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by Jarhead · 10/13/2017

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Jarhead
Ty Detmer has reiterated that Mangum is going to be the starter this weekend. However, he has strongly indicated that if Mangum underperforms, we will see Critchlow.



How long do you think the leash on Mangum will be? How many consecutive bad series gets him pulled?



Last week I thought they should have pulled the trigger at halftime. This week, I will be really upset if Mangum continues with his current performance and sees any second half action.
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Guest
I imagine Mangum will get the first half and Critchlow will get the second half.
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Cougs_Rule
Doing the same thing over and over again equals the definition of denial and insanity.

They should keep Tanner on the bench with a plausible excuse that his ankle just is not better. And only bring him in in the second half if Critchlow is totally looking bad.

Instead, if they start Tanner and then pull him, it will devastate him and he very likely will have gone from a supposed potential early departure for the draft to a total bomb out in less than seven games. What a football tragedy.
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BroncoBot
Cougs_Rule wrote:

They should keep Tanner on the bench with a plausible excuse that his ankle just is not better.


And this would have been 100% true for BSU. Also would have given the fans and coaches a chance to see Critchlow in action for an entire game. If he plays great, keep him rolling. If he stinks it up, like I think he would have, Mangum gets another roll with the dice.
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Mars
So if Hoge and Mangum are hurt, and if Crichlow stinks, should coaches pull the redshirt from Wilstead?
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SpiffCoug
I would give Mangum four drives.
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Jarhead
SpiffCoug wrote:

I would give Mangum four drives.


That sounds about right to me.
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byufan4ever
Let Mangum play as much as possible this game then start Critchlow the rest of the season. It's not fair to throw Critchlow at an SEC defense for his first start when he's barely even been getting first team reps in practice. But he clearly needs A LOT of playing time this season. I just have a feeling that whoever is the QB is going to get eaten alive.
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vancouvercougar
byufan4ever wrote:

Let Mangum play as much as possible this game then start Critchlow the rest of the season. It's not fair to throw Critchlow at an SEC defense for his first start when he's barely even been getting first team reps in practice. But he clearly needs A LOT of playing time this season. I just have a feeling that whoever is the QB is going to get eaten alive.


As much as I want to see Critchlow, I agree with you.
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Cougs_Rule
byufan4ever wrote:

Let Mangum play as much as possible this game then start Critchlow the rest of the season. It's not fair to throw Critchlow at an SEC defense for his first start when he's barely even been getting first team reps in practice. But he clearly needs A LOT of playing time this season. I just have a feeling that whoever is the QB is going to get eaten alive.


Such a good point, I may abandon my criticism of going back to Tanner one more time.

Scuttle the boat on the veterans efforts. Well, maybe that's too dire. How about, Let the ship submerge, sink or float on Tanners time. Let Tanner get gobsmacked and reinjured so that the rook can save the day another day or at least not get blamed for a most certain loss.
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Keep in mind that Critchlow got upwards of 90% of the first team snaps in the week of practice leading up to Boise State and the coaches thought after that that Mangum at 60% was the best chance to win.



I wouldn't pin too many hopes on Critchlow until he proves he can get a first down.
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vancouvercougar
hawkwing wrote:

Keep in mind that Critchlow got upwards of 90% of the first team snaps in the week of practice leading up to Boise State and the coaches thought after that that Mangum at 60% was the best chance to win.



I wouldn't pin too many hopes on Critchlow until he proves he can get a first down.


It's true that Critchlow hasn't even made a first down. He may be good, but it will take time.

With Tanner, he looked good early on against BSU. Something like 7 for 8 passing. Then the wheels came off the bus. Some of that was his injury, but some was poor judgment.
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Mars
Crichlow was a 2-star recruit. Great size though.
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Cougs_Rule
He got a lot of early attention in high school. But his strong and vocal commitment to serve a mission caused many schools to lose interest.
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cougarnerd
Cougs_Rule wrote:

Doing the same thing over and over again equals the definition of denial and insanity.

They should keep Tanner on the bench with a plausible excuse that his ankle just is not better. And only bring him in in the second half if Critchlow is totally looking bad.

Instead, if they start Tanner and then pull him, it will devastate him and he very likely will have gone from a supposed potential early departure for the draft to a total bomb out in less than seven games. What a football tragedy.


Two things. "Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, equals the definition of insanity." But close enough.



Also, if Tanner starts okay, then his ankle gives him problems and his performance drops because he's 70% rather than making bad reads/judgement calls, then maybe if we pull him and let him rest and heal, he can come back without losing the rest of his confidence.
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Cougs_Rule
cougarnerd wrote:


Doing the same thing over and over again equals the definition of denial and insanity.

They should keep Tanner on the bench with a plausible excuse that his ankle just is not better. And only bring him in in the second half if Critchlow is totally looking bad.

Instead, if they start Tanner and then pull him, it will devastate him and he very likely will have gone from a supposed potential early departure for the draft to a total bomb out in less than seven games. What a football tragedy.


Two things. "Doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result, equals the definition of insanity." But close enough.



Way to live up to your nerd[iness]. Of course you are right. Sort of. You forgot to mention that I didn't have quotes or brackets. :-)
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Mars
Tanner's leash reported to be "not short, but definitely not long either".
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SpiffCoug
Mars wrote:

Tanner's leash reported to be "not short, but definitely not long either".


Turns out there really wasn't a leash. Tanner is BYU's QB this year and will see the vast, vast, vast majority of snaps the rest of the way. Critchlow might get to manage the final 3-and-out each game the rest of the way. So that should portend well for the future.
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Woody3715
So far, BYU has blown Critchlow's redshirt for 2 minutes of playing time at the end of a blowout. If Mangum is the QB for the rest of the season, what was the purpose of that? Sure he needed to take a lot of snaps in practice in the event he had to play in a game, but playing the 2 minutes was meaningless.
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a1247
When healthy I think they have got to go back to Beau Hoge. Critchlow is not the answer unless your throwing the rest of the season away to develope him as the starter for next year. But the same can be said for Beau. Give him this year so he can run the team for the next 2 years. Tanner thanks for the great season 2 years ago, get your degree and become successful with you education because the football part looks to be over.
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