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Should Coach Bronco Mendenhall Be Fired Poll

by Mars · 12/3/2012

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BYUgeezer
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I Think he is doing a great job and by the size of the vote in his favor I think it shows that the vocal minority is just that. A minority. Bronco is the right man. He is not a winning machine but who is?
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Mars
cornhole153 wrote:
10 win seasons aren't acceptable to BYU fans, or Bronco wouldn't have a hot seat.
So by your own definition, Bronco has not had a positive year yet.

BYU won 11 games in 2009, 2007, and 2006.
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Cougarbib
Mars wrote:
hawkwing wrote:
10 win seasons aren't acceptable to BYU fans, or Bronco wouldn't have a hot seat.
So by your own definition, Bronco has not had a positive year yet.

BYU won 11 games in 2009, 2007, and 2006.




11 has not been acceptable to AirWolfe, Cornhole, Bubble Bath, and the other reincarnations either. If I can just think of the 4th reincarnation, we will know where all 4 yes votes came from. But HOLE I mean The Holster, has a point, the highly vocal minority would have not been satisfied with anything less than Winning The Mythical NC.



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mormonrasta
No losing seasons. No NCAA sanctions. Winning 70% of games. Keep him.
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Gucci33
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.



I tried to vote yes and it won't count my vote.
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Guest
Gucci33 wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.


I suggest you find a new team to root for, because football will never be first at BYU.
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Gucci33
hawkwing wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.


I suggest you find a new team to root for, because football will never be first at BYU.


I pray your wrong it was with Lavell and I hope it will be again soon.....
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Guest
Gucci33 wrote:
Gucci33 wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.


I suggest you find a new team to root for, because football will never be first at BYU.


I pray your wrong it was with Lavell and I hope it will be again soon.....


It wasn't first with LaVell, but it was with Crowton, which is why he was fired and why it's spelled out to the coaching staff when they interview exactly where football is on the priorities.
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Cougarbib
Gucci33 wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.



I tried to vote yes and it won't count my vote.


Starting to see a pattern here. AirWolfe84, Gucci33, Cornhole153 or whatever it was, I don't recall if BubbleBathman had a number back there.



I am sure glad Hawk truncated the 2 off the back of mine for me. Maybe the high digit extensions might be the first indication that a poster is going to be a Bronco Hater.



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Gucci33
Cougarbib wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.



I tried to vote yes and it won't count my vote.


Starting to see a pattern here. AirWolfe84, Gucci33, Cornhole153 or whatever it was, I don't recall if BubbleBathman had a number back there.



I am sure glad Hawk truncated the 2 off the back of mine for me. Maybe the high digit extensions might be the first indication that a poster is going to be a Bronco Hater.



I don't know who those people are or who you are.



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Cougs_Rule
Cougarbib wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.



I tried to vote yes and it won't count my vote.


Starting to see a pattern here. AirWolfe84, Gucci33, Cornhole153 or whatever it was, I don't recall if BubbleBathman had a number back there.



I am sure glad Hawk truncated the 2 off the back of mine for me. Maybe the high digit extensions might be the first indication that a poster is going to be a Bronco Hater.



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How can you be a Riley lover and Bronco hater, Bib? Isn't that incongruent?
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Cougarfan87
Cougs_Rule wrote:
Gucci33 wrote:
Yes it's time to move on. We need someone who puts football first of which Bronco has said he does not.



I tried to vote yes and it won't count my vote.


Starting to see a pattern here. AirWolfe84, Gucci33, Cornhole153 or whatever it was, I don't recall if BubbleBathman had a number back there.



I am sure glad Hawk truncated the 2 off the back of mine for me. Maybe the high digit extensions might be the first indication that a poster is going to be a Bronco Hater.



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How can you be a Riley lover and Bronco hater, Bib? Isn't that incongruent?

Not in a love triangle. :love: :love: ;)
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Brayden Green
Schmoe wrote:


Odds:



40% chance he leaves BYU after 2013.

30% chance he extends for one year, then reties after 2014.

20% chance he extends for 3 years, retiring after 2016.


Leaving 10% for the unknown and unforeseeable (natural disasters, random falling space junk, etc.)?


I think the 10 percent was for the mayan apocalypse, in case the world ends...
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jacksonman
I want bronco around one more year and then reevaluated. I think he should be told as much.



Those of us who are frustrated with bronco are citing the following:



1. Regardless of final record and rankings, it feels like we should have been better. We lost games we probably shouldn't have. We underperformed in our biggest games. We have been emberassed several times, including at home. Our teams have seemed underprepared for big games. We seem to get out coached in most games. We seem to fail to make adjustments. Team doesn't live up to hype started by the coaches. I would rather go 9 and 3 with some close loses and wins against good teams than 11 and 1 with a boring schedule.



2. Our coaches seemed to have plateaued and momentum stalled and going backwards. Brinco seemed to be at Lear moving in the right direction 4 years ago. We gave him a pass for 2010 considering it a rebuilding year. Two rebuilding years later (tic since this was a senior laden team) and it really seems like broncos coaching, decisions and overall direction his taking the team is digressing.



