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Wow... PAC-12 struggles

by Ungoy · 9/4/2011

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Ungoy
It really seemed like PAC-12 teams struggled with lower division teams. Utah's poor performance against Montana St. aside, here's how a few other PAC 10.2 teams fared against their FCS opponents.



Sacramento St. 29

Oregon St. 28



Washington 30

Eastern Washington 27



Doesn't look good. Pac 10.2 outside of Stanford looking a little vulnerable.
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Schmoe
Someone tweeted yesterday about some of the glitter being gone from the PAC-12 after yesterday. I had to ask myself: when was there any shine to the PAC?
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Ungoy
Schmoe wrote:
Someone tweeted yesterday about some of the glitter being gone from the PAC-12 after yesterday. I had to ask myself: when was there any shine to the PAC?




Seriously, no matter how hard people try, you still can't polish a turd.
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imuakahuku
USC 19 Minn. 17

Ore 27 (late TD) LSU 40

UCLA 34 Houston 38

Colorado 17 Hawaii 34
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urroner
Ungoy wrote:
Someone tweeted yesterday about some of the glitter being gone from the PAC-12 after yesterday. I had to ask myself: when was there any shine to the PAC?




Seriously, no matter how hard people try, you still can't polish a turd.


You can if it's coprolite (dinosaur meadow muffin).



The monster loaf below is thought to have been pinched by a Tyrannosaurus Rex some 65 million years ago. Discovered in 1995 by Wendy Sloboda of the Royal Saskatchewan Museum, the dino dropping measures 17.6 by 6.4 by 5.2 inches (44 x 16 x 13 cm) and weighs over 15.5 pounds (7 kg).



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vancouvercougar
With a performance like that, you can understand why the PAC wants Oklahoma & Texas etc.
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Dcr36
I wish the hypothetical superconference realignment was based more on merit rather than $$$, TV contracts and perception. The bottom of the Pac-12 can get pretty bad, which doesn't speak well when parity of quality between teams is your selling point. The ACC is worse.



Then again, that's probably because of my investment in a preserved Big 12, which began all of 10 days ago.
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Cougs_Rule
This brings convincing evidences to the Pac-o-Crap conference label.



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Cougarbib
imuakahuku wrote:
USC 19 Minn. 17

Ore 27 (late TD) LSU 40

UCLA 34 Houston 38

Colorado 17 Hawaii 34

Let me give a shot with the turd polish. I have long stated how foolish the PAC is regarding scheduling OOC games. The Big 12 and SEC are the smartest. Auburn stinks it up and wins anyway - at home of course Vs a WAC team projected to finish 5th. USU is better than projected, but I can only imagine how happy Auburn was to not be playing Oregon in Corvallis. But they couldn't, because foolish Oregon was playing at LSU in a game neither should have played the way the BCS works. But LSU was at home and it all worked out. Georgia was foolish to play BSU and the Donkeys were more foolish to play at Georgia. Now if the Donkeys go undefeated and do nit get screwed out of the NC game - I guess I may have to admit the gamble paid off.



Back to the PAC. USC survived a gamble it did not need to take. ND, who makes the same scheduling mistakes as the PAC should have played Indiana State.



UW lucked out - but that is a good FCS team. Luckily they were not at Nebraska like they have done in the past.



OSU - ouch. They have no excuse. They should have played Idaho State, though. Maybe that would have made a 2 or 3 point difference.



Utah must be glad they were not at ND, Iowa State, or Pitt this year.



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Cougarbib
And Colorado playing a sucker game at Hawaii like BYU will do later. And UCLA should have invited N. Arizona or SJ State to the Rose Bowl. Anyone notice how SDSU's national reputation picked up when they quit rolling over for UCLA and USC annually.



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Mr Bib, sir, you did know that Eugene is home to the O Ducks, not Corvalis, right? How would you "account" for that error?

Oh wait, am I "missing the point"?



