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Bronco's Risk

by CougarClaw · 1/5/2011

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CougarClaw
This article speaks to what's been on my mind the whole time and is a cautionary read about getting rid of a good coach.



Fact 1) Robert Anae is a good to great coach (perhaps not legendary or elite but still regularly top -25)

Fact 2) If Doman doesn't do well... there will be hell to pay. Bronco's stock will take a serious hit.

Fact 3) After dumping a good to great coach, Doman's leash will be shorter than Anae's ever was.

Fact 4) If Doman does well, Bronco will come out looking like a genius and add even more to his already high stock with BYU.



Things to consider since most of us are big fans of Bronco but we need to acknowledge the type of risk he's taking here.



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/558141-byu-football-trading-doman-for-anae-is-a-gamble-for-bronco-mendenhall?source=rss_teams_Brigham_Young_Cougars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Cougy_Monster
CougarClaw wrote:
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Fact 3) After dumping a good to great coach, Doman's leash will be shorter than Anae's ever was.




The problem with Anae was that even when Bronco lengthened his leash Anae would slip a noose around his neck instead. He didn't gameplan or call plays with the kind of freedom and creativity that we need. I think Doman's leash will appear longer than Anae's ever did simply because Doman will test it and Anae never did.



But I totally agree. Any time you fire a proven coach and replace with another, even if proven somewhere else or in another capacity you run the chance of going from bad to worse. Just look at Michigan. They fired Lloyd Carr because he couldn't beat Ohio St. Now Rodriguez can barely do anything, even though he was a great coach at WV.
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gmj81
Valid points I suppose though I don't think any of them are facts per se save the first. But I really think taking Doman now is less of a risk than taking Anae was 6 years ago. Neither had any "play-calling" experience that we know of but I would imagine that Doman has some innate abilities just by shear nature of his QB background and needing to be able to read a defense. However, I recognize that the program is in vastly different stages now than when Anae was brought on board. But recruiting is a very HUGE part of a coaches success and responsibility and Doman is a proven recruiter, one of the best in the country in fact. I don't think you could say that Anae was a great recruiter when we hired him or even now. But he certainly brought a very important thing to Provo when we did hire him that was perhaps needed more than anything else: Discipline and an emphasis on sound execution. Certainly we wouldn't be where we are today without Anae. But again, I just don't really see the risk being as great as you state in replacing him with Doman. In fact, many would agree that the time has come where it was the no-brainer necessary to take the program to the next level. Bronco certainly seems to be of that opinion as well given some of his recent comments.
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I look at Anae as the BYU Offense's version of Ron McBride - he raised the O from the ashes, and took them as far as he was capable, but he had limitations that prevented him from taking them all the way to "elite" status, and had plateaued. Just like McBride for the :utard: s, it was time for Anae and for BYU to move on.



Here's to hoping that Doman works out for the BYU O at least as well as Oscar Meyer did for the :utard: (but for more than 2 years)
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craigoscarson
Bronco is willing to take a risk on a high ceiling guy like Doman because Mendenhall has his eyes set on greatness.



Sometimes you have to take a risk or two to be great.



Anaes ceiling is much lower in my opinion.



Doman is a BYU guy, blue blooded hard core Cougar fan that will do everything in his disposal to win. He's a great recruiter and now he's the face of our offense.



All reports are that the current players are ecstatic about the change.
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Cougs_Rule
NOt a huge risk. Not when most of Cougar-dom agrees.

Here's a terse checklist of who probably preferred doman.

players? check

Parents of prospective players? check

prospective players? check

Other coaches? pretty sure a check. just ask reynolds

the other teams who wanted Doman? check

fans? check--at least the majority

Boosters? CHECK--they are still pissed about the loss to utah.

Bronco? Big check

Holmoe? probably a check



So, who is to blame? MOST OF US. Who shares the risk? most of us. Who does it get pinned to? Maybe Bronco. But his get out of jail free cards comes from all of us--at least those who have the courage to get behind this decision and not take the early place in the "I told you he was a huge risk-I'm so smart" line.
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33311710 wrote:
I look at Anae as the BYU Offense's version of Ron McBride - he raised the O from the ashes, and took them as far as he was capable, but he had limitations that prevented him from taking them all the way to "elite" status, and had plateaued. Just like McBride for the :utard: s, it was time for Anae and for BYU to move on.



