BYUtv iPhone and iPad app

The only thing I don't like about this is the fact that there is not a concurrent Android release. You'd think someone in marketing would have pushed them to develop the app for the 38% market share before the 26% market share, but what do I know.



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ipad market share is closer to 90%. And if you're going to watch TV, it's probably more on a tablet than on a phone. And if you're going to develop for the ipad first, it's that much easier to port to iphone. Android is a completely different beast.



Now that I've said that, I'm watching the Utep BYU game on my brand new BYUTV app on my phone.



NIiiiice!

Awesome... The BYUTV Roku app (still beta) is pretty good.

If I were an actual Jedi, this post would read:



You WILL *handwave* buy an iPad for me!



Instead, I'll just have to hope that somebody working on this app is reading this post and volunteer my services, free of charge, to help port it to Android. Seriously. I want it that much.

iPad market share is at just over 65%---over a 22% drop in the last year, and most expect it to drop below 50% in the next 18 months once Vizio's line of tablets hits Amazon and Walmart and as the jailbreaks for Kindles and Nooks gain momentum. There is one analyst who got a bunch of Apple-dedicatee driven pub in April for predicting the iPad would retain 50%+ market share through 2015, but he didn't have anything to really back it up other than he thought Apple products were sticky.....but we see with the iPhone that stickiness doesn't translate to domination.....just longevity.

Android users---don't hold your breath on an Android app. I received this email from BYUtv this afternoon:

Thank you for taking the time to write. We always appreciate hearing from those interested in our station and its programs. As it turns out, we are not planning on developing an app at this time, though as the android market stabilizes, it could be on a future roadmap. If you have any more questions feel free to contact us again.



Kyle

ARe you kidding??? Is apple paying someone?

declocoug wrote:
ARe you kidding??? Is apple paying someone?

I love the "as the Android market stabilizes" line. With 12% more marketshare, and projected to grow to over 60% over the next two years, what kind of stability are they looking for?



Anyone want to drum up a petition?

snoscythe wrote:

ARe you kidding??? Is apple paying someone?

I love the "as the Android market stabilizes" line. With 12% more marketshare, and projected to grow to over 60% over the next two years, what kind of stability are they looking for?



Anyone want to drum up a petition?

I just had a nightmare about BYU becoming one with Comcast and that BYU fans in order to enjoy the best BYU sports experience possible would have to endure more around the clock calls/letters/emails complaining that they need the Android app.



Seriously, how hard can it be to get that for android? If a petition gets drafted, I'll put my name on it.

My work requires me to carry an iPhone and an iPad. After resisting at first, I have grown to like both of them. Now - if I had to fork out my own money - I might go with the droid, but having the iPhone and iPad duo does make it easy to switch back and forth.



I guess I will go look for the BYU app.

If I understand it correctly, the Android OS is fairly open to developers--so it's probably just a matter of finding a dedicated programmer.



I just downloaded the iPad app and it looks pretty slick. Nice for watching old football games and episodes of True Blue. I could probably stream it to the HD tv and get a better looking picture than the SD BYUtv channel I get through U-verse.



I haven't seen an Android tablet yet, but my guess is that BYU thinks the market and development process for iPad is better entrenched right now.

Petition baby!!!!! I have android and due to that fact that I can't run an Mac/Apple computer there is no way in hell that I would ever buy and I phone. Plus everyone that I know who had android and then went to I phone says they wish they had their droid back. Start the petition I will sign.

trueblue72 wrote:
Petition baby!!!!! I have android and due to that fact that I can't run an Mac/Apple computer there is no way in hell that I would ever buy and I phone. Plus everyone that I know who had android and then went to I phone says they wish they had their droid back. Start the petition I will sign.

My brother went from the iPhone to Android and says he hates the Android interface. This is coming from a guy who has LinuxRox on his license plate. As a software developer I love the open platform of Android, but it is all about apps. If the Android market can produce the apps that users want it will win, if not the iPhone will.



Having developed software for 20 years, my gut tells me that Android will be the eventual winner. It's all about apps, as we can see from this thread.

