Deseret News Article: Recent Published Head Coach Salaries

Don't miss it. THe link is inthe little box off to the right. The same applies to assistant coach salaries. Those of you that want BYU to win the NC every other year and win a BCS bowl in the off year after playing schedules like I just saw published for the next two years or so - time to get realistic.



If 5 or 6 miracles happen and we go undefeated on eof those yeaars - we would still have to hope there aren't two undefaeated BCS teams or we would still get the shaft.



And that many miracles do not happen for anyone. Too many tough road games. Underpaid coaches. Unpaid players TIC. Too many hurdles.

to play is a nc, we have to go undefeated this year and then undefeated next year and then hope there is no undefeated sec team.

Cougarbib2 wrote:
Don't miss it. THe link is inthe little box off to the right. The same applies to assistant coach salaries. Those of you that want BYU to win the NC every other year and win a BCS bowl in the off year after playing schedules like I just saw published for the next two years or so - time to get realistic.



If 5 or 6 miracles happen and we go undefeated on eof those yeaars - we would still have to hope there aren't two undefaeated BCS teams or we would still get the shaft.



And that many miracles do not happen for anyone. Too many tough road games. Underpaid coaches. Unpaid players TIC. Too many hurdles.

Just because we don't/can't pay them the same as the big boys doesn't mean we can't get coaches that are every bit as valuable as, say, the overpaid staff that lead Texas to a 5-7 record this year, or the overpaid staff that produced a lackluster season for Florida. BYU is a different place. People come here for different reasons - athletes AND coaches. Heck, that's even true for professors - I had a CS professor that left a gig at MIT and a successful startup company to come teach at BYU for reasons that don't start with $. There are enough extremely talented and qualified people that want to be coaches at BYU and only BYU and for whom money is not an issue that we should be just fine in that regard.



The schedules for the next two years are soft, it's true. That's fine - we have a very young team that will be venturing out into the unknown world of independence, and the softness of the schedules will help them adjust. If we go undefeated in one of those years, we'll be all but guaranteed a BCS berth, though - and as an independent, we would keep all the money. (That might solve some of the salary issues we are perceived to have...) Beyond two years, you can be sure we're not going to have a schedule dominated by WAC opponents. We'll likely have one tough enough that if we go undefeated then, we'll be ranked above any other non-BCS school, and probably have a better shot at an NC than TCU had this year. I don't think it'll be an issue of 5 or 6 miracles. More like 1 or 2 good bounces in the polls and staying healthy. ESPN exposure will help with the polls, for sure.



Imagine it this way. Let's say we win every game next year except a close one at Texas. We would finish in the top 15 and likely be eligible (possibly not picked, but eligible) for a BCS bowl. We start 2012 ranked, maybe even decently. We then go on to beat 2 PAC-10 teams (Oregon State and Utah), one at home, one on the road, Notre Dame on the road, an ACC team (Georgia Tech) on the road, and Boise on the smurf turf, as well as all of our other games. I promise you that schedule is better than Boise's this year, and therefore would give us a shot at the NC. It's still subject to the vagaries of the BCS, but no more so than when we were in the MWC.

Logic fail. Dollars paid to a coach doe snot equal ability for a team to have success. good coches rise for a reason--because they are good. And if they are good when well paid, they were good when they weren;t as well paid. And by the way, just because a coach makes $5M per does not make him 5x better than a coach making $1M per.

I think this is more of a commentary on the sad state of college football under the BCS system then anything else. You are lamenting the fact that BYU has a tough schedule, obviously wishing it was a little softer. Well Boise, Utah and TCU have all proved now that having a softer schedule doesn't get you a national championship anyway so I don't understand your logic.



Secondly, like Lawboy said, a higher paid coach does not equate to a better coach. Jeff Tedford at Cal makes more than double what Bronco makes and he has just as many BCS bowls as Bronco does. And that is in a conference where you don't have to go undefeated to get into a BCS bowl game.



Here is a list of some schools that pay their coaches more then BYU:

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Central Florida, Colorado, UConn, Duke, Hawaii, Houston, Illinois, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Michigan, Ole Miss, Miss. State, North Carolina, Oregon State, Pitt, SMU, UCLA, Virginia, Wake Forest, Washington.

Are any of those schools head and shoulders above what BYU has done the last few years? In fact head to head BYU has beaten Oregon, Oregon State, Oklahoma, UCLA and Washington. Again, I don't understand your logic.

