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Taysom Hill home from mission

by EM_Puma · 12/14/2011

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Dcr36
jonnylingo wrote:

SenorCougar, i owe you an apology regarding the Heaps transfer. You obviously had a good source. Sorry for calling you "troll like". :)


I'll forgive you for that, too.



I'm still not anywhere CLOSE to forgiving you for those "Mangum should go to Boise State" comments, though. ;)
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SpiffCoug
Dcr36 wrote:
Munns will be the second casualty in the death of the drop-back quarterback saga during BD's reign. Not that I'm complaining. BUt THill with one-year as redshirt and running the scout team next year will be fully prepped and ready and MOBILE.

Excuse me, not "the death" but the "suspension", the "not-an-ideal-fit" during BD's reign.

On a positive note, i did see an interview of Tanner Mangum by KSL's Zippy (his actual name escapes me this morning). Mangum is "definitely" going to sign at BYU in Feb. The whole Jake Heaps thing has not dissuaded him at all. WHich is great. He called the Elite 11 and other things all HYPE anyway. If i was smart enough I could find and attached the clip.


It needs to be said - Brandon Doman's last three games HAVE been drop-back QB games. Heaps against ID and NMSU was, by default, a drop back passing game. Nelson's mobility against Hawaii appeared to be limited, and he used it mostly for being elusive in the pocket.



Munns may be a immobile dude, but he's a big dude, which means he should be able to develop his own methods of dealing with pocket pressure, extending plays, etc. And if you're still not sold on Brandon Doman's playcalling abilities for a traditional QB, keep in mind he'll be in his third season by then.

^^^This.



There is a feeling around Cougar Nation, that Doman only wants mobile QBs and doesn't know how to call plays for a traditional drop back passer. This is simply false.



Doman probably does enjoy having a QB who can make plays with his legs - what OC wouldn't enjoy having additional options and weapons at their disposal? But what he, like every other OC wants/needs is an accurate and efficient QB.



If you don't have an efficient and accurate QB, it doesn't matter how good of a runner that QB is, they're not going to be successful. Doman likes QBs who are play makers, but mostly like guys who consistently move the chains and score points. QBs who aren't accurate or efficient do neither.
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jonnylingo
SpiffCoug wrote:
dmcougar wrote:
Munns will be the second casualty in the death of the drop-back quarterback saga during BD's reign. Not that I'm complaining. BUt THill with one-year as redshirt and running the scout team next year will be fully prepped and ready and MOBILE.

Excuse me, not "the death" but the "suspension", the "not-an-ideal-fit" during BD's reign.

On a positive note, i did see an interview of Tanner Mangum by KSL's Zippy (his actual name escapes me this morning). Mangum is "definitely" going to sign at BYU in Feb. The whole Jake Heaps thing has not dissuaded him at all. WHich is great. He called the Elite 11 and other things all HYPE anyway. If i was smart enough I could find and attached the clip.


It needs to be said - Brandon Doman's last three games HAVE been drop-back QB games. Heaps against ID and NMSU was, by default, a drop back passing game. Nelson's mobility against Hawaii appeared to be limited, and he used it mostly for being elusive in the pocket.



Munns may be a immobile dude, but he's a big dude, which means he should be able to develop his own methods of dealing with pocket pressure, extending plays, etc. And if you're still not sold on Brandon Doman's playcalling abilities for a traditional QB, keep in mind he'll be in his third season by then.

^^^This.



There is a feeling around Cougar Nation, that Doman only wants mobile QBs and doesn't know how to call plays for a traditional drop back passer. This is simply false.



Doman probably does enjoy having a QB who can make plays with his legs - what OC wouldn't enjoy having additional options and weapons at their disposal? But what he, like every other OC wants/needs is an accurate and efficient QB.



If you don't have an efficient and accurate QB, it doesn't matter how good of a runner that QB is, they're not going to be successful. Doman likes QBs who are play makers, but mostly like guys who consistently move the chains and score points. QBs who aren't accurate or efficient do neither.


I think this is largely gurney's fault. he has made a big deal of it.
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SpiffCoug
Yeah, I've seen Jay Drew mention this as well. This is a media creation, that I don't think accurately portrays Doman's feelings/thoughts on what makes a good QB.
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Lawboy
If you read Bronco's comments in the DNews on how he prefers to handle QBs, he said redshirt, sit a year and watch, then play as RS Soph. We all assume that Taysom Hill will get the job in 2013, but he won't per Bronco's latest criteria. That leaves the job open for an experienced QB in 2013--Munns. I can not think of any other QB who would qualify.



2013 will be interesting in that respect.
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frdbtr
Lawboy wrote:
If you read Bronco's comments in the DNews on how he prefers to handle QBs, he said redshirt, sit a year and watch, then play as RS Soph. We all assume that Taysom Hill will get the job in 2013, but he won't per Bronco's latest criteria. That leaves the job open for an experienced QB in 2013--Munns. I can not think of any other QB who would qualify.



2013 will be interesting in that respect.


I don't think that anything is set in stone no matter what Bronco says. If Taysom hill comes out in 2013 and looks better the Munns in every way, he will get the start. I do think that if they are tied, Munns will get the initial nod though due to experience. I guess we will have to see.
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jonnylingo
frdbtr wrote:
If you read Bronco's comments in the DNews on how he prefers to handle QBs, he said redshirt, sit a year and watch, then play as RS Soph. We all assume that Taysom Hill will get the job in 2013, but he won't per Bronco's latest criteria. That leaves the job open for an experienced QB in 2013--Munns. I can not think of any other QB who would qualify.



2013 will be interesting in that respect.


I don't think that anything is set in stone no matter what Bronco says. If Taysom hill comes out in 2013 and looks better the Munns in every way, he will get the start. I do think that if they are tied, Munns will get the initial nod though due to experience. I guess we will have to see.


What is means is that Munns just got serious about upping his game.
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beauso79
Lawboy wrote:
If you read Bronco's comments in the DNews on how he prefers to handle QBs, he said redshirt, sit a year and watch, then play as RS Soph. We all assume that Taysom Hill will get the job in 2013, but he won't per Bronco's latest criteria. That leaves the job open for an experienced QB in 2013--Munns. I can not think of any other QB who would qualify.



2013 will be interesting in that respect.


Breaking in a new QB and given our schedule in 2013 it could be pretty ugly. If they're smart they'll give Munns the back-up reps next year instead of Lark being that both Lark and Nelson are Seniors. Otherwise Munns will come in with virtually no game experience and our schedule would eat him alive
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