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Guess this player #3

by SpiffCoug · 6/21/2011

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SpiffCoug
Draft Express:

- he probably won't be defending many shooting guards on the NBA level, but he was amongst the biggest stars of the weekend in media interviews.

- Not as blazingly fast with his first step as [other point guards], [he] plays at a very unique pace that keeps defenses consistently off-balance and allows him to get to the basket seemingly whenever he needs to.

- Able to drive left or right almost equally well, he has excellent timing on his drives, very good body control, and the ability to operate at different speeds.

- Rather than just attempting to blow by opponents using his pure first step, [he]instead likes to toy with his defender, using tricky stutter-steps, strong body fakes, and perfectly timed hesitation moves to beat opponents smoothly and slitherly.

- His above average size and strength, coupled with his under control demeanor and ability to use both hands equally well around the basket makes him a phenomenal finisher once at the rim. He is crafty and elegant with his layups, but is also not afraid to sacrifice his body and just barrel into a defender in order to draw a foul, which helps him make up for the degree of explosiveness that he seemingly lacks rising up above the rim in traffic.

- He shows excellent shooting mechanics and is already near-automatic with his feet set, also being very capable of making shots off the dribble with a quick release. He's constantly probing the defense and won't hesitate for a second to pull up for a 3-pointer if an opponent goes under the screen in hopes of cutting off his driving angle, which makes him quite a handful to game-plan against

- Luckily for the team that drafts him, according to all reports [he] is a serious, highly competitive and extremely intelligent player both on and off the court, with a terrific work ethic and a winning mentality.

- Although he's clearly a willing passer, the ball tends to stick to his hands just a tad too much at times, and he has been responsible for a handful of sloppy possessions. His turnover rate is probably a little higher than [his coach] would like.



NBADraft.net

Strengths:

- Jumpshot has great form

- Good one on one skills

- Can pull up off the dribble

- A strong finisher exhibiting good body control

- Has excellent ball handling ability with a nasty crossover

- Ambidextrous with the dribble, showing impressive ability to go to the left and finish with his off hand

- High motor kid who gets strong reviews for his character and work ethic

Weaknesses:

- Could struggle with the transition to the NBA game

- Not known for highlight reel dunks or a player who overwhelms opponents with his physicality

- Tendency to get out of control attacking the basket

- Tends to get too caught up with his ability to handle the ball, at times causing over dribbling and poor offensive team possessions



ESPN

Positives:

- Has good range on his jump shot

- High basketball IQ
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Schmoe
Balls, man!
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blue42
Spiff I think you are trying to trick us, I think all 3 players are Jimmer.
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Schmoe
blue42 wrote:
Spiff I think you are trying to trick us, I think all 3 players are Jimmer.


I know for a fact that this is not true ;)
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blue42
Schmoe wrote:
Spiff I think you are trying to trick us, I think all 3 players are Jimmer.


I know for a fact that this is not true ;)


Crap!! I lost!
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Gunk
#1 is Jimmer. I don't care who the other two are. :D
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SpiffCoug
The three players were Kyrie Irving (#3), Brandon Knight (#2) and Kemba Walker (#1).



I thought it was interesting that if you take out the names for all of their strengths and weaknesses, you would think they were talking about Jimmer. Yet for whatever reason there is a nowhere near the level of uncertainty surrounding these guys as there is around Fredette.



I really think all four of these guys are very similar. I think the combine and workouts have shown that the gap between these guys isn't as large as people think and/or thought it would be.
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Guest
Interesting, I thought maybe you had gone into the past and found some for guys like Nash/CP3/Williams
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mizzoucoug
Statistically speaking, only 1.5 or so out of the top 4 PG's will ever be anything in the NBA. I am going to go out on a limb and say that Kemba and Irving will fizzle in the league for one reason or another.



I like Knight's game and I think that he and Jimmer will be that 1.5 who make a good career out of this.
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SpiffCoug
mizzoucoug wrote:
Statistically speaking, only 1.5 or so out of the top 4 PG's will ever be anything in the NBA. I am going to go out on a limb and say that Kemba and Irving will fizzle in the league for one reason or another.



I like Knight's game and I think that he and Jimmer will be that 1.5 who make a good career out of this.

So do Jimmer and Knight split the 1.5 and .75 each of a career, or does Knight get the .5 with Jimmer having a full career? :)
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blue42
SpiffCoug wrote:
Statistically speaking, only 1.5 or so out of the top 4 PG's will ever be anything in the NBA. I am going to go out on a limb and say that Kemba and Irving will fizzle in the league for one reason or another.



I like Knight's game and I think that he and Jimmer will be that 1.5 who make a good career out of this.

So do Jimmer and Knight split the 1.5 and .75 each of a career, or does Knight get the .5 with Jimmer having a full career? :)


Actually it's the other way around because Knight is taller! ;)
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Isola
I was going to guess Irving for this one (I swear). Not bad. I only missed Brandon Knight.



You are right, they dog all these guys for almost the exact same things that they dog Jimmer for but they like these guys.



This one with keeping defenders off balance sounded a lot like Jimmer, but not enough shooting praise. The Knight one sounded like him with the shooting and not dunking, but didn't criticize the defense enough.



The more I hear about these other guys, the more I think Jimmer really has a shot at the next level. I especially love it when people praise Irving like crazy and then say "Now he just needs to get a jumper." I would have thought a jumper was required to be the #1 pick at PG.



And then the claim that Irving is the one sure thing in this draft, despite only playing 11 games.
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