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Ansah

by BYULV · 11/8/2010

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BYULV
I notice he got in to the game near the end. He got one tipped pass and seemed to get into the backfield easily. He looked very tall and fast. I love the story of this guy. Does anyone have any more details about him and how he did or how he has been developing?



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byutx
I failed to notice this-when during the game was it? TIA
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YBrit
byutx wrote:
I failed to notice this-when during the game was it? TIA




The entire fourth quarter right? I saw his qb hurry, and got credit for a sack I thought.
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jonnylingo
We were watching him intently. He was playing on special teams and d end. he is a beast. he was getting a lot of pressure on the qb. He came real close to having a few sacks. was fun to watch him.



i heard he tried out for the bball team and made the second to last cuts.
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craigoscarson
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.
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I looked him up on the teams roster and it says Sophomore, I am guessing he has 3 to play 3. He was fun to watch there at the end, lots of raw ability, hopefully he can be a nice contributor...

EDIT: The latest stat sheet lists him with 1 unassisted tackle and 1 pass breakup.
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beauso79
Why not RED-SHIRT the guy if he needs more experience?? Maybe by his Senior year he'll have enough experience to be a full-time monster at DE
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imuakahuku
craigoscarson wrote:
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.


Jason Buck was a QB at Ricks and look at what he did when he xfered to the Y.
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BYULV
imuakahuku wrote:
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.


Jason Buck was a QB at Ricks and look at what he did when he xfered to the Y.


The difference I think is that Ansah has no previous football experience, just physical tools. Seems like he is picking it up pretty quick. How long does it take to really catch on to DE skills, mastery? I really have no idea about that position.



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tww
BYULV wrote:
craigoscarson wrote:
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.


Jason Buck was a QB at Ricks and look at what he did when he xfered to the Y.


The difference I think is that Ansah has no previous football experience, just physical tools. Seems like he is picking it up pretty quick. How long does it take to really catch on to DE skills, mastery? I really have no idea about that position.



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I think the answer to that question is "it depends." We know he has speed and size but to master the pass rush depends on hand work and agility as well. I think the hardest part will be learning to read an offense. It also depends on how complex the assignments are that are required of him. If he only has to rush on pass plays or hold his ground on run plays it shouldn't take him very long but if it is more than that I don't think anyone knows.



It will be fun to see though.
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craigoscarson
imuakahuku wrote:
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.


Jason Buck was a QB at Ricks and look at what he did when he xfered to the Y.


Ansah had never even seen the game; Buck had played defense before and grew up on football.



I never played DE; was OLB/safety and wr/te in high school, but my concern with Ansah never playing is his footwork, his hands, and being sound in decision making when it's not an obvious pass rushing down; these all take quite a bit of experience to master. He has no idea what he's seeing which takes a lot of experience. Defensive end isn't a mindless position where they just go every down, they have to know when to keep containment, when to slow play a qb on the option, and to recognize screen vs run vs pass.



However, he has the size and speed that on obvious pass rushing plays (3rd and long) and special teams, that he could be very dangerous. He's strong and tall enough to bull rush the middle on field goal defense; and certainly can be taught to block and go get the returner on kickoffs and punts.



Maybe if he really takes football serious that by his senior year he could compete as an every down guy, but he has some tools that could be utilized before that, and obvious pass rushing downs seems like a no brainer, particularly because we don't happen to have many pass rushing specialists right now.



In a couple of years though our pass rush could be devastating with Fua, VanNoy, and Ansah.
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BroncoBot
What number is he? I've been wondering if he was going to see the field this year. Good to hear he was effective when he got minutes, even if it was in garbage time.
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scott715
73 I think
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jonnylingo
scott715 wrote:
73 I think


i thought it was 74.
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SpiffCoug
jonnylingo wrote:
73 I think


i thought it was 74.

Pretty sure it was 75. ;)
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Schmoe
kitic77 wrote:
scott715 wrote:
73 I think


i thought it was 74.

Pretty sure it was 75. ;)


76?
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Y 4 Ever
kitic77 wrote:
scott715 wrote:
73 I think


i thought it was 74.

Pretty sure it was 75. ;)


You guys sound like me and my wife arguing about what day of the month our anniversary is (note: we were both wrong)
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Brayden Green
tww wrote:
imuakahuku wrote:
It was current BYU players that made this happen. They knew that Ansah had all the physical tools to be dominant, just no experience.



I think next year, you'll see him blowing people up on special teams and on obvious pass rushing downs. He's probably too inexperienced to ever be a full time DE.



What I'm not sure about is his eligibility.. I've heard 3 to play 3, I've heard 3 to play 2.


Jason Buck was a QB at Ricks and look at what he did when he xfered to the Y.


The difference I think is that Ansah has no previous football experience, just physical tools. Seems like he is picking it up pretty quick. How long does it take to really catch on to DE skills, mastery? I really have no idea about that position.



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I think the answer to that question is "it depends." We know he has speed and size but to master the pass rush depends on hand work and agility as well. I think the hardest part will be learning to read an offense. It also depends on how complex the assignments are that are required of him. If he only has to rush on pass plays or hold his ground on run plays it shouldn't take him very long but if it is more than that I don't think anyone knows.


It is very hard in a 3-4. Or a lot harder than normal. In a 4-3, your job is to basically hit the qb every play, and not get puleed one way or the other (on a run to the outside like a sweep, the Olineman will step to the outside, and push you inside, and vice versa for runs ). Unless you gut "set" on an edge, you know it is a pass play. So most of the time you just pin your ears back and go, unless the lineman in front of you is doing something weird. You also have a lot more one on one battles in a 4-3.



In a 3-4, you have to read the lineman across from you very carefully (watch his knuckles and posture, to see if he is leaned back, or hunching forward to drive you) and watch that you don't get pushed-pulled. It also depends pn weakside vs strongside, etc. there are a lot more variables, and you get doubleteamed almost every single play.



So yeah... If he can do it mentally he would have a chance, but we'll see...
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