DELETE

You guys are all missing two key points.



(1) You actually have to win ALL of the games - go undefeated - to even get in a BCS Bowl at all - let alone the NC. You have probably forgotten, but we have never done that with any schedule. We have not gone undefeated since 1984 - and if you look at 1984, that schedule was not exactly filled with road games against quality teams. It included a Bowl WIN over what ended up a 6-6 Michigan team. ABSOLUTELY NOBODY has been going undefeated playing that kind of schedule - even the teams that land a better recruiting class every single year than we landed in our finest moment.



(2) Your chances of going undefeated go up dramatically if you hire coaches who have gone undefeated. It does not guarantee it. But that horrible, overpaid coach at Florida that led Utah to a BCS Bowl and Florida to a NC or two before becoming suddenly incompetent right exactly after losing Tim Tebow to the NFL amongst other players and having to rebuild was a less risky way for Florida to get those big seasons than to hire - a former player who had never been a head coach - but was a good OC. A lot of things have to come together to go undefeated against any schedule. Coaching is one of them. So it is a bit naive to hire unproven coaches and try to do go UNDEFEATED with too many tough road games and especially with a still inexperienced team.



One of you needs to post right here that really, really, really long list of QUALIFIED coaches waiting in line to come here and take us right to that NC game and do it for a fraction of what the guys who are actually going undefeated are getting paid. Put the list right here. QUALIFIED means - BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT!



Norm Chow has

Gary Crowton has

The OC at Auburn or Oregon will have done it in a few weeks

The OC at Texas has been in the hunt several times

Ohio State in the hunt several times

Florida has done it a few times

TCU this year

BSU a few times

Sorry - Utah did it a while back



Is one of those or some equally proven OC standing in line to come to Provo and do it again for say $150K as a replacement for Anae. If so - sign one of them up. I am on board. Our chances will improve. But the schedule will be our undoing - mark my words - right here. Have Craig Oscarson write it down and hold me accountable. You heard it right here. I will stand by it no matter who Bronco has calling the plays next season and no matter how many snaps Jake Heaps takes in the off-season. There is not one game that is not winnable. There are just 5 or 6 that are in the 40/60 - 50/50 - 60/40 range. We are overachievers so let's say we win 4 out of 6. Well guess what - we end up 10-2 again and playing in the Whatever Bowl. Mark my words. And if any of you think playing in Paradise, for example, in December is not a risk - go look up the time UH kicked Doman's Arse and the time they kicked Detmer's Arse in December when we were nationally ranked. Count how many shoulder separations Detmer got in the UH game and the Bowl game that followed when A&M did the same thing to us. Look at UH having us on the ropes in 1984 until the most miraculous play in BYU history saved the game and our NC season for us. I am not saying UH will beat BYU next season. I am saying BYU will lose 2 or more games including our Bowl game and our 5 toughest road games and Utah.



Here is the difference. I will be happy and most of you will not be - no matter who is calling the plays.



Go Cougs

CannonCougar85 wrote:
I think this is more of a commentary on the sad state of college football under the BCS system then anything else. You are lamenting the fact that BYU has a tough schedule, obviously wishing it was a little softer. Well Boise, Utah and TCU have all proved now that having a softer schedule doesn't get you a national championship anyway so I don't understand your logic.



Secondly, like Lawboy said, a higher paid coach does not equate to a better coach. Jeff Tedford at Cal makes more than double what Bronco makes and he has just as many BCS bowls as Bronco does. And that is in a conference where you don't have to go undefeated to get into a BCS bowl game.



Here is a list of some schools that pay their coaches more then BYU:

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Central Florida, Colorado, UConn, Duke, Hawaii, Houston, Illinois, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Michigan, Ole Miss, Miss. State, North Carolina, Oregon State, Pitt, SMU, UCLA, Virginia, Wake Forest, Washington.

Are any of those schools head and shoulders above what BYU has done the last few years? In fact head to head BYU has beaten Oregon, Oregon State, Oklahoma, UCLA and Washington. Again, I don't understand your logic.

Here is the logic you do not understand. YOu guys. Several of you - are nothappy with going 10-3 or 11-2 and beating the occasional BCS opponent, but losing to Utah, TCU, BSU, and others. SO quit listing all of the other programs that did not make it to the NC game you covet and look at how the ones that did make it - got there. So don't take the Oregon team we beat in Las Vegas - and yes, I was there and loved every minute of it - and was happy with our record that year. It is you guys tha ar enot happy with 10+ win seasons almost ever year - not me. You just don't have a clue how to get there.



