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Coaching Prediction

by jonnylingo · 12/30/2010

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jonnylingo
I have no inside information but I am going to go out on a limb and say that doman becomes oc (the obvious) and detmer becomes the new quarterback coach.



With detmer its about commitment and whether he fits with bronco's 'effort' philosophy he is trying to instill. But I think Bronco gives the reigns over to doman to pick who he wants and make the decisions. that is why he released the whole staff together, so that doman could have at it in hiring or keeping whoever he wants.



While it would seem that doman would want to keep mentoring jake directly, I would not be suprised if detmer comes in. Doman will have plenty on his hands as a new offensive coordinator.



Thats my 'bold' prediction!



Who knows what happens with the others???
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SpiffCoug
So who takes over the TEs? Does Higgins stay on staff and coach all receivers?



My bold prediction:

Doman is hired as the offensive coordinator sometime next week. Detmer does not join the staff. Ben Cahoon does join. Weber stays in Provo. And Lance Reynolds helps Doman with his new responsibilities and Cahoon getting settled in the coaching profession.
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EM_Puma
Even if Doman becomes the OC, he can still be QB coach just the same as RA was TE coach. I think there are more TE's in the pool to coach than Doman had QB's.



The question is how much time RA spent actually recruiting. Maybe that's where he made up the time difference as Doman was constantly mentioned by many players we brought in as being in the recruiting mix whereas RA was not.
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Guest
I think the QB position is too big to share with the OC duties. I hope they get someone else to babysit the QBs if Doman does become the OC.
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jonnylingo
Jay Drew Tweet:



[img]Lingering%20memory%20from%20BYU-Utah%20game:%20WR%20coach%20Higgins%20emerging%20from%20locker%20room,%20having%20removed%20all%20BYU%20apparel%20from%20his%20body.%20Just%20sayin'[/img]



I would guess that Higgins is gone and cahoon comes on as well.
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scott715
and what does that quote say?
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Guest
scott715 wrote:
and what does that quote say?


It said that after the Utah game Coach Higgins came out of the locker room without any BYU gear on.



It was a pretty lame comment by Jay Drew and Harmon called him out on it.
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BigCougsFan
hawkwing wrote:
and what does that quote say?


It said that after the Utah game Coach Higgins came out of the locker room without any BYU gear on.



It was a pretty lame comment by Jay Drew and Harmon called him out on it.


Drew and his FrUtie personality. What a tool. What did he say when Harmon called him out on that?



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CannonCougar85
BigCougsFan wrote:
scott715 wrote:
and what does that quote say?


It said that after the Utah game Coach Higgins came out of the locker room without any BYU gear on.



It was a pretty lame comment by Jay Drew and Harmon called him out on it.


Drew and his FrUtie personality. What a tool. What did he say when Harmon called him out on that?




Harmon said: "It was a safety measure, we were both there :) You know, ice from above"

And Yes Harmon did have the smiley face in there.



So Drew Responded: "Yeah, that probably had something to do with it; gotta credit him for planning ahead, I guess."
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Cougs_Rule
I think most have predicted in other threads, but

Doman to OC

Detmer stays in Tx

Cahoon on.

Higgins out--interesting to see if he goes w anae but doubt it.

Cougarbib2 to coach Nelson ;-)



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snoscythe
Here's my list of potential surprises at OC, because I'm not so sure anymore that Doman really has an inside leg--if any of these guys applied, I think they'd get it over Doman:



Chad Morris

Josh Heupel (okay, so thats a LOOOONG shot)

Steve Shankweiler (a good character fit too, with his experience at the Citadel)





But the one I really think has a chance (and the one I personally hope gets the nod)? Bob Bostad, who is also the only one I know has interest, and is someone Bronco has worked with in the past in his time at New Mexico when Bostad was the OLine coach there. I drool to think of what Bostad could do with our talent.
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jonnylingo
snoscythe wrote:
Here's my list of potential surprises at OC, because I'm not so sure anymore that Doman really has an inside leg--if any of these guys applied, I think they'd get it over Doman:



Chad Morris

Josh Heupel (okay, so thats a LOOOONG shot)

Steve Shankweiler (a good character fit too, with his experience at the Citadel)





But the one I really think has a chance (and the one I personally hope gets the nod)? Bob Bostad, who is also the only one I know has interest, and is someone Bronco has worked with in the past in his time at New Mexico when Bostad was the OLine coach there. I drool to think of what Bostad could do with our talent.


Do you mind giving us some more information on these guys. I haven't heard of any of them and i am too lazy to look into it.



Morris is the OC at Tulsa, Josh Heupel is a prodigy--currently QB coach and co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma, and Shankweiler is the OC at USF right now, last year at ECU and formerly at the Citadel. I started a new thread on Bostad.
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mraven
Here's my bold prediction:



Lance Reynolds becomes OC for the next two or three years until his last son graduates, at which time he will retire. During this time, Brandon Doman continues to be the QB coach, but also shares OC responsibilities with Reynolds, allowing him to get the experience he needs to take over and excel at the position when Reynolds retires.



OK, so this is partially TIC, but it wouldn't shock me if it happened. We need to keep Doman, but is he ready for the job? Dangling this carrot will keep him around and allow him to get ready. Is it going to happen? Probably not . . . but it wouldn't be a BOLD prediction otherwise. ;)
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mraven wrote:
Here's my bold prediction:



Lance Reynolds becomes OC for the next two or three years until his last son graduates, at which time he will retire. During this time, Brandon Doman continues to be the QB coach, but also shares OC responsibilities with Reynolds, allowing him to get the experience he needs to take over and excel at the position when Reynolds retires.



