RichRod fired at Michigan

2.5M buyout. Wish I could go 15-22 at UM too for that kind of money.

I understand the need to do something to appease the fans and success comes at a price, but I just don't understand offering contracts to people where there is this kind of incentive to fail. Seriously. Who writes these contracts anyways?

CougarClaw wrote:
I understand the need to do something to appease the fans and success comes at a price, but I just don't understand offering contracts to people where there is this kind of incentive to fail. Seriously. Who writes these contracts anyways?

The agents (Lawyers) that represent the coaches writes the contracts.



I am surprised that it took them this long to fire him. I watched his first game against the utes in 2008 and it was the worst looking gimmicky offense I have ever seen. It would have made Crowton blush. My brother is a HUGE michigan fan and I talked to him shortly after that game and he was furious over it. Just think, they fired a guy that won 8 games the year they fired him to hire this guy. The administration at Michigan should be fired for their stupidity.

frdbtr wrote:

I understand the need to do something to appease the fans and success comes at a price, but I just don't understand offering contracts to people where there is this kind of incentive to fail. Seriously. Who writes these contracts anyways?

The agents (Lawyers) that represent the coaches writes the contracts.



I am surprised that it took them this long to fire him. I watched his first game against the utes in 2008 and it was the worst looking gimmicky offense I have ever seen. It would have made Crowton blush. My brother is a HUGE michigan fan and I talked to him shortly after that game and he was furious over it. Just think, they fired a guy that won 8 games the year they fired him to hire this guy. The administration at Michigan should be fired for their stupidity.

Michigan didn't fire anyone to hire RichRod. Lloyd Carr retired.



The stupidity comes on RichRod's part. He walks into Michigan with no respect for the tradition of the place and immediately gets on everyone's bad side. When it is obvious that the defense is the problem, he doesn't decide to make a coaching change on that side of the ball.



If I were him, I would have fired the defensive coordinator no later than the day after the Ohio Staate game. Go out and get a great hire that everyone feels good about. He would still have a job if he had done that.

Y12 wrote:
Michigan didn't fire anyone to hire RichRod. Lloyd Carr retired.

Yep, and Anae "resigned" to take the Arizona job :bug: ;)

And Ken Schmidt retired at BYU too. So did Gary Crowton.



Lloyd Carr was forced out.



I feel sorry for whoever get's the Michigan job. They finally have the players on offense to run that system, but I doubt they will bring in someone that runs a similar system. I guess it may be easier to plug athletes into a pro-style system than it would be to go the other way.

stuckinbig10country wrote:
And Ken Schmidt retired at BYU too. So did Gary Crowton.



Lloyd Carr was forced out.



I feel sorry for whoever get's the Michigan job. They finally have the players on offense to run that system, but I doubt they will bring in someone that runs a similar system. I guess it may be easier to plug athletes into a pro-style system than it would be to go the other way.

At least under Lloyd Carr, the Wolverines were still competitive, even against superior talent. Under Carr, they were 5-2 against the SEC in bowl games. They also lost in competitive games to USC and Texas the Rose Bowl when both teams were more-or-less in their prime. I think Michigan needs to return to a pro-style system because they can recruit more pro-style players than read option players.

Multiple year contracts are common at most major colleges and in the Pros. Even BYU has moved un that direction. It is all about competing for the best coaches in a very high risk profession. Even though Michigan has to buy him out, they get a clean break without too much worry about a wrongful termination or discrimination lawsuit - especially given a Hispanic surname and an age likely over 40.



These contracts protect both parties, are reviewed by legal counsel by both parties, and are signed by both parties.



This is also common in business for C-Level executives and large severance negotiated settlements are common when no contract exists so that a CEO can make changes without long protracted disciplinary processes and associated documentation requirements.



This contract allows Michigan to quickly calculate their financial obligation, make a decision, call him in and tell him, and immediately move on.



So when / who will be the next domino to fall into place this off-season. UM must already know who is on their shortlist and this should not take long - barring untimely vacations.



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RichRod and boYlen should start an ice cream stand business together, they could pressure tweens into buying.

I love this!! I despise Rodriguez. The only honorable thing for him to do - fall on his sword!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :whistle: ;)

ESPN is reporting the Mich. AD is denying the report of RichRod being fired. Has a meeting with him tomorrow.



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Yeah I saw that. They are back tracking on the story from yesterday which is strangely been deleted from the website.



***Looks like the story is back up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5991296

What was the point in all that 'he wasn't fired' talk if the very next day they were just going to follow through with the early reports. Stupid IMO but whatever.



So does this mean they are going to make a strong push for Harbaugh, the Michigan man? As I recall, he has said that he doesn't have any pull to coaching back at his alma mater but if they threw enough money at him I have to think he would at least consider it. Anybody know how much money NFL coaches make on the average? I'd be willing to bet that Michigan will throw at least 4 million/yr with other incentives at him to get back to 'Michigan football' and keep the fans happy.

NFL coaches generally make more but a few Universities are pretty competitive. Michigan Alum Boosters would chip in big time for the right guy.



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I would argue that college coaching gigs on average are a bit more stable too, except at the very biggest of programs, like Michigan. But Michigan already made the worst mistake by trying to fit a 'square peg into a round hole' as ESPN said. Also even the biggest programs may be able to absorb the cost of a hefty buyout once in a while but two in a row would be difficult to swallow. But usually colleges at least give their coaches time to get their players in place and give them some slack as long as they are showing steady improvement. Some times NFL front offices give their coaches that luxury, especially if the coaches don't have as much say about the players or if they are a smaller market team and don't have the payroll to buy any player they want. But I think coaching gigs in the NFL on the average are even shorter than college ones.



I think it would be in the best interest of Harbaugh to stay in the college ranks. But I'm not going to lie, I'd also like to see Stanford drop out of power so they aren't as big a threat for the top LDS players.