Detmer Never Interviewed With Coaches

Boy, I had no idea I had a source in the BYU football program until this last week. Just wanted to squash the rumor on Detmer. He never interviewed with any coaches--since they were all out of town.



Also, Bronco and the other coaches (except maybe Doman) were hoping Nelson would be the starter because Heaps came in believing his own hype. Apparently, after the 1-5 start, he was humbled. That is when things started getting better for him--and the schedule happened to get a heck of a lot easier too.



As for Chambers, it is not one event that led to his removal from the team. Apparently it was attitude issues in general--such as not having a filter and having to say everything on his mind. To his credit, he is redshirting this next year and sticking with the program.



As for the Anae situation, communication had completely broken down on the offensive staff. Apparently, Anae wasn't the only one at fault, and Bronco did not necessarily want him to leave when the whole offensive staff had to reapply for their jobs. I think it was a tool used by Bronco to get them on the same page and communicating. But, I think Anae saw the writing on the wall. The offensive staff was just not communicating well together--I am sure the pressure of the two QB situation, the losses, etc. took its toll on the offensive staff.



My source was pretty excited about Ben Cahoon's hire and expects the offensive staff to be much more unified this next year.



Sorry, that is all I could glean. My source is pretty good at stonewalling me and making me draw information out bit by bit.

Relationships are tricky things to describe and understand, especially when things aren't optimal. Good additional POVs.

The source confirms a lot of things for me that make sense. Now I just hope it's a really good source and I haven't just bought into myself.

Thanks 87. Although, it would have been nice if you could tap this source BEFORE the events unfold. ;)

declocoug wrote:
Thanks 87. Although, it would have been nice if you could tap this source BEFORE the events unfold. ;)

Hey, I'm new to this business. Better late than never?

While Demter may have never interviewed, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't at least talk to Bronco. And I wouldn't be surprised if in that discussion, Bronco brought up some expectations (time requirements, etc) and Detmer decided he didn't want to be that committed.



I do think Heaps bought into his own hype. I do think he got better after being humbled, but that he also benefitted greatly from the additional reps after Nelson was hurt and from the bye week. The fact still remains he was the worst starting QB ever at BYU before the bye week and was a very good starter post-bye week.



I think Chambers is growing up. I think he'll leave BYU as a better person than when he arrived and will be a good person and role example for what can happen to non-LDS who come to BYU.



It was blatantly obvious that there was no communication on the offensive staff. I think it's clear now that instead of coming to a decision and compromise on the QB situation that no discussion happened and no decision was reached. And instead of changing and communicating, Anae chose to leave. It's my opinion that every offensive coach was indeed released and asked to reapply. Not once offensive coach was at fault and all were to blame. By releasing all of them, they can all rededicate themselves to BYU and their positions.



There is great reason to be excited by Cahoon. It wasn't the NFL, but he's retired from professional football as the best wide reciever of all time in that league. If you're a WR, who wouldn't want to learn from a greatest ever?

kitic77 wrote:
While Demter may have never interviewed, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't at least talk to Bronco. And I wouldn't be surprised if in that discussion, Bronco brought up some expectations (time requirements, etc) and Detmer decided he didn't want to be that committed.

If that happened, it would have been a conversation that occured outside of the incident when Detmer visited Provo and Dick Harmon indicated he interviewed. According to my source, none of the coaches were even around when Detmer was in town, so an interview was impossible. I suppose a conversation could have occured via phone. Honestly, though, the fact that Detmer has expressed his desire to never leave Texas coincides well with my source's statement that he never interviewed for the position.

kitic77 wrote:
I do think Heaps bought into his own hype. I do think he got better after being humbled, but that he also benefitted greatly from the additional reps after Nelson was hurt and from the bye week. The fact still remains he was the worst starting QB ever at BYU before the bye week and was a very good starter post-bye week.