OK, so this is partially TIC, but it wouldn't shock me if it happened. We need to keep Doman, but is he ready for the job? Dangling this carrot will keep him around and allow him to get ready. Is it going to happen? Probably not . . . but it wouldn't be a BOLD prediction otherwise. ;)


Reynolds has already been the OC and couldn't hack it, he knows it and the administration know it. Luckily for us, he's content to be the RB coach.



I'm very intrigued by Sno's comments on Bostad. I'd like to learn more about that.
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jonnylingo
jonnylingo wrote:
Here's my list of potential surprises at OC, because I'm not so sure anymore that Doman really has an inside leg--if any of these guys applied, I think they'd get it over Doman:



Chad Morris

Josh Heupel (okay, so thats a LOOOONG shot)

Steve Shankweiler (a good character fit too, with his experience at the Citadel)





But the one I really think has a chance (and the one I personally hope gets the nod)? Bob Bostad, who is also the only one I know has interest, and is someone Bronco has worked with in the past in his time at New Mexico when Bostad was the OLine coach there. I drool to think of what Bostad could do with our talent.


Do you mind giving us some more information on these guys. I haven't heard of any of them and i am too lazy to look into it.



Morris is the OC at Tulsa, Josh Heupel is a prodigy--currently QB coach and co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma, and Shankweiler is the OC at USF right now, last year at ECU and formerly at the Citadel. I started a new thread on Bostad.


Thanks. So is your main problem with doman over these guys experience as an actual coordinator? A little less of an unkown. Do they run similar offenses to the one that we are currently running or do we start from scratch with these guys?
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snoscythe
jonnylingo wrote:
snoscythe wrote:
Here's my list of potential surprises at OC, because I'm not so sure anymore that Doman really has an inside leg--if any of these guys applied, I think they'd get it over Doman:



Chad Morris

Josh Heupel (okay, so thats a LOOOONG shot)

Steve Shankweiler (a good character fit too, with his experience at the Citadel)





But the one I really think has a chance (and the one I personally hope gets the nod)? Bob Bostad, who is also the only one I know has interest, and is someone Bronco has worked with in the past in his time at New Mexico when Bostad was the OLine coach there. I drool to think of what Bostad could do with our talent.


Do you mind giving us some more information on these guys. I haven't heard of any of them and i am too lazy to look into it.



Morris is the OC at Tulsa, Josh Heupel is a prodigy--currently QB coach and co-offensive coordinator at Oklahoma, and Shankweiler is the OC at USF right now, last year at ECU and formerly at the Citadel. I started a new thread on Bostad.


Thanks. So is your main problem with doman over these guys experience as an actual coordinator? A little less of an unkown. Do they run similar offenses to the one that we are currently running or do we start from scratch with these guys?


Most of these run similar balanced offenses to what BYU has run the past few seasons under Anae. Morris run a more pass-happy offense than what I think BYU needs, but I think that would change if he got out from under Kragthorpe. People who think BYU is going to get pass-happy need to step back a bit and look at the talent we have log-jamming at RB for the next little while. If we ever want a chance at a BCS bowl game or a championship, balance will be what gets us there. I think that's why Bronco might be looking for someone more seasoned than Doman who has only worked the quarterback position since high school. The big issue with Doman is just that--he has never worked with blocking schemes, run game planning or even with the receivers. His resume is pretty one-dimensional. The wildcard with Doman would be his amount of involvement in game-planning the last 6 weeks of this season.



What I would like to see is one of the above mentioned guys come on as the offensive coordinator, and make Doman a pass-game coordinator where he would have a seat at the planning table. Morris, Heupel and Bostad likely wouldn't be career guys at BYU--if successful here, they would jump at money somewhere else. Shankweiler is approaching retirement soon. So, with any of these hires, Bronco gets someone who has proven ability to do the entire job who can serve as a mentor for Doman to learn all the other facets of offensive coordination and game-planning.
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scott715
It is not a bad idea to have another awesome OC mentor Doman for the position in a few years. Diversity of experiences would only make him better when he gets his chance.
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Lawboy
OC has 2 main roles. The first is game planning the scheme from week to week for each opponent and getting the team ready to execute it. The 2nd part is the actual execution of the game plan with the play calling during the game. Doman has been in in part 1 for a few years now, but more so this season. What he has no experience is part 2, which is also the part many fans thought Anae lacked in. It is a tough job for sure, but I think Doman has the skills due to his experience as a BYU QB who read games well and audibled, his time with the 49ers, and his years coaching. The job he pulled getting Heaps from his form in the USU game to the UTEP game is also remarkable. I think he has the chops to do it.
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snoscythe
FWIW, since I posted who I thought we should look for outside of the box, Heupel has been promoted at OU to actually calling plays (he called the plays in the Fiesta Bowl), and Morris has been hired as OC at Clemson. Bostad will be moving soon also.



The fact that Doman beat out some very qualified people, a couple of whom expressed interest in the BYU job speaks volumes for what Bronco has seen in Doman in the offices, practices, and games, because on a straight resume, Doman wouldn't have this job. But it's all of that--what happens at the personal level that makes all the difference at the college level.
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Lawboy
I have another prediction--Chad Lewis to coach the TE's. Talked to his brother yesterday and he as very evasive about questions about Chad, only saying that when Chad took the job in he BYU AD, he told them he was bringing his cleats with him...



So that just leaves the WR spot up in the air, and that is up to Higgins at this point. The timing, anyway.
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