Utah does. TCU does. BSU does. UH even got farther than BYU has. Some of those guys did it twice. And a very few BCS teams have gotten to the holy grail.



So, if you want to get there - steal the OC from Oregon or Auburn this year and buy the guy from PUnahou High School that stiffed BYU for ND and a couple of other guys a really nice new car. Recruit some criminals. Oregon lost their best CONVICT this season and still went undefeated.



Coaching is not the problem at BYU. It could be better. It probably won't generally be better given our constraints. THe scheduling is going to keep us just outside of the BCS Bowls - let alone a NC.



That is the logic you are missing. So be happy with 11-2 and 10-3 most years with the dream that maybe, someday, maybe we go 13-0 and hope that someone gives us a schedule that looks like the schedule of the teams that HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.

Cougarbib2 wrote:

I think this is more of a commentary on the sad state of college football under the BCS system then anything else. You are lamenting the fact that BYU has a tough schedule, obviously wishing it was a little softer. Well Boise, Utah and TCU have all proved now that having a softer schedule doesn't get you a national championship anyway so I don't understand your logic.



Secondly, like Lawboy said, a higher paid coach does not equate to a better coach. Jeff Tedford at Cal makes more than double what Bronco makes and he has just as many BCS bowls as Bronco does. And that is in a conference where you don't have to go undefeated to get into a BCS bowl game.



Here is a list of some schools that pay their coaches more then BYU:

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Central Florida, Colorado, UConn, Duke, Hawaii, Houston, Illinois, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Maryland, Michigan, Ole Miss, Miss. State, North Carolina, Oregon State, Pitt, SMU, UCLA, Virginia, Wake Forest, Washington.

Are any of those schools head and shoulders above what BYU has done the last few years? In fact head to head BYU has beaten Oregon, Oregon State, Oklahoma, UCLA and Washington. Again, I don't understand your logic.

Here is the logic you do not understand. YOu guys. Several of you - are nothappy with going 10-3 or 11-2 and beating the occasional BCS opponent, but losing to Utah, TCU, BSU, and others. SO quit listing all of the other programs that did not make it to the NC game you covet and look at how the ones that did make it - got there. So don't take the Oregon team we beat in Las Vegas - and yes, I was there and loved every minute of it - and was happy with our record that year. It is you guys tha ar enot happy with 10 win seasons almost ever year - not me. You just don't have a clue how to get there.



Utah does. TCU does. BSU does. UH even got farther than BYU has. Some of those guys did it twice. And a very few BCS teams have gotten to the holy grail.



So, if you want to get there - steal the OC from Oregon or Auburn this year and buy the guy from PUnahou High School that stiffed BYU for ND and a couple of other guys a really nice new car. Recruit some criminals. Oregon lost their best CONVICT this season and still went undefeated.



Coaching is not the problem at BYU. It could be better. It probably won't generally be better given our constraints. THe scheduling is going to keep us just outside of the BCS Bowls - let alone a NC.



That is the logic you are missing. So be happy with 11-2 and 10-3 most years with the dream that maybe, someday, maybe we go 13-0 and hope that someone gives us a schedule that looks like the schedule of the teams that HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT.

Here is YOUR missing logic. Both Utah and TCU had to go through us to get to a BCS bowl. So having a schedule "just like they have" would still lead to a loss for us. They are both still beating teams we are losing to. Because it comes down to coaching. If we can't beat Utah or TCU with our - all time winningest QB, All time rushing leader, All time catches leader (twice), All time receiving yards leader, All time receiving for a TE, and several NFL caliber lineman - ON THE FIELD AT THE SAME TIME than what the hell else does it come down to?



And if you are going to say "scheduling" - what year do you think I am referring to? 2008 we had all these guys on the field at the same time.



Northern Iowa (D 1AA school - win/loss non transferable)

Washington (0-12)

UCLA (4-8)

Wyoming (4-8, 1-7 in conference)

Utah State (3-9)

New Mexico (4-8, 2-6 in the conference)

TCU (10-2, 7-1 in the conference - also won bowl game)

UNLV (5-7, 2-6 in the conference)

Colorado State (6-6, 4-4 in conference - also won bowl game)

San Diego State (2-10, 1-7 in the conference)

Air Force (8-4, 5-3 in the conference - lost bowl game)

Utah (12-0, 8-0 in the conference - also won bowl game)



You can't have an easier out of conference schedule than N. Iowa, an 0-12 Washington, and Utah State. And as far as in conference goes, the MWC has some of the worst teams in the nation. Especially back in 2008, they were terrible. BYU's opponents had an overall record of 58-66. Not exactly murderer's row. Tell me how to have an easier schedule than that (as a member of a conference) than BYU did in 2008. BYU lost to 2 out of 4 teams that were bowl eligible! BYU was 1 for 3 against teams with a winning record!