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Dcr36
Cougarbib2 wrote:
USC 19 Minn. 17

Ore 27 (late TD) LSU 40

UCLA 34 Houston 38

Colorado 17 Hawaii 34

Let me give a shot with the turd polish. I have long stated how foolish the PAC is regarding scheduling OOC games. The Big 12 and SEC are the smartest. Auburn stinks it up and wins anyway - at home of course Vs a WAC team projected to finish 5th. USU is better than projected, but I can only imagine how happy Auburn was to not be playing Oregon in Corvallis. But they couldn't, because foolish Oregon was playing at LSU in a game neither should have played the way the BCS works. But LSU was at home and it all worked out. Georgia was foolish to play BSU and the Donkeys were more foolish to play at Georgia. Now if the Donkeys go undefeated and do nit get screwed out of the NC game - I guess I may have to admit the gamble paid off.



Back to the PAC. USC survived a gamble it did not need to take. ND, who makes the same scheduling mistakes as the PAC should have played Indiana State.



UW lucked out - but that is a good FCS team. Luckily they were not at Nebraska like they have done in the past.



OSU - ouch. They have no excuse. They should have played Idaho State, though. Maybe that would have made a 2 or 3 point difference.



Utah must be glad they were not at ND, Iowa State, or Pitt this year.



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I think we're starting to create a false impression here with regards to how BCS teams create their non-conference schedules. With a few outliers, most teams will schedule a decent match-up, one or two WAC/MWC/Conf-USA games, and then a FCS/Mac/SunBelt softball. I'll grant you that about half of the SEC teams go the "two-FCS, two-SunBelt" route, but even just yesterday, the SEC played BYU, Boise State, Oregon and a decent-looking ECU team yesterday. Teams like Florida and South Carolina are the big offenders. LSU is daredevil-like in some of the OOC games they schedule.



The Big-12 played TCU this week. Just checking, in the coming weeks:

-Mizzou is playing a supposed-to-be-good-this-year Arizona State

-Kansas is playing NIU and Georgia Tech

-K-State playing Miami

-Oklahoma is playing Florida St. (and you're right, in my opinion that's stupid)

-OK State playing our ol' buddy Robert Anae in Arizona

-A&M playing Arkansas

-Texas plays us & UCLA



Pretty much every team has one good match-up.



Pac-12 is pretty similar:

Oregon played LSU, but now has an FCS team and a depleted Nevada to look foward to

Cal played Fresno (pretty good), now plays Presbyterian

Colorado fits your stereotype: Hawaii and Ohio State. However, they do play CSU.

Stanford: SJSU (gimme), Duke (easy), ND

WSU - ISU, UNLV, SDSU (if SDSU is your highlight, that's pretty easy)

OSU fits as well: Wisconsin and BYU

AZ has the aforementioned OK State game, but also UL-L and N. Arizona

ASU has the aforementioned Mizzou game, but also UC Davis and the Zook version of Illinois



I don't see a huge difference between the Pac-12 and the Big-12. Basically, unless you're Florida or Tennessee, you're gonna have at least one challenge early in the year. Whether or not the risk is worth it is another debate.
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Cougarbib
dmcougar wrote:
Mr Bib, sir, you did know that Eugene is home to the O Ducks, not Corvalis, right? How would you "account" for that error?

Oh wait, am I "missing the point"?



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Just think of Eugene as an un- neutral neutral site game and you can still make it work for you. But in all honesty, my bad.



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snoscythe
Give Eastern Washington credit. Washington is a worthy opponent because of everything they did nearly 20 years ago.
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BroncoBot
snoscythe wrote:
Give Eastern Washington credit. Washington is a worthy opponent because of everything they did nearly 20 years ago.

Washington??? HA. good one.... (here we go again) ;)
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BYULV
dmcougar wrote:
Mr Bib, sir, you did know that Eugene is home to the O Ducks, not Corvalis, right? How would you "account" for that error?

Oh wait, am I "missing the point"?



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And I believe the LSU-Oregon game was played at Cowboys Stadium, no at LSU.



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