3. We have lost our status as big brother in the state and can feel step brother rising up right behind us. Arguably, this is just as important as overall record at the end of the year. Being #1 on state, especially if dominate, would alone keep bronco off hot seat.



4. Byu football has become boring. The games just aren't much fun to watch any more even though I have been more invested the last few years than ever before. Our bend but don't break defense is pretty efficient against poor to average defenses and usually helpless against good offenses. But it is boring! Our offense hasn't had any real flash for three years. I actually get bored watching our games am have never heard les so consistently quiet before. It just isn't as fun and exciting as it used to be and should be.



5 he doesn't like us or think highly of us and it shows.



6 his lack of emotion most of the time, especially for the offense, most of us don't like or can't relate to.



Give him one year to deliver on his promises, learn from his mistakes and show real improvement. If not, time to move on.



And please, let's stop comparing him to lavell. Lavell was a good coach and took byu from crap to pretty good. We need a coach who can take us from pretty good to nationally competitive. With all the top notch lds athletes coming around, many if which going to other programs, including the u, you can't tell me the talent isn't out there for byu to be a consistent 10 and 2 r 9 an 3 program with a big 12 schedule with the occasional 5 or 6 lose rebuilding seasons and 0 or 1 lose magic seasons. So far we have no magic seasons and 3 straight rebuilding seasons. That rightly puts a coach on the hot seat!



Forgive typos please!



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Gucci33
jacksonman wrote:
I want bronco around one more year and then reevaluated. I think he should be told as much.



Those of us who are frustrated with bronco are citing the following:



1. Regardless of final record and rankings, it feels like we should have been better. We lost games we probably shouldn't have. We underperformed in our biggest games. We have been emberassed several times, including at home. Our teams have seemed underprepared for big games. We seem to get out coached in most games. We seem to fail to make adjustments. Team doesn't live up to hype started by the coaches. I would rather go 9 and 3 with some close loses and wins against good teams than 11 and 1 with a boring schedule.



2. Our coaches seemed to have plateaued and momentum stalled and going backwards. Brinco seemed to be at Lear moving in the right direction 4 years ago. We gave him a pass for 2010 considering it a rebuilding year. Two rebuilding years later (tic since this was a senior laden team) and it really seems like broncos coaching, decisions and overall direction his taking the team is digressing.



3. We have lost our status as big brother in the state and can feel step brother rising up right behind us. Arguably, this is just as important as overall record at the end of the year. Being #1 on state, especially if dominate, would alone keep bronco off hot seat.



4. Byu football has become boring. The games just aren't much fun to watch any more even though I have been more invested the last few years than ever before. Our bend but don't break defense is pretty efficient against poor to average defenses and usually helpless against good offenses. But it is boring! Our offense hasn't had any real flash for three years. I actually get bored watching our games am have never heard les so consistently quiet before. It just isn't as fun and exciting as it used to be and should be.



5 he doesn't like us or think highly of us and it shows.



6 his lack of emotion most of the time, especially for the offense, most of us don't like or can't relate to.



Give him one year to deliver on his promises, learn from his mistakes and show real improvement. If not, time to move on.



And please, let's stop comparing him to lavell. Lavell was a good coach and took byu from crap to pretty good. We need a coach who can take us from pretty good to nationally competitive. With all the top notch lds athletes coming around, many if which going to other programs, including the u, you can't tell me the talent isn't out there for byu to be a consistent 10 and 2 r 9 an 3 program with a big 12 schedule with the occasional 5 or 6 lose rebuilding seasons and 0 or 1 lose magic seasons. So far we have no magic seasons and 3 straight rebuilding seasons. That rightly puts a coach on the hot seat!



Forgive typos please!



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couldn't have said it better



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Cougarbib
Gucci33 wrote:
I want bronco around one more year and then reevaluated. I think he should be told as much.



Those of us who are frustrated with bronco are citing the following:



1. Regardless of final record and rankings, it feels like we should have been better. We lost games we probably shouldn't have. We underperformed in our biggest games. We have been emberassed several times, including at home. Our teams have seemed underprepared for big games. We seem to get out coached in most games. We seem to fail to make adjustments. Team doesn't live up to hype started by the coaches. I would rather go 9 and 3 with some close loses and wins against good teams than 11 and 1 with a boring schedule.



2. Our coaches seemed to have plateaued and momentum stalled and going backwards. Brinco seemed to be at Lear moving in the right direction 4 years ago. We gave him a pass for 2010 considering it a rebuilding year. Two rebuilding years later (tic since this was a senior laden team) and it really seems like broncos coaching, decisions and overall direction his taking the team is digressing.



3. We have lost our status as big brother in the state and can feel step brother rising up right behind us. Arguably, this is just as important as overall record at the end of the year. Being #1 on state, especially if dominate, would alone keep bronco off hot seat.



