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BYU and the multi-uniform craze.

by DarthMagnus · 8/31/2011

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DarthMagnus
Following Oregon's lead, schools across the country are embracing multiple uniforms and edgier designs (see http://goo.gl/Y4Hc0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).



So, how many of you like this trend that appears to be starting? Would you like to see BYU embrace something similar? Not that it matters, but Utah will be wearing a topographical map of SLC on their pants (see link above).



I, for one, really like the variety and wish BYU would embrace it. We've tried the throwback uniforms and I think they were a big hit, but I'd love to see BYU rotate between 4 or 5 different uniforms and helmets throughout the season. Some new, some throwback (remember the crazy orange jerseys--oh yeah baby!) There are those that would say that is is distracting and ostentatious, and they would probably be right at some level, but I still think it would be fun to watch.



I think BYU would see a major boost in merchandise revenue as well, as long as they made the designs available in retail. I can only speak for myself, but I would be much more willing to buy jerseys etc. if they were a bit more unique, edgy or memorable.



Probably not going to happen. Too controversial and not consistent with the whole "brand recognition" philosophy that BYU seems to be promoting during independence. But as it is gaining popularity, especially among upper echelon programs, maybe BYU should jump on board.
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CAFB_04-12
maybe it's just me, but I prefer the white jersey with blue pants away and blue jersey with white pants at home. The last time I liked blue on blue and white on white was the 2000 jerseys (think Staley and Doman).



Not a fan of all whites at FSU last year.
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redneckjedi
Tradition, Spirit, Honor. It's the first one, dude. Teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Penn State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Alabama haven't changed their look, and won't even though they might be considered old or boring. It's their brand. You see them on the field, and you know exactly who they are. There's a sense of history, because of all the players that have gone before, all the things they have achieved. BYU has that same identity. We revolutionized college football, rewrote the record books, have All-American quarterbacks and a Heisman trophy, and won a national championship. We had one of the most iconic coaches of college football.



Would you like to throw away that connection for an ephemeral promise of more money and an "edgier" look? "Edgier" is pretty much the antithesis of BYU. That's not who we are, and it's not who we want to be. And I guaran-dang-tee you that I and a lot of other like-minded people will actually stop buying merchandise if it goes this route.



The thing is, we already tried this once. It was a miserable failure, and entirely coincidentally occurred at one of the low points for our athletic programs as well. You don't want to dredge up those memories with a similar experiment.



I think this is gaining ground in the programs that don't have enough of a following to stand on their own. Schools that do don't need to follow Oregon and its lemming friends over the neon Nike cliff, and all the examples I mentioned above as well as some others aren't.
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redneckjedi
I should also add that the "surrender whites" look has not been good for us lately or historically. Bad, bad memories...
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loonmj
I like that some teams mix it up and some are more traditional. I'm also glad that BYU is in the traditional group. I prefer blue jerseys/white pants at home, and white jerseys/blue pants away, with an all blue exception for the Utah game. The only thing I would change about BYU's uni is a return to royal blue.
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SpiffCoug
Notre Dame has their loser green jersey's too.
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CAFB_04-12
loonmj wrote:
I like that some teams mix it up and some are more traditional. I'm also glad that BYU is in the traditional group. I prefer blue jerseys/white pants at home, and white jerseys/blue pants away, with an all blue exception for the Utah game. The only thing I would change about BYU's uni is a return to royal blue.

I like the royal blues for exceptional games...like a top 10 matchup with Utah, or something similarly exciting. I wouldn't trot them out for just any game. Unless the entire university goes back to royal blue (not likely) I'd prefer the football team to use the current uniforms.
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TRADITION.



I thought the uniforms from 1999-2004 were a distraction that were partially responsible for BYU losing focus on what had made BYU great.



The more BYU tries to fit in with trends the worse off we are.
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loonmj
CAFB_04-12 wrote:
I like that some teams mix it up and some are more traditional. I'm also glad that BYU is in the traditional group. I prefer blue jerseys/white pants at home, and white jerseys/blue pants away, with an all blue exception for the Utah game. The only thing I would change about BYU's uni is a return to royal blue.

I like the royal blues for exceptional games...like a top 10 matchup with Utah, or something similarly exciting. I wouldn't trot them out for just any game. Unless the entire university goes back to royal blue (not likely) I'd prefer the football team to use the current uniforms.


I agree that it would have to be a school-wide thing, not just football.
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stuckinbig10country
The only positive reason for making this change is that recruits love the changing uniforms. Shocking, I know, but kids like new and crazy ideas. None of us would know what that's like.
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Mingjai
redneckjedi wrote:
Tradition, Spirit, Honor. It's the first one, dude. Teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Penn State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Alabama haven't changed their look, and won't even though they might be considered old or boring.


