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Our Offensive Strategy Going Forward

by byucougar1 · 10/19/2010

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byucougar1
Coach Mendenhall indicated that the Offense was beginning to find its identity in the 3rd quarter of the TCU game. He stated, "You saw glimpses in that third quarter with Bryan Kariya running the ball hard and some play-action passes coming off of it. That, to me, is going to be the identity of where we need to go and that will be the identity that I hang my hat on.”



Sounds like we will see more power running up the middle from Kariya and Juice with lots of short passes going to RB - possibly TE/WR (if they can get open and hold onto the ball). Nothing wrong with this approach as it plays to our strength (strong OL pushing forward - clearing out a path).



We have four games to master this approach and hopefully be on all cylinders by the time we face Yewts.
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byucougar1
BTW with Chambers being suspended for the rest of the season, I wonder if Drew Phillips steps into his position on KO/punt returns/WR. Logan states that this kid can really play and is as fast as anyone he has faced in his career. I'd love to see him getting swing passess and turning them into long gains.
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byucougar1
Sounds like we will see a greater distribution of the ball to multiple players given the context of Mendenhall's statement,



"...the offense needs to have multiple players involved in order to be successful. "When our offense has been best over the past four years, a lot of different players have handled the football -- not only in the run game, but in the pass game. Right now, that isn't happening."



Also sounds like the biggest problem with the O, according to BM, is not the play calling but the execution.



Mendenhall said, "...To me, it's not so much a matter of what we're calling, its simply the continued focus on the execution ... I think our coaches are giving this particular team currently what they can have their best chance to execute. So yes, I was fine with (the play-calling)."
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YBrit
The strategy will be based on Anae's mood and pride, Bronco has nothing to do with Offense as he admitted. Plus if he really was focused on execution he'd bench Luke Ashworth for drops drops drops.
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IndiCoug
I think the strategy going forward is Heaps needs a little ear piece that Doman is on the other end of giving Heaps another option for the play.....aka not Anae play :evil:

BTW, I'm a huge Phillips fan but I think it would be to "Radical" for Anae/Bronco to pull that trigger. Remember, Bronco really like those that earn there spot :roll: (22 td's against the #1 defense). He just might catch some balls and show up some Junior/Senors and we couldn't have that. :bug:
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Mars


My question:



Through the first 5 games of the season, JJ DiLuigi was, without a doubt, BYU's best playmaker. But his running style doesn't seem to fit very well in BYU's Power-I scheme. Will we quit using our best offensive player, to make room for more carries by Kariya, our 3rd-best back 5 games into the year? Will JJ become, for all intents and purposes, just a "backfield WR" only?



Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Team > Player.
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CannonCougar85
Mars wrote:


My question:



Through the first 5 games of the season, JJ DiLuigi was, without a doubt, BYU's best playmaker. But his running style doesn't seem to fit very well in BYU's Power-I scheme. Will we quit using our best offensive player, to make room for more carries by Kariya, our 3rd-best back 5 games into the year? Will JJ become, for all intents and purposes, just a "backfield WR" only?



Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Team > Player.


I think the running game should be adapted to the team that we play. JJ has typically been "the man" this year with one exception, TCU. It seemed that the TCU defense was just too fast for JJ to be very effective at all. 9 carries for 11 yards.



Kariya on the other hand had 4.8 yards per carry against TCU and was the leading rusher. But, as you mentioned, has been our 3rd best back in every other game. (Based off of yards per carry)



I expect JJ to return to being the #1 back statistically in our next 4 games. But based off of the TCU game it might be wise to give Kariya more carries from the I-Formation in the Utah game though.
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Cougarfan87
CannonCougar85 wrote:


My question:



Through the first 5 games of the season, JJ DiLuigi was, without a doubt, BYU's best playmaker. But his running style doesn't seem to fit very well in BYU's Power-I scheme. Will we quit using our best offensive player, to make room for more carries by Kariya, our 3rd-best back 5 games into the year? Will JJ become, for all intents and purposes, just a "backfield WR" only?



Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Team > Player.


I think the running game should be adapted to the team that we play. JJ has typically been "the man" this year with one exception, TCU. It seemed that the TCU defense was just too fast for JJ to be very effective at all. 9 carries for 11 yards.



Kariya on the other hand had 4.8 yards per carry against TCU and was the leading rusher. But, as you mentioned, has been our 3rd best back in every other game. (Based off of yards per carry)



I expect JJ to return to being the #1 back statistically in our next 4 games. But based off of the TCU game it might be wise to give Kariya more carries from the I-Formation in the Utah game though.


I agree. Against the weaker defenses, it really won't matter which running style you go with as long as we maintain possession through running and high percentage passes. Against Utah, we are going to need the power I. In fact, the Power I is beautiful because it will wear down the defense and take out some of their intensity, while it ups the intensity of the offense being able to smash them on every down. Ofcourse, receivers aren't great fans of the power I but I am not too concerned about how the receivers feel based on their inept play this year.
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byucougar1
I believe that our thoughts and observations are backed up my two other recent statements by Bronco during the weekly MWC coach's teleconference:



"...his team would be relying on the run as they continue to develop their freshman signal caller.

The strengths of our team right now seem to be the play of our offensive line, especially in the run game, and running backs that run the ball hard. That doesn't mean exclusively that is all you can do, nor does it mean that will generate enough points to win enough games. But, in terms of a starting place and a place to begin from, that is kind of where we are."