How does this not come down to coaching when you have the players listed above, and you are supposed to be on par with (or better) than the teams you are playing? And BYU has out-recruited Utah and TCU for decades according to any ranking agency out there. So I ask again - what else is there? What else could it possibly be other than coaching?













honestly....

If you can avoid being blinded by hypothetical stars assigned to 18 year old kids and look at who is putting players in the NFL every single year - we have not out recruited TCU and Utah every year.



Don't get me wrong. I don't think we have a NC caliber coaching staff. We have a 10+ wins against a mediocre schedule staff.



I am just pointing out how naive it is to assume that promoting Doman to OC with no OC experience is certain to catapult us to that level straight away - with no doubts.



And my main point, especially to the poster above who referred to our schedule the next two years as being soft - yeah - why don't we beef up the schedule when we can't even go undefeated in MWC play with any regularity.



We totally agree. BYU is not good enough to do that regularly. Only TCU is - and I remember beating them un their crib un 2007 when they were ranked 15. It seems like we beat them again after that. It seems like we came within 1 point at one point in time.



But yes - TCU has had a Top 5 team the past two years led by a very experienced QB who can run and throw - but mainly due to a smothering defense that gas been better than BYU ever has had.



Our offense has not measured up to theirs for two years - but the difference is even wider on defense. And it amazes me how many people think firing Anae is the answer to our NC Quest.



I wish we were that good and I wish it were that simple.



We were and are a mid-major and about the 4th best one lately. That does not win the NC. Two got promoted. Now we are the 2nd best mid-major which also dies not win NCs.



But keep playing a 2008 type schedule and every five years or so maybe we get a BCS Bowl. Keep playing 2011 type scheduled and we will never see a BCS Bowl.



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Cougarbib2 wrote:
If you can avoid being blinded by hypothetical stars assigned to 18 year old kids and look at who is putting players in the NFL every single year - we have not out recruited TCU and Utah every year.

And if you can avoid looking at the $5 price tag, a subway sandwich is free. We have out-recruited them according to every major national agency since the 1990's, with only maybe one or two years' exception.

Cougarbib2 wrote:
Don't get me wrong. I don't think we have a NC caliber coaching staff. We have a 10 wins against a mediocre schedule staff.



I am just pointing out how naive it is to assume that promoting Doman to OC with no OC experience is certain to catapult us to that level straight away - with no doubts.

agreed and agreed. Obviously we don't want to pull the first guy in off the street... I don't get why anyone jumps to that conclusion. I just don't think that Anae is our best option handling personnel or calling plays anymore. There are better options, and BYU has more money to spend... so just get it done, cougs!

Cougarbib2 wrote:
And my main point, especially to the poster above who referred to our schedule the next two years as being soft - yeah - why don't we beef up the schedule when we can't even go undefeated in MWC play with any regularity.

I never said that. Our 2008 schedule was super-soft. We can get it done regularly in the MWC. But we can't get it done against teams with superior coaching staffs - TCU and Utah



Their player development skills, coaching, and gameplan strategies/adjustments have beaten our superior talent that we bring in.

Cougarbib2 wrote:
We totally agree. BYU is not good enough to do that regularly. Only TCU is - and I remember beating them un their crib un 2007 when they were ranked 15. It seems like we beat them again after that. It seems like we came within 1 point at one point in time.

No we don't. This is where we disagree most. BYU SHOULD be good enough to beat them regularly. We get in better talent than they do, they just are better at making personnel decisions and gameplanning around that. TCU's model is to get fast athletes, and teach them how to play positions. Utah has followed suit the last 3-4 years. We get better players, and make them slower. That comes down to coaching.



And it was 2006 that TCU was ranked 15th. We won them by 14. And we beat them in 2007 when they weren't ranked by five points. Since then they have gone to beat us by 25, 31, and 28. In the last 5 years, they have outscored us 140 to 75. And in the last 3 years it has been 101-17. That you - or anyone - can stand by our coaches performance against TCU, or in comparison with what they have accomplished is unbelievable.

