Another interesting article

declocoug wrote:
I didn't read the article, but don't feel like it's worth my time if your synopsis is right. Someone is getting paid to write about something he/she knows nothing about.

PoppingasAP wrote:
A couple of thoughts:



1) We suck because our coach doesn't swear?

I don't think so. The author makes it look like we don't practice hard because our coach doesn't swear and swearing = intensity. One of my professors once said the only reason people swear is because their vocabulary is so limited that they can't express themselves intelligently. That would explain the typical Ute.

Your thoughts?



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True Cougars fans will be pulling for the Utes this Saturday, in hopes of reserving for themselves the pleasure of ruining Utah's perfect season

Utah fans got less upsetabout that rant than they did about a self-righteous pronouncement by Cougars receiver Austin Collie following BYU's last-minute 17--10 victory over the Utes in 2007. "When you're doing what's right, on and off the field," Collie proclaimed, "the Lord steps in and plays a part."

Usually. On a recent visit some of the grandchildren got bored and started racing each other across the perfectly manicured lawns. "It was O.K., I suppose," Nancy concludes. "I'm sure Fred didn't mind. There weren't many other people around. And it's not like they were going to wake the dead."



Before long, some of the adults joined in—Race you to that headstone!—including one who is in the process of awakening a giant

Lawboy wrote:
I agree with the assertion that BYU practices were less intense than Utah's, based upon the recruits interviewed and when they attended practice. Were being the key part. BYU has been known for shorter, less intense practices for a while now. They hit less, go in shells more. Until 4 weeks ago that is. Bronco FINALLY raised the intenisty level of his practices. FINALLY. So that part wrung pretty true, based upon the timing of what was viewed. Geeze, even teh players asked for longer more intense practices a couple years back before the LV Bowl. I just hope Bronco keeps this appraoch up, because it is helping his team gt better.

1967cougar wrote:
That was very hard to read. But if Obama could sell his line of shizz to so many Americans two years ago, I guess an envious, devious, piece-of-crap writer for SI can try to do the same. They both get stuck with the stink.

BTIB wrote:
I think it is factual in that it was the right choice for Wittingham.

Mars wrote:

I think it is factual in that it was the right choice for Wittingham.

IMO, the choice Kyle made says a lot about who Kyle is. Basically, he had a chance to either work FOR the Church or to work AGAINST it. And he seems to relish his job.

Cougarfan87 wrote:
I'm guessing he didn't quite see it in that light. Perhaps he thought, well I can make more money, and thus pay more tithing, and be able to be a good influence on many more non-members than I otherwise would at my alma mater. I have been working here for a while. This team isn't in the dumps (like BYU was at the time). I like Salt Lake. Etc. Etc.

Cougarfan87 wrote:

BTIB wrote:
I think it is factual in that it was the right choice for Wittingham.

IMO, the choice Kyle made says a lot about who Kyle is. Basically, he had a chance to either work FOR the Church or to work AGAINST it. And he seems to relish his job.

I'm guessing he didn't quite see it in that light. Perhaps he thought, well I can make more money, and thus pay more tithing, and be able to be a good influence on many more non-members than I otherwise would at my alma mater. I have been working here for a while. This team isn't in the dumps (like BYU was at the time). I like Salt Lake. Etc. Etc.



I once thought I wanted to become a full time seminary teacher. I took the classes at BYU to teach seminary, went through my seven day teaching experience, and promptly decided that I wanted to do something else. Does that mean that I did not want to work for the church or that I wanted to work against it? I don't think so. There are many opportunities to do good in the world that are outside of working for BYU or the church for your occupation. KWitt made his choice. I think he is happy with it. Frankly, it doesn't make him a bad person or anti the church. In fact, many of the Church leaders went to that same school, and it is filled with LDS kids.



I guess I am just not following your argument.

Mars wrote:

I'm guessing he didn't quite see it in that light. Perhaps he thought, well I can make more money, and thus pay more tithing, and be able to be a good influence on many more non-members than I otherwise would at my alma mater. I have been working here for a while. This team isn't in the dumps (like BYU was at the time). I like Salt Lake. Etc. Etc.

I'm sure there are a thousand ways to justify just about any decision you want to make in life. Doesn't make some decisions right.



Personally, I not a very moderate guy. Austin Collie's decision to ditch BYU and his coaches and teammates early for some money, for example. I tend to have opinions on the extreme end of things. And I think that God is the same way. To him, there's only one right way.



Hey, the day I got married, I didn't even plan on getting a divorce if things didn't work out perfectly, so I'm not like the majority of people.

Cougarfan87 wrote:
Agreed that you are extreme. Recognition is the first step. ;)



Disagree that God is extreme. The adversary is extreme. While there is only one true gospel, God judges each according to their knowledge and understanding while here on earth...not a bright line standard that you either lived it or you didn't. The question is, according to your light and knowledge, did you live the way you should have? If you did, and you accepted the Savior through covenants, and repented when you failed, you are redeemed. More condemning for those with more knowledge who don't repent. Less so for those with less knowledge. That seems to me much more just, merciful, and moderate. But maybe we are just looking at the same thing from two different perspectives.