jmvcougar wrote:
Do we really even know how much Tressell really knew? And as for honesty last I checked there was still an honor code when Jimmy Mac went to school at BYU. There's countless stories of countless players doing stuff whether unlawful on morally unclean where no actions were ever taken and you can't tell me the coaches had no idea what was going on? Lavell knew what was going on he just turned the other cheek and figured if somebody was going to do something about it it surely wasn't going to be him. Last I checked that's dishonest. But do we punish coaches for ticky tacky things like that? No, because it doesn't matter and it's the team that we all root for. It's easy to find flaws in something that you hate. And most of you tend to hate OSU. if this was Eastern Tennessee State nobody would be talking about it. Stuff like this isn't going away. And I'd say let's go after the people who actually commit crimes and instead of just giving these people 4th and 5th chances the NCAA should kick these kids out of school. Oh wait I guess they don't want to be considered racist or what have you...
As for the drug issue I have been to bars and parties tattoo parlors and everywhere else where heavy drugs and alcohol were being used even by some of my good friends so does that mean I participated? No, but I guess to some people I'd be guilty just by association.
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As per ESPN.com,
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6195223Ohio State officials say Tressel broke NCAA rules because he didn't tell athletics director Gene Smith or the school's compliance office about e-mails he received from an attorney in April 2010, which indicated Buckeyes players were receiving improper benefits.
Tressel never even mentioned the e-mails nine months later, when in December the NCAA suspended five Ohio State players, including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor, for the first five games of the 2011 season for selling memorabilia and awards from the tattoo parlor owner.
That's what he knew, as per OSU (and can people stop calling it "The Ohio State University"? It's so stupid and sounds little brother-ish to me). He knew and did nothing, that's the problem. Not that what the players did was some egregious error but that it was wrong, according to the NCAA, and should have been revealed when the coach was informed. He knew, let his players play despite being ineligible to play if the NCAA knew, and therefore he should be punished for it. It's ridiculous to give him the slap on the wrist treatment he is being given.
As far as 'hating' OSU, I don't hate them at all. Why would I take the time to hate somebody who plays in a protected conference that is not, in reality,that much bettern than the MWC and who doesn't play ANYBODY outside of their conference? At least the ACC and Big East teams venture outside of their state (see OSU playing Troy, Ohio University and Little Sisters of the Poor on a yearly basis) to play non conference or, heaven forbid, cross the Mississippi. I'll save my 'hatred' for a rival or someone who would play BYU if given the chance.
As for BYU in the past letting stuff slide. My dad was a Sergeant on campus in the 70's-80's and he was asked, on many occasions, to go and pick up a certain individual from a bar or club and bring him home. When he got back the first time, he was told to not write up any report about it and just let it go. He struggled for several years with this and finally had to retire as he couldn't justify it in his mind any longer. So, yes, it did happen. However, in the recent past (90's - present) as witnessed by BD and HU situations as well as the supposed "rape" junk in 2004(?), BYU has let the honor code govern, regardless of who it is going to hurt. Can't say the same thing about OSU following much looser and easier to live by NCAA rules. Do you see BM doing the same thing, knowing about an NCAA rules violation (not just things he had heard possibly might have happened like many of the things that you mentioned Lavell let slide)and NOT doing anything about it? I have a hard time seeing that ever being the case.
