The future of BYU bball, by position

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Thanks to Greg Rose (bro of mike, nephew of dave) for this awesome spreadsheet

craigoscarson wrote:
Thanks to Greg Rose (bro of mike, nephew of dave) for this awesome spreadsheet

And thanks to you, Craig, for bringing it to our attention.

Very nicely organized...lets hope we see more 3 and 4 star recruits filling up the empty scholarships!

One of the guys BYU is looking at is a 5'11" guard named Dantley Walker from Lincoln County H.S. in Nevada. Dantley is an extremely skilled player, but maybe just a bit short for BYU to take. Utah State, however, seems to be more interested in Dantley. This kid dropped in 62 points last night in a single overtime game, which Lincoln won.



Walker can do it all, he's a great 3pt shooter, can drive, a great passer, and rebounds well for his size. It'll be interesting to see if BYU offers him...but this kid can play.

bball wrote:
One of the guys BYU is looking at is a 5'11" guard named Dantley Walker from Lincoln County H.S. in Nevada. Dantley is an extremely skilled player, but maybe just a bit short for BYU to take. Utah State, however, seems to be more interested in Dantley. This kid dropped in 62 points last night in a single overtime game, which Lincoln won.



Walker can do it all, he's a great 3pt shooter, can drive, a great passer, and rebounds well for his size. It'll be interesting to see if BYU offers him...but this kid can play.

Sounds like a Wink Adams type that would be nice to have. The problem is we dont' have any more scholarships available for the class of 2011. I know a little about him, but I dont' recall if he's a senior or not.



Here's my one critique of Dave Rose's recruiting. He's too nice to the martineaus and zylstras of the world. They certainly work hard in practice, are good students BUT they dont' really bring enough to the hoops end to make it worth giving up a scholarship to a Jared Smoot, Viko Nomaeea, or even a JUCO 4-5 to help this team with depth.



If KC decides against a mission (I think he'll serve) then Coach Rose might have to have a heart to heart with Zylstra and tell him that his 2 year run of free college is over.

even if it needs to happen, do you really see Rose yanking a scholarship simply because you aren't good enough? HARSH

CougarClaw wrote:
even if it needs to happen, do you really see Rose yanking a scholarship simply because you aren't good enough? HARSH

I hope so. I hope that he would do everything in his power to keep us in the top 10 discussion.

BlueIsBetter wrote:

even if it needs to happen, do you really see Rose yanking a scholarship simply because you aren't good enough? HARSH

I hope so. I hope that he would do everything in his power to keep us in the top 10 discussion.

I think if we could find a JUCO 4-5 impact player that Rose needs to make either Martineau or Zylstra pay their way. The problem is finding one that's not undersized that's willing to head to BYU. The Magunsson's of the world can only get yo so far. I wonder if there are any JUCO 4-5 prospects that Rose and staff are looking at to join the team next year??

Probably not. You'll have Hartsock and Collinsworth at the 4. Davies and a combination of Harward, Anderson and Austin to man the 5. I'd be surprised if we brought in a JUCO 4-5.

kitic77 wrote:
Probably not. You'll have Hartsock and Collinsworth at the 4. Davies and a combination of Harward, Anderson and Austin to man the 5. I'd be surprised if we brought in a JUCO 4-5.

Our foul situation dictates to me that if you can replace Zylstras scholarship with a 4,5 that you do it. We need an enforcer.



Noah will be a senior

Brandon a junior

Chris a RS(medical) Soph

Anderson a senior



Harward and Austin could be both afforded redshirts, IF we find one more banger for the next 2 seasons.



It makes too much sense to me... fire out scholarships while BYU is a hot commodity because we really don't know what our stock value is once we lose Jimmer/Jax and go to the WCC. The timing is too good not to consider finding a solid rebounder, defender to fill the gap in the paint.



Our guard situation is fine, Winder, Harrison, Carlino will be with us for a good long time and I have to believe that Coach Rose passed on Dantley Walker, because he knows that 2012 grad 6'4" PG Jordan Chatman is basically a done deal.



Our 4 of the long term future is Jordan Loveridge (he's a baby-sullinger) but we need a stop gap 4 for when we lose Noah, Anderson, and Davies and while we work on our 7 foot projects in Austin and Harward.



Zylstra is not a D1 player and that scholarship needs to go to a guy that keeps this program at the level BYU needs until our young guys are ready to fly; it also maintains recruiting momentum for Nick Emery and TJ Haws... and long shot Jabari Parker.

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6-1 guard in North Carolina, being courted by all the Utah schools and potentially UNC (but I think that's lip service til they find a better talent... they do need a backup pg because they lost Larry Drew, but I don't see a white kid being the replacement as a freshman)

craigoscarson wrote:

Probably not. You'll have Hartsock and Collinsworth at the 4. Davies and a combination of Harward, Anderson and Austin to man the 5. I'd be surprised if we brought in a JUCO 4-5.

Our foul situation dictates to me that if you can replace Zylstras scholarship with a 4,5 that you do it. We need an enforcer.



Noah will be a senior

Brandon a junior

Chris a RS(medical) Soph

Anderson a senior



Harward and Austin could be both afforded redshirts, IF we find one more banger for the next 2 seasons.



It makes too much sense to me... fire out scholarships while BYU is a hot commodity because we really don't know what our stock value is once we lose Jimmer/Jax and go to the WCC. The timing is too good not to consider finding a solid rebounder, defender to fill the gap in the paint.



Our guard situation is fine, Winder, Harrison, Carlino will be with us for a good long time and I have to believe that Coach Rose passed on Dantley Walker, because he knows that 2012 grad 6'4" PG Jordan Chatman is basically a done deal.



Our 4 of the long term future is Jordan Loveridge (he's a baby-sullinger) but we need a stop gap 4 for when we lose Noah, Anderson, and Davies and while we work on our 7 foot projects in Austin and Harward.



Zylstra is not a D1 player and that scholarship needs to go to a guy that keeps this program at the level BYU needs until our young guys are ready to fly; it also maintains recruiting momentum for Nick Emery and TJ Haws... and long shot Jabari Parker.

Is Jordan Chatman LDS? Is there any new news about him?

WE got Emery and Haws. Time to update the spreadsheet.

Done!



Removed Loveridge too, unfortunately.



But Emery II and Haws II are both going to be great players for us. Looks like we have one available spot next year...Chatman is probably the top prize and I'm not sure how interested Ben Carter is in BYU, but he would be a good land as well.

Jordan Chatman and Cory Calvert?

Per Jay Drew they are most likely the ones being signed this weekend. I know I've heard the name Jordan Chatman, but don't know much about it, is this a good get? Don't know anything at all about Cory Calvert and have don't recall ever hearing the name.

Effort. Thanks. Still some few blanks left **

I noticed you had Chris Collinsworth listed as a Redshirt last year. Did he get granted a medical redshirt for last season or is that just an error?



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I also noticed Andrew White as a potential 2012 recruit. The ESPN link you have for him lists him as committed to Kansas as of 12/2/2011.



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We could probably use a 3 and 4 from the JC ranks next year (2012-2013). Especially if Harrison goes on a mission and Sharp still sucks