Actually, of the schools you've mentioned, Texas, OU, and Alabama have all worn or will wear one-off Pro Combat uniforms (like TCU, Florida, VTech). Notre Dame revises their uniforms periodically and even Penn State has a different jersey design this year...



I like BYU's current set, except I'd prefer not to see them wear blue on blue, because it doesn't look good with a white helmet. White on white looks good--very clean and classic. Works for Texas, Auburn, Penn State, and I like it for BYU. Coach Mendenhall should develop a set of rules on when the combinations will be worn, so it doesn't become too much of a distraction--e.g., blue-white at home, white-white on road in September, white-blue on road otherwise, royal blue-white against Utah.



One thing I'd also like to BYU do is old school striped socks. Their traditional look fits very well with striped socks:



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Wickchad
Didn't we agree to have both BYU and Utah wear home uniforms when we play? I seem to remember that Utah will be wearing red uniforms when we play kind of like USC and UCLA have started to do.
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Mingjai
Wickchad84087 wrote:
Didn't we agree to have both BYU and Utah wear home uniforms when we play? I seem to remember that Utah will be wearing red uniforms when we play kind of like USC and UCLA have started to do.


That's still my understanding. As an independent, BYU could make the stipulation in all their contracts that BYU will wear blue jerseys even on the road unless the jerseys clash (e.g., Utah State).
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Mingjai
Just be glad BYU won't be involved in this match-up:



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redneckjedi
Mingjai wrote:
Tradition, Spirit, Honor. It's the first one, dude. Teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Penn State, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Alabama haven't changed their look, and won't even though they might be considered old or boring.


Actually, of the schools you've mentioned, Texas, OU, and Alabama have all worn or will wear one-off Pro Combat uniforms (like TCU, Florida, VTech). Notre Dame revises their uniforms periodically and even Penn State has a different jersey design this year...



I like BYU's current set, except I'd prefer not to see them wear blue on blue, because it doesn't look good with a white helmet. White on white looks good--very clean and classic. Works for Texas, Auburn, Penn State, and I like it for BYU. Coach Mendenhall should develop a set of rules on when the combinations will be worn, so it doesn't become too much of a distraction--e.g., blue-white at home, white-white on road in September, white-blue on road otherwise, royal blue-white against Utah.



One thing I'd also like to BYU do is old school striped socks. Their traditional look fits very well with striped socks:



http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kansas+City+Chiefs+v+Chicago+Bears+S72rWs1kClql.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">


My point is that none of them have been sucked into the Oregon-esque 1 billion combination neon madness the OP seems to be advocating. People do one offs. Personally, I don't care for them, but hey, whatever. They also tweak things, like adding/removing a logo, adding/removing a stripe or other minor design element. That's fine. You can do that without destroying your brand. But when you have 4 different helmets and 6 different jersey/pants colors that can all be worn in any number of combinations and every single one of them looks like radioactive cat vomit, you have a problem.



As for the all white look, I understand people may dig it. It's a matter of taste. Personally, I don't like it. Seems like whenever we do that for a big game it doesn't go well for us, and I prefer to see the white jersey / blue pants combo anyway. After all, on a team of all white guys (TIC) you need something to make it stand out, right? ;) Also not a fan of the blue-blue, either.



I think my favorite iteration of BYU uniforms were the '96 ones with the black accents that made the numbers pop out a little. I still have my jacket from that era. LOVE it. :)
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SpiffCoug
Hasn't Texas switched helmets a couple times in the last few years. It seems like Texas has had games/seasons where they numbers above the longhorn on the helmet and games/season with just the longhorn.
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Mingjai
SpiffCoug wrote:
Hasn't Texas switched helmets a couple times in the last few years. It seems like Texas has had games/seasons where they numbers above the longhorn on the helmet and games/season with just the longhorn.


Yes, as a throwback and a Nike Pro Combat uniform.



Anyway, the OP should try playing with all of Arizona State's combinations:



http://astate.wirthless.com/
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Gunk
How about dark blue uniforms with white bibs...
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redneckjedi
Mingjai wrote:
Hasn't Texas switched helmets a couple times in the last few years. It seems like Texas has had games/seasons where they numbers above the longhorn on the helmet and games/season with just the longhorn.


Yes, as a throwback and a Nike Pro Combat uniform.



Anyway, the OP should try playing with all of Arizona State's combinations:



http://astate.wirthless.com/


That was gross. :sick:
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loonmj
Gunk wrote:
How about dark blue uniforms with white bibs...

:sick: Oh the memories. They were awful on the smaller guys but even worse on the big linemen who looked like they were ready for a lobster dinner. Embarrassing.
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