Perhaps I am naive, but this was a little suprising to me. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but at least the situation was corrected. I think a humble attitude, hard work, gelling with teammates, an easier schedule, and a week off all worked in Heaps favor. I expect great things in the future.

kitic77 wrote:
It was blatantly obvious that there was no communication on the offensive staff. I think it's clear now that instead of coming to a decision and compromise on the QB situation that no discussion happened and no decision was reached. And instead of changing and communicating, Anae chose to leave. It's my opinion that every offensive coach was indeed released and asked to reapply. Not once offensive coach was at fault and all were to blame. By releasing all of them, they can all rededicate themselves to BYU and their positions.

I had heard rumblings and most of the blame placed on Anae, but it sounds like the break down in communication was not solely Anae's fault. I agree with you that Bronco was serious when he wanted all coaches to reapply--it wasn't just a ploy to get rid of Anae like I had imagined. My source shot that idea down and stated that Bronco was serious about everyone reapplying and Anae wasn't soley at fault for the breakdown in communication. My source also indicated that Bronco did not necessarily want Anae to leave. I imagine that Bronco knew he had a lot of good parts that were not functioning well in their current organization and requiring the coaches to reapply was a tool to get them functioning more smoothly--like the defensive staff post Hill (though they didn't need a reorganization). For whatever reason, Anae wanted to move on. Perhaps he felt he shouldered too much of the blame for the communication issues. Or perhaps he felt he could not live with others on the offensive staff. Why he chose to leave, we don't really know. But the fact that Bronco was not using this as a ploy--as I believed, is actually comforting. He is an upstanding guy and would not operate indirectly when direct action was merited--see Hill's termination, for example.



From the things I have heard about Bronco's leadership, I am very glad he is sticking around. My source indicated Bronco will be sticking around for at least five more years--at least that is the impression he gives others. Who's to say how long he will be around, but I hope it is longer. Apparently he is a fantastic boss. All of the coaches switched around offices and he held a contest for whoever decorated the best. To the winner, he gave $400 out of his own pocket. I heard Lance Reynolds' office was very impressive--he had one wall lined with Conference Championships. I'm not sure who actually won the contest. Bronco is always trying to motivate, and sounds like an awesome guy to work for.



Oh, one last tidbit. If you are going to write Bronco a letter and berate his coaching, please at least be man enough to sign your name. The staff gets a kick out of those who write negative letters but aren't man enough to sign their names. I'm thinking of writing him a complimentary letter since I am very proud of the program, what it stands for, and the job he has done as head coach. And I'll sign my name.



Maybe I'll send him a mixed tape too. :love: :lol:

I posted this several weeks ago, but Detmer DID interview. I guess you could say he never interviewed with any coaches if that's how you want to define it, but he definitely spoke/interviewed with administrators. It was more of a discussion to gauge interest and feel out the position of both parties.



I'm not doubting your sources because there wasn't a formal interview with any coaches, but these talks with administrators absolutely occurred.



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ThrowbackBlue wrote:
I posted this several weeks ago, but Detmer DID interview. I guess you could say he never interviewed with any coaches if that's how you want to define it, but he definitely spoke/interviewed with administrators. It was more of a discussion to gauge interest and feel out the position of both parties.



I'm not doubting your sources because there wasn't a formal interview with any coaches, but these talks with administrators absolutely occurred.



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I edited the original post to indicate he never interviewed with any coaches. You are right that my source only indicated that he never interviewed with any coaches. Now if he had conversations with the AD, or someone else, I can't say. Perhaps that is why Harmon indicated he had interviewed, even though no one in the football program was aware of Detmer interviewing for a position. I don't think it really matters if Detmer talked to the AD because I am pretty sure any hire would have to come through Bronco.

Cougarfan87 wrote:
For whatever reason, Anae wanted to move on. Perhaps he felt he shouldered too much of the blame for the communication issues. Or perhaps he felt he could not live with the offensive coachs

He was reading the news, there was a firestorm of fans and media calling for his head because he chose to run the ball 3 times in a row in the Utah game and was a bad play caller and blah blah blah...



"whatever reason" was probably 'us'.

Cougarfan87 wrote:

If you are going to write Bronco a letter and berate his coaching, please at least be man enough to sign your name.

yes, but DON"T leave your facebook open to public comments.... :D