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More Bowl Inequality

by blue42 · 12/17/2010

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blue42
I know we all like to bash how bad the BCS is and the unfair distribution of money to other conferences, and the arrogance of the BCS morons who say they have given up enough so I was interested to see the payouts for all the bowl games and how that money was distributed to all conferences.



There are a total of 35 bowls this year that have a total payout of $267.165 million.

Take away the 5 BCS bowls and that leaves 30 bowls, total payout $97.165 million. That's right the 5 BCS bowls will payout a total of $170 million to 10 teams.

Still 30 bowls paying out over $97 million is still a lot of money..... BUT..... BCS conferences still play in 21 of those 30 bowls paying out almost $78.5 million leaving only 9 bowls for non BCS conferences to play in paying out just $18.7 million.

When you include the BCS bowls,

BCS conferences $231.5 million or 87% of all bowl money

Non BCS conferences $35.7 million 13% of all bowl money



Here is how it breaks down by conference:

CUSA: 6 bowls $5.95 million avg bowl payout $992,000

MAC: 3 bowls $2.25 million avg payout $750,000

MWC: 5 bowls $3.925 million, avg payout $785,000, 1 BCS bowl $17 million $20.925 mil total avg $3.49 million

SUN: 3 bowls $1.825 million, avg payout $608,000

WAC: 4 bowls $3.25 million, avg payout $812,000

Indy's: I didn't include ND because they are BCS, 2 bowls $1.5 million avg payout $750,000

ACC: 8 bowls $12.9 million, avg payout $1.613 1 BCS bowl $17 million total $29.9 mil avg pay $3.32 mil

Big 12: 7 bowls $15.137 million, avg pay $2.16, 1 BCS bowl $17 mil, total $32.137 mil, avg pay $4.017 mil

Big East: 5 bowls $7.2 mil, avg pay $1.44, 1 BCS bowl $17 mil, total $24.2, avg pay $4.03 mil

Big 10: 6 games $15.237 mil, avg pay $2.54, 2 BCS bowls $34 mil, total $49.24 mil, avg pay $6.15 mil

Pac 10: 2 bowls $4.425 mil, avg pay $2.21, 2 BCS bowls $34 mil, total $38.43 mil, avg pay $9.61

SEC: 8 bowls $20.275 mil, avg $2.53, 2 BCS bowls $34 mil, total $54.28 mil, avg pay $5.42 mil



so again not a very big piece going to non BCS conferences.
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BigCougsFan
Notre Dame isn't a BCS -- they have a tie in if they're ranked high enough.



Either way... Impressive work. Now I really want Mark Cuban to buy the BCS.



What a bunch of wankers!



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blue42
BigCougsFan wrote:
Notre Dame isn't a BCS -- they have a tie in if they're ranked high enough.



Either way... Impressive work. Now I really want Mark Cuban to buy the BCS.



What a bunch of wankers!



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You are correct in that Notre Dame isn't in a BCS conference and do need to finish in the top 8 I believe to play in a BCS bowl but the BCS does look at them as the 66th BCS team and has set up in the rules that Notre Dame will get $1.3 million from them each year. In fact a little FYI that I didn't know is both Army and Navy get BCS payouts of $100k each year as well. I think BYU needs to tell the BCS they need part of this as well.
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Mingjai
It's up to the bowls to make arrangements with whatever conference they choose. Each bowl is a business, and their revenue comes from sponsors, ticket sales, and TV rights. If are able to maximize their revenue by inviting the #6 Big Ten team instead of the #3 MWC team, then that's their choice. There's a reason why bowls will pay for SEC, Big Ten, or Big 12 teams--it's because their fans travel well or command decent viewership. Looking at the distribution of money, I think the non-BCS bowls are pretty efficient in dealing out their money. I don't expect bowls to make decisions based solely on schools' on-field performance--if I were the decision maker, I'd put my concern where it should be--the bottom line.



I wonder what the per team distribution would look like based on tie ins instead of actual invites. I'm guessing that the Big Ten and SEC would still dominate while the Pac 10 would be even lower. Pac 10 fans don't travel quite as well.
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Ddawg
Blue42 - one word - "Impressive!" One more word - "Dayum!" A thought - great job!!!
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imuakahuku
BTW- ND is not in a BCS conference but they are a BCS school. They have signed a contract with the BCS and receive BCS money every year regardless of whether they make a BCS game or not. So ND is a BCS team.
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Schmoe
The interesting thing: the majority of schools lose money by accepting bowl bids and only recoup it because they are in conferences where members in BCS bowls share revenue.
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blue42
Schmoe wrote:
The interesting thing: the majority of schools lose money by accepting bowl bids and only recoup it because they are in conferences where members in BCS bowls share revenue.


You know this is very interesting. What is the reason most teams lose money going to a bowl game? I know the school gets most of the payout to cover expenses the team incures and after that the rest of the money is split with the rest of the conference. The biggest thing I can think of is the school is allotted so many tickets they have to sell and the ones they don't sell the school still has to pay for them. Other than that I can't see any other expenses they would have that they wouldn't have for any other road game.



If that is the case, how has BYU done with their bowl trips? If the biggest expense is the tickets, BYU has normally sold more than their far share, so do we know has BYU been losing money, breaking even or coming out on top?
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Schmoe
A quick summation of why teams lose money:

Travel-Many teams travel not only the team, but also band, administrators, etc. This includes flights, hotels, food, etc. and many times will use up most, if not all, of the bowl payout.

Tickets allotments-Schools have to promise to buy x number of tickets at face value and most schools will not sell close to their allotment and be left to foot the bill for the ones they didn't sell.



So, why do teams go?

Prestige-it's more prestigious to play in a bowl game than to not.

Extra Practices-your team gets to practice more which is beneficial for underclassmen.

Bonuses-The school's coaches and AD's get bonuses for going to bowl games, so of course they'll send their team to the bowl, not to mention pressure from the conference to go because it makes the conference look good.
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