Here's to hoping that Doman works out for the BYU O at least as well as Oscar Meyer did for the :utard: (but for more than 2 years)


Very good analogy, this is what I think too.
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Cougarbib
CougarClaw wrote:
This article speaks to what's been on my mind the whole time and is a cautionary read about getting rid of a good coach.



Fact 1) Robert Anae is a good to great coach (perhaps not legendary or elite but still regularly top -25)

Fact 2) If Doman doesn't do well... there will be hell to pay. Bronco's stock will take a serious hit.

Fact 3) After dumping a good to great coach, Doman's leash will be shorter than Anae's ever was.

Fact 4) If Doman does well, Bronco will come out looking like a genius and add even more to his already high stock with BYU.



Things to consider since most of us are big fans of Bronco but we need to acknowledge the type of risk he's taking here.



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/558141-byu-football-trading-doman-for-anae-is-a-gamble-for-bronco-mendenhall?source=rss_teams_Brigham_Young_Cougars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;




Totally agree. There is upside opportunity potential and downside risk potential. Doman and Bronco are popular and change was an emotionally charged desire of the majority of fans who were expressing their views, so there will be a reasonable honeymoon period on this change.



The talent and experience combination and the continuity if Doman with Heaps, depending on what other coaching choices are made, should result in an offense that can more than carry it's own weight compared to 2010. Early schedule is a problem IMHO, but Bronco's biggest challenge should be defensive secondary next year - especially depth.



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SpiffCoug
Doman is the first OC in a LONG time at BYU that should step into an offense ready to be good.



Reynolds in 2000 didn't have great talent. No one knew what Crowton was going to do in 2001 and that included opposing defenses. Anae had talent, but they didn't know how to win or play with consistent execution and were learning totally different offense.



Doman should lead a good offense from the get go.
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Ddawg
If I might draw an analogy between car racing & football. Doman has ben handed the keys to a race car, lots of potential & lots of ponies under the hood. The motor needs some tweaks & the suspension needs tuning. But - it does not have a junky motor that needs to be swapped out or rebuilt. I think we have a winner here that just needs fine tuning & hard work - Bronco & Doman will succeed. They are not operating under any false illusion. All involved know exactly what they have & what needs to be done. Eyes are wide open. The situation could not be better for all involved: the Coaches, current players, recruits, and fans.
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Ddawg wrote:
If I might draw an analogy between car racing & football. Doman has ben handed the keys to a race car, lots of potential & lots of ponies under the hood. The motor needs some tweaks & the suspension needs tuning. But - it does not have a junky motor that needs to be swapped out or rebuilt. I think we have a winner here that just needs fine tuning & hard work - Bronco & Doman will succeed. They are not operating under any false illusion. All involved know exactly what they have & what needs to be done. Eyes are wide open. The situation could not be better for all involved: the Coaches, current players, recruits, and fans.


you must be from Georgia...
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CrimsonCoug
I think the article's way overblown the personal risk to Bronco. Mendenhall has way to much cache and good will (and good sense) to have his job be on the chopping block should the Doman experiment go wrong.
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Lawboy
I just want to point out that the typical BYU offense was a 2-3 WR set, with 1 TE, usually lined up on the line. The Anae formula was 2 WR, 2 TE, and splits off the line for 1, if not both, TE's. I expect to see BYU go back to a 1 TE formation, and to see that guy on the line so he can run block, or shed a block and hit the passing lane, which is more deceptive. I expect to see more 2 WR, 2 RB sets as well, or some 5 WR sets. Basically, I think the formations we use will be much more creative, and not tied to using 2 TEs. Which means of those 5 freshman we had in that area, some will need to move or risk not seeing the field. Fewer chances to play will dictate it. I am sure spring ball will decide it. I bet a new playbook is already in the works.
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byutx
Keeping the status quo was a far greater risk to Bronco's goals. Under Anae, this offense had met its cieling.
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