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Solar Power = 11x more deadly than Nuclear Power

by snoscythe · 3/20/2011

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snoscythe
Let's not let a little bit of panic get in the way of facts:



http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/deaths-per-twh-by-energy-source.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Nuclear is FAR and away the best option going forward.



The site in general is a good source for more technical (and objective) information about what is happening in Japan and what the effects might be, as well as for info on nuclear power in general.
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taekwondave
I support this post.
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CougarClaw
Planes may be the safest method to travel, but when things go wrong, things go REALLY wrong. There's no such thing as an airplane "fender bender". same thing with nuclear energy.



Good statistics and a reminder of what energy costs us. It's not what nuclear costs us in terms of deaths, but it's more how deadly everything else is.



An no matter what you tell some people , they will never fly in a plane.



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Schmoe
CougarClaw wrote:
Planes may be the safest method to travel, but when things go wrong, things go REALLY wrong. There's no such thing as an airplane "fender bender". same thing with nuclear energy.


Not really, name one nuclear power related incident besides Chernobyl that has gone REALLY wrong. There was an incident in Pennsylvania about a half century ago with zero deaths and very little radiation problems. Your analogy is just another myth perpetuated by the "green" scare machine.
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Guest
Airplanes have fender benders all the time. Just like cars, they bump into things like luggage trucks and other things that may result in a small dent. The part is instantly changed out and the world goes on. Now are there very few accidents where a plane goes from flying at normal speeds to a complete stop with no damage? Not very likely, nor does a car travelling on the freeway at normal speeds end up in an accident with little or no damage either.
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jvquarterback
I'm a radiation oncologist. The power plants are safe, but they are an incredible investment. Without government subsidies they wouldn't exist how they do today. Other options are much less expensive and less risky (to the consumer).



That said, if you want to pay to start your own nuclear power plant, I'm all for it. Even given Chernobyl, there have been far fewer deaths per watt from nuclear power than from mining coal, natural gas and oil.
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CougarClaw
Schmoe wrote:
Planes may be the safest method to travel, but when things go wrong, things go REALLY wrong. There's no such thing as an airplane "fender bender". same thing with nuclear energy.


Not really, name one nuclear power related incident besides Chernobyl that has gone REALLY wrong. There was an incident in Pennsylvania about a half century ago with zero deaths and very little radiation problems. Your analogy is just another myth perpetuated by the "green" scare machine.


I was trying to talk about public perception rather than actual problems. Let me try another analyogy. If you have a fatal car crash. It makes state/local news. You have a fatal plane crash, it makes national news. You have a fatal Nuclear accident it makes international news. Nuclear is more sensational. It's synonymous in the public mind with nuclear bombs and Iranian centrifuges which are "bad". Blame the green scare machine if you'd like, but assuming that's the case, then it's been very effective.



I think Nuclear is superior to Coal and solar just like the original link shows and I also believe that Japan's experience should be a learning experience rather than a dire warning away from a dangerous technology -- but you also have to keep in mind that japan was probably THE most prepared country on the planet for disasters especially given their tectonic position on this planet. If THEY couldn't handle it.



That being said, I just looked up and there were several Nuclear plants in Louisiana when Katrina came through. They shut down for the hurricane, and resumed once it blew over. No news was VERY good news especially given the flooding they experienced. I don't know much about them, but that surprised me.



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Schmoe
Thanks for clarifying, completely agree with you.
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CougarClaw
Schmoe wrote:
Thanks for clarifying, completely agree with you.


well what fun is there in THAT? :D
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