Cougarbib2 wrote:
But yes - TCU has had a Top 5 team the past two years led by a very experienced QB who can run and throw - but mainly due to a smothering defense that gas been better than BYU ever has had.

A defense that is better than BYU has ever had? I'll give you that maybe... But while getting less talent? How does that happen? Could it have anything to do with coaching strategies and personnel decisions?

Cougarbib2 wrote:
Our offense has not measured up to theirs for two years - but the difference is even wider on defense. And it amazes me how many people think firing Anae is the answer to our NC Quest.

Right, and what happened to our defensive coach this year? Oh yeah, he got fired. And for the record, since Bronco took over, our defense has been just as good as TCU's. But, yeah, you're right it couldn't have anything to do with coaching that their offense has skyrocketed past ours the last 3 years...



Moving past Anae isn't the only step, it is just the next step in the NC quest.

Cougarbib2 wrote:

But keep playing a 2008 type schedule and every five years or so maybe we get a BCS Bowl.

Not with the coaches we have - The super-loaded NFL talent we had, mixed with the horrifically soft schedule proved that. All we had to do is beat 2 teams that we should be on par with, if not much better than.















*** DISCLAIMER: *** When I say "coaching" I am not talking about getting rid of Bronco. Bronco's main coaching flaw is that he has been letting inept coaches run the show for too long, in my opinion. If Bronco ruled with an iron fist, a la Patterson or Whitt, things would be a lot different for us now. If Bronco could run the offense, defense, and the team at the same time the last 4 years we would be looking at a few BCS bowls, probably a win, and have an outside chance of a NC slot, with at least a legitimate case for one.

2006 should have been a BCS Bowl year. Maybe 2007 as well. TCU was better than us in 2008, 2009 and 2010. But we will peak again soon, and need to be ready when it happens.

Lawboy wrote:
2006 should have been a BCS Bowl year. Maybe 2007 as well. TCU was better than us in 2008, 2009 and 2010. But we will peak again soon, and need to be ready when it happens.

TCU is off the schedule for now. We have some other teams to play. Better quit over scheduling or we will never see a BCS Bowl. I don't have too much of a problem with who we play next season. I have a really big problem of who we keep agreeing to play on the road with never a homer in return. We won't lose all of those - maybe not half - but running the table in games on the road vs teams thast are even close to even - you get whacked in a few of them. It can even happen at USU in an off year. It has happened at UH at least twice in great years and could not have come any closer to happening in a 3rd time in 1984.



For the millionth time - I have NEVER been a big RObert Anae fan - have thought he was stubborn from Day 1. I just want to hear the name of someon who has proven themself a better OC and wants to come to Provo for $150K before I jump on the bandwagon that a new play caller is going to catapult BYU to the next level.



And SORRY - NAME 1 head coach that coaches both the Offense and the Defense. And keep in mind that Bronco has been quoted this very season as saying he does not know much about offense.



If you want to go undefeated - SOON - maybe we grab KWhitt - Proven he can do it and get his OC from ONE of th eTIMES he did do it - and keep DOman since he is the best QB coach in the country - and have Bronco coach the defense and dump a positoin coach or two and go try to getit done. We still do not have the talent (experienced enough) to do it next year and there are 25-30 teams that out recruit us every single year to contend with - but maybe our chances get better if we schedule in a way conducive to success.



Go Cougs

PS maybe KWhitt might turn us down again so anybody got another PROVEN HC that has gone undefeated a time or two. Oh BSU or TCU do have one.

REDNECKJEDI is the one that thinks our schedule is soft the next couple of years. We will see. Expect 2 or more losses no matter who is calling the plays next year. I have gone on record and fully expect to be held accountable.

This thread is giving me a headache.... and I'm not going to make it any better as my reply will be just as disjointed.



Personally, my opinion is that next year a double digit win season would be a qualified success and that the BCS will be out of reach simply because the schedule is front loaded and we're still going to be young and inexperienced.



Of the 119 (or w/e the number is now) only a small group have ever been to BCS bowl games. Our chances aren't any more or less improved by watering down the schedule (a more watered down schedule probably precludes even an undefeated BYU team from getting a BCS game), or joining say the Big 12 (where the schedule would be more difficult that this one).



