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ND Coach Admits ND Might Have to Join a Conference!

by DesertCougar · 8/25/2011

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DesertCougar
For all the talk surrounding conference alignment, this has been the most surprising. Coach Kelly actually admitted that ND might have to join a conference if super conferences start forming. I have never heard any sort of admission coming out of ND, so this really caught me off guard. Here is a link:



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It got me thinking...what conference would they join if they "had to."



History says that they will join the B1G because everyone says that they would fit best there. However, I read a post on CC about speculation of the Big12 changing their structure to form a loose affiliation, rather than a traditional conference. The gist of it was that in order to stay together, the Big12 needs to offer some big names something that they cannot get elsewhere. The would offer schools that join the right to keep/build their own network. I think that is the only way ND joins the Big12.



At first I thought that there is no way this could work, but the longer I thought about it, the more it made sense. First, there is no way that the Big12 stays together if super-conferences start forming, unless they have something special to offer some big name schools. And it would have to be REAL $pecial ;) to get a team like ND to join an unstable Big12...The ace up their sleeve would be the ability to offer schools the right to maintain their own network, which means $$$$ for ND, with or without profit sharing of the other affiliation pie! It would do two things: stabilize the Big12 and remove the jealously the other schools have towards Texas. The two big questions are how the heck are they going to make it work legally? And would BYU get invited?



Another question I had was about scheduling. I know that ND and BYU like the flexibility to schedule a variety of teams and venues. It helps exposure and recruiting. I think Texas sees it and would like to try it out too. I wonder if the loose affiliation could require no more than 6 conference games a year. This would allow for the desired freedom and for previous rivalries to continue. Talk about a best case scenario! Is there anyway it could get better than that?
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Guest
Big 12 has one play here, and only one play. Become the first super conference, and the only way they can do that is as you've said, offer a loose alliance and allow for individual tv deals in addition to the conference deals.
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byucougar1
ESPN Austin, TX just spoke about ND and BYU - in same breath - being considered as receiving offers because of their national following and desire to expand outside their current footprint. They would be able to keep their TV rights and get full revenue sharing from Big 12 contracts. Seems like a deal that we should definitely consider.



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mizzoucoug
I think you take that deal because it seems to me that backing out into independence wouldn't be a high exit barrier.
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redneckjedi
mizzoucoug wrote:
I think you take that deal because it seems to me that backing out into independence wouldn't be a high exit barrier.


Yeah - the only issue is the non-football sports. If you bail on the WCC and then the wheels come off of the Big XII in a year or two, do they take you back? If not, where do you go with the other sports?
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SpiffCoug
Could it be a football only Super Conference? Let BYU stay WCC and ND remain in the Big East?
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Schmoe
If we jumped in as football-only, then there wouldn't be Sunday play issues with any of the other sports, as well. I think it would be a win-win to keep our other sports in the WCC, and we could play some non-conf games in basketball vs. Big XII opponents, as well.
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jonnylingo
Schmoe wrote:
If we jumped in as football-only, then there wouldn't be Sunday play issues with any of the other sports, as well. I think it would be a win-win to keep our other sports in the WCC, and we could play some non-conf games in basketball vs. Big XII opponents, as well.


I agree. the WCC is actually better for byu in some sprots. Basketball has worked fine for Gonzaga. Then get some quality occ games done through our affiliation with big12 in football.
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Wickchad
jonnylingo wrote:
If we jumped in as football-only, then there wouldn't be Sunday play issues with any of the other sports, as well. I think it would be a win-win to keep our other sports in the WCC, and we could play some non-conf games in basketball vs. Big XII opponents, as well.


I agree. the WCC is actually better for byu in some sprots. Basketball has worked fine for Gonzaga. Then get some quality occ games done through our affiliation with big12 in football.


Having a football only agreement with a bunch of teams will only work until the Big 12 decides to start a conference TV network. At that point they would need all of the other sports to provide content for their network.
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Y 4 Ever
Long term, if BYU fball is in the Big 12, then the rest of the sports need to be as well. For a few years, it might make sense for other sports to stay in the WCC, but eventually, they would be moved over.
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Y 4 Ever wrote:
Long term, if BYU fball is in the Big 12, then the rest of the sports need to be as well. For a few years, it might make sense for other sports to stay in the WCC, but eventually, they would be moved over.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, what a shafting of the basketball team if it is made to stay in the WCC playing the Zags and St Mary's when it could have been in the Big XII playing Kansas.
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