4. Byu football has become boring. The games just aren't much fun to watch any more even though I have been more invested the last few years than ever before. Our bend but don't break defense is pretty efficient against poor to average defenses and usually helpless against good offenses. But it is boring! Our offense hasn't had any real flash for three years. I actually get bored watching our games am have never heard les so consistently quiet before. It just isn't as fun and exciting as it used to be and should be.



5 he doesn't like us or think highly of us and it shows.



6 his lack of emotion most of the time, especially for the offense, most of us don't like or can't relate to.



Give him one year to deliver on his promises, learn from his mistakes and show real improvement. If not, time to move on.



And please, let's stop comparing him to lavell. Lavell was a good coach and took byu from crap to pretty good. We need a coach who can take us from pretty good to nationally competitive. With all the top notch lds athletes coming around, many if which going to other programs, including the u, you can't tell me the talent isn't out there for byu to be a consistent 10 and 2 r 9 an 3 program with a big 12 schedule with the occasional 5 or 6 lose rebuilding seasons and 0 or 1 lose magic seasons. So far we have no magic seasons and 3 straight rebuilding seasons. That rightly puts a coach on the hot seat!



Forgive typos please!



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couldn't have said it better



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Well now if AirWolfe84 and Cornhole153 chime in we can call it a day and go have a BubbleBath.



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TulaneVandyRiceCoug
Maybe my standards have been influenced by the other teams I follow, but seriously, any coach who has a winning percentage like Bronco's, and who has led to as many bowls and bowl wins, is a coach that deserves to keep their job.

-TVRC
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cornhole153
Cougarbib wrote:
jacksonman wrote:
I want bronco around one more year and then reevaluated. I think he should be told as much.



Those of us who are frustrated with bronco are citing the following:



1. Regardless of final record and rankings, it feels like we should have been better. We lost games we probably shouldn't have. We underperformed in our biggest games. We have been emberassed several times, including at home. Our teams have seemed underprepared for big games. We seem to get out coached in most games. We seem to fail to make adjustments. Team doesn't live up to hype started by the coaches. I would rather go 9 and 3 with some close loses and wins against good teams than 11 and 1 with a boring schedule.



2. Our coaches seemed to have plateaued and momentum stalled and going backwards. Brinco seemed to be at Lear moving in the right direction 4 years ago. We gave him a pass for 2010 considering it a rebuilding year. Two rebuilding years later (tic since this was a senior laden team) and it really seems like broncos coaching, decisions and overall direction his taking the team is digressing.



3. We have lost our status as big brother in the state and can feel step brother rising up right behind us. Arguably, this is just as important as overall record at the end of the year. Being #1 on state, especially if dominate, would alone keep bronco off hot seat.



4. Byu football has become boring. The games just aren't much fun to watch any more even though I have been more invested the last few years than ever before. Our bend but don't break defense is pretty efficient against poor to average defenses and usually helpless against good offenses. But it is boring! Our offense hasn't had any real flash for three years. I actually get bored watching our games am have never heard les so consistently quiet before. It just isn't as fun and exciting as it used to be and should be.



5 he doesn't like us or think highly of us and it shows.



6 his lack of emotion most of the time, especially for the offense, most of us don't like or can't relate to.



Give him one year to deliver on his promises, learn from his mistakes and show real improvement. If not, time to move on.



And please, let's stop comparing him to lavell. Lavell was a good coach and took byu from crap to pretty good. We need a coach who can take us from pretty good to nationally competitive. With all the top notch lds athletes coming around, many if which going to other programs, including the u, you can't tell me the talent isn't out there for byu to be a consistent 10 and 2 r 9 an 3 program with a big 12 schedule with the occasional 5 or 6 lose rebuilding seasons and 0 or 1 lose magic seasons. So far we have no magic seasons and 3 straight rebuilding seasons. That rightly puts a coach on the hot seat!



Forgive typos please!



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couldn't have said it better



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Well now if AirWolfe84 and Cornhole153 chime in we can call it a day and go have a BubbleBath.



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Well, since you asked... I'd add that he seems to be a poor judge of talent (see Lark, Ziggy, Manti) and his teams tend to implode if they start getting any national hype (see FL St 2009 & TCU 2008).



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Schmoe
Lark has played one good game vs. the worst team in the nation, Ziggy wasn't ready at the beginning of this season, and Manti apparently didn't want to be in a strict LDS environment.
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byucougar1
The tweak that is needed is for the offense to reach the same level of intensity as the defense. BYU had a top 10 defense this year. With exception of OSU debacle, we lost games from 1-7 points and should have won several. Besides UT, our losses have been against ranked teams. With exception of OSU, our losses to ranked teams have been on the road. We fix the turnover problem, get a good OL, and a multi-purpose QB with pin point accuracy, and we are a top 15 team. I believe a lot was learned this year by Bronco, Holmoe and Doman. Weaknesses will be exposed against good teams - we now know our weaknesses and will set out to correct them in offseason.



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