The schedule we have right now is good enough to get us a BCS game if we go undefeated and it's also good enough to get the attention of the Big 12 if we succeed with it (success doesn't have to mean undefeated).



It was not going to be an ideal schedule, and how could it be with us going Indy and forcing Tom Holmoe to figure it out on the fly. In retrospect, I think he did a decent job.



I don't know if Anae is the guy for us and I dont' know what Doman could do at the helm of the O. My belief is that Anae will get his chance next season and if the offense falters at all, Doman will get his shot to prove he can handle it.



I personally disagree though with the thought that paying coaches more unequivocably equals undefeated seasons. It takes some luck too. Boise State wasn't any less coached this year than last; but they had some bad luck against Nevada. Bama does not have less talent this year than last (for goodness sake they returned the Heisman trophy winner) BUT they lost 2 games this year that they could have won. It happens.



You can also pay more for Charlie Weis, Rich Rod, Rick Neuheisal, Lane Kiffen, Tyrone Willingham, etc. We see how that's gone.

Then there's the Gary Pinkels, Gene Chiziks of the world that came from different paths to success to build top notch teams at a much lower initial price.



(auburn wasn't just a little upset with the initial hire of chizik)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7TxIMAwc1k

BYU has a good thing with Bronco and we've already seen that there's a point in which he'll fire an unproductive coach, irrespective of tenure or former success. Anae's leash is a lot shorter than I think we actually see and Broncos praise of Doman shows that.



If you think money in itself buys BCS worthy records, then I suggest we join the Big East or we find out if Cecil Newton has another son and needs another church built (we are THE church building organization)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULWj5KcgSZw

The only relevant point about the money is - that when there is someone that you decide you want - you have to hire them. I just roll my eyes every time over the years people start making their BYU coach list and one by one they take their name out of the hat including Norm Chow. Even Norm Chow turned us down. Even Kwhitt turned us down. A lot of people thought Andy Reid would leave the Eagles in his heyday.



That is my point. I like Bronco. I hope he stays forever. He fits BYU. And, he continues to learn.



I am just pointing out to the more naive posters, that when Florida wanted to get back to glory fast, they decided who they wanted, got someone who just went undefeated the prior year and was hot, more than doubled his pay, got The Urban Dude and a NC or two right away. And now - they will go get whomever is red hot now.



I am bit suggesting BYU do that. But we may need to rein in our fine wine expectations give our beer belly budget and realize that the coach who has never done it before is nit automatically an upgrade. Might be - but a gamble.



It is easy to gamble when in the shambles post Crowton. But right now we have a lot at stake and a mid-step could waste a golden opportunity.



BTW - we go undefeated we go BCS bowling unless there are other non BCS undefeated that played tougher schedules. So get home and away with BSU every year and keep the rest manageable. The BCS just made the path easier by folding Utah and TCU into BCS conferences.



Just win baby!



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I think money is a non-issue right now. BYU wants to hire someone they will make it happen. Fans can make their wish-lights of hires, but I haven't seen any unreasonable requests. Doman for OC makes financial sense. Cahoon to WR coach works financially, Chad Lewis and Ty Detmer both seem like they'd be willing to work for whatever we offer. There really haven't been a lot of other suggestions or anything. The money issue should be considered closed, in my opinion.

Hawk



You missed the point. I totally agree that money will not be an issue for BYU to hire those guys. And money was not an issue to hire pretty much everyone else we have or have had. When you are willing to hire UNPROVEN coaches, money will never be an issue unless after they do prove themselves, they don't want to be in Provo badly enough to pass up double or triple the money elsewhere. And if they never quite prove themselves, like some posters on CC assert about most of the ones we have now, well then you get to keep them forever.



For the trillionth time, although I am not an Anae fan, I don't want to replace him with an unproven OC at this time - not when a miscalculation could blow our season now that Jake Heaps has experience, and is starting to look like he belongs on the field.



Mars posted a list of 6 or so coaches that might be gone next year. If we really have 6 coaches that should be gone next year and they are so bad that we would replace them with unproven coaches - then Bronco should not be trusted to figure out who will be better.



Now if they are B or B+ and someone wants to pony up some dough and go get proven A+, A, guys. I am on board. I just think that list is very short or empty and will be expensive for the few that might be out there.



Muscamp at Texas as DC, for example made what Bronco makes as HC at BYU.



But Bronco loves BYU and hopefully will stay and I, apologizing in advance to those who won't, will continue to support all coaches he chooses to keep on staff.



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