This is simply a case of whomever does the programming for BYUtv being familiar with the iapp platform and not java. It's becoming increasingly obvious that iDevices are slipping behind the more open Android platform. This is a position Apple has been in before with the early Mac computers, which because of their strangle hold on the hardware led to the emergence of a better and more robust PC platform. Sadly, it looks like Apple didn't learn anything from their last failure, which isn't surprising with an egomaniac like Jobs at the helm.

snoscythe wrote:
iPad market share is at just over 65%---over a 22% drop in the last year, and most expect it to drop below 50% in the next 18 months once Vizio's line of tablets hits Amazon and Walmart and as the jailbreaks for Kindles and Nooks gain momentum. There is one analyst who got a bunch of Apple-dedicatee driven pub in April for predicting the iPad would retain 50%+ market share through 2015, but he didn't have anything to really back it up other than he thought Apple products were sticky.....but we see with the iPhone that stickiness doesn't translate to domination.....just longevity.

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This article from March 2011 says once you take out unsold retail channel inventory, ipad at 90% Market share in Q4 2010



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This article from a Nielsen poll in May 2011 places the ipad marketshare at 83%. Still a drop if you believe the first article, but even if BYU used the 65% number you quoted it's still a commanding figure. The above article from Nielsen polling places the next closest competitor at 4% marketshare but but it's probably safe to assume that all of the remaining 17% marketshare belongs to android since the HP/Palm OS touchpad was just released and the Cisco Cius is also pretty new.



but regardless of where it really is (hard to pinpoint actual sales), Android is certainly not to be ignored and if the iphone vs. android story is to be repeated, then the ipad is indeed in line for some kind of drop. If I were to guess why BYU isn't developing for it, it's simply because Apple has a long history with the education market and the people in charge probably all use iphones and ipads.

So, unless the guys that put this together had some serious tunnel vision, they should have designed the app in a way that it's just a user interface written for iOS that's connecting with the BYUtv server through some standardized API to stream video and download programming information. A port to Android shouldn't be that hard. However, if they don't have the resources, I get it.



That being said, I've recently moved into a role at work where I'm going to be developing specifically for tablet operating systems. I also have 1 hour of train rides a day on my commute that I spend honing my Android skills. I would be the happiest man in the world if BYUtv would say, "This is what our API looks like. Have it it." I don't need their iOS source code, and I won't ask for a dime in return. I'm not in a position financially where I can donate money back to BYU, although I would love to. But I can give them 1 hour every weekday of development time.



So, who do I talk to? I want this done!

I downloaded the BYUTV ap today and streamed the NM Bowl to my TV through my apple TV... It looked and sounded like the original airing but without the commercials. There were 50-60 BYU football games including the Miracle Bowl, the LV bowls, last years bowl game and a bunch of classics. This is a great upgrade already. The rest of the summer will be filled with BYU football for me.



I hope they can get the android ap soon, because this is great to have access to.



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hawkwing wrote:
This is simply a case of whomever does the programming for BYUtv being familiar with the iapp platform and not java. It's becoming increasingly obvious that iDevices are slipping behind the more open Android platform. This is a position Apple has been in before with the early Mac computers, which because of their strangle hold on the hardware led to the emergence of a better and more robust PC platform. Sadly, it looks like Apple didn't learn anything from their last failure, which isn't surprising with an egomaniac like Jobs at the helm.

You realize, of course, that Apple is the most valuable tech company in the world, right?



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snoscythe wrote:
Android users---don't hold your breath on an Android app. I received this email from BYUtv this afternoon:

Thank you for taking the time to write. We always appreciate hearing from those interested in our station and its programs. As it turns out, we are not planning on developing an app at this time, though as the android market stabilizes, it could be on a future roadmap. If you have any more questions feel free to contact us again.



Kyle

Kyle probably also didn't get a cell phone until 2007 - waiting for the the cell phone market to stabilize. He's also still waiting to purchase a smartphone to see if those things really catch on. He has no idea what a tablet it.