I find this quite interesting as our OL was our strength this year as were our returning RBs. Why we didn't use the Power I and allow Heaps to develop a feel for the game without putting additional pressure on him is beyond my comprehension. Oh well, better late than never.



Regarding Heaps development and how to ensure his confidence doesn't wane,



Mendenhall stated that running the ball can only help Jake Heaps.



"It is quite simple, when you are handing the ball off to an experienced player behind an experienced line, you are not having to make any decisions about what coverage, where to deliver the ball, how to read it out with linemen and blitzers coming into your face," Mendenhall said. "So, it's just a lower percentage of decisions that have to be made by a quarterback."



Again, one has to question how Anae didn't adjust the O to consider these conditions.



Going forward, I would hope that our OC adjusts to take advantage of our strengths and doesn't stubbornly ignore the thougths and opinions of his associates.
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Lawboy
I agree, and I expect to see more I formation the rest of the way. But I also expect us to run the spread as it has been our bread and butter the last 5 years,



As to JJ, he is not a between teh tackles runner. he dances too much instead of hitting the hole and going. he would be more effective if he added some power running to his game. Vs TCU, he blew easy first downs at least 2 times because he tried to take it outside instead of runing stright ahed. I think the coaches saw it, and as a result, JJ got no more chances to run up the middle--because he does not want to. I also think that Ashworth and other have seen less field this year due to drops. If you can;t make the routine simple plays your teams needs to move the chains--you sit because you can not be counted on, until you prove otherwise in practice.
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byucougar1
Given the I formation or any power running scheme, we will need to utilize players that fit this mold. Presently, I see us using more Q and Kariya in this regard with JJ catching passes out of the backfiled so he can use his open-field talent to make people miss.
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Mars
Lawboy wrote:
As to JJ, he is not a between teh tackles runner. he dances too much instead of hitting the hole and going. he would be more effective if he added some power running to his game. Vs TCU, he blew easy first downs at least 2 times because he tried to take it outside instead of runing stright ahed. I think the coaches saw it, and as a result, JJ got no more chances to run up the middle--because he does not want to.

JJ did a great job against SDSU. He even stated after the game that he did much less dancing and more straight-ahead running. Why he regressed one game later is for our offensive coaches to figure out.
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pjmuli
byucougar1 wrote:
Coach Mendenhall indicated that the Offense was beginning to find its identity in the 3rd quarter of the TCU game. He stated, "You saw glimpses in that third quarter with Bryan Kariya running the ball hard and some play-action passes coming off of it. That, to me, is going to be the identity of where we need to go and that will be the identity that I hang my hat on.”



Sounds like we will see more power running up the middle from Kariya and Juice with lots of short passes going to RB - possibly TE/WR (if they can get open and hold onto the ball). Nothing wrong with this approach as it plays to our strength (strong OL pushing forward - clearing out a path).



We have four games to master this approach and hopefully be on all cylinders by the time we face Yewts.


I know others have or will say this...but I just think this is stupid. Good coaches customize gameplans to the best talent they have in the stable. Kariya is NOT the best talent on the offensive side of the ball.



Furthermore, we are anchoring our approach moving forward based on ONE drive that resulted in a field goal in one of the worst cumulative offensive performances of BYU history.



This is just sad.



12 yards.
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BroncoBot
pjmuli wrote:
Coach Mendenhall indicated that the Offense was beginning to find its identity in the 3rd quarter of the TCU game. He stated, "You saw glimpses in that third quarter with Bryan Kariya running the ball hard and some play-action passes coming off of it. That, to me, is going to be the identity of where we need to go and that will be the identity that I hang my hat on.”



Sounds like we will see more power running up the middle from Kariya and Juice with lots of short passes going to RB - possibly TE/WR (if they can get open and hold onto the ball). Nothing wrong with this approach as it plays to our strength (strong OL pushing forward - clearing out a path).



We have four games to master this approach and hopefully be on all cylinders by the time we face Yewts.


I know others have or will say this...but I just think this is stupid. Good coaches customize gameplans to the best talent they have in the stable. Kariya is NOT the best talent on the offensive side of the ball.



Furthermore, we are anchoring our approach moving forward based on ONE drive that resulted in a field goal in one of the worst cumulative offensive performances of BYU history.



This is just sad.



12 yards.

I think that comment about Kariya is just ignorant.



Who are these offensive jaugernauts that should be getting Kariya's touches? The guy is one of the only bright spots on the team. doesn't give up, runs hard, doesn't fumble, and has saved Heaps life with his blocking. If anything the anemic O-line not opening holes for Kariya is the real problem. That and the coaches asking Kariya to run beat people to the edge, which isn't going to happen. When Kariya is playing well, BYU is doing well. Sometimes BYU is just asking the guy to go outside his abilities.



In a year when the offense has no leadership, I'd be tempted to have Kariya on the field every down.
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SpiffCoug
I love how Kariya has gone from goat against Nevada on the failed fourth down attempt who has no talent and should never see the field again to a talented, offensive player who could be a cornerstone of our new offensive identity.
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BroncoBot
kitic77 wrote:
I love how Kariya has gone from goat against Nevada on the failed fourth down attempt who has no talent and should never see the field again to a talented, offensive player who could be a cornerstone of our new offensive identity.

Hope you don't think I'm flip flopping on Kariya. I've always thought he was a solid player. Every time I see someone try to blame the offense on Kariya I've stood up for him. Although, I get the feeling that I'm one of the few out there that feels that way. The rest would be content to hand it off to "Juice" every other play. Who I also think is a good player, just not ready to do all the things Kariya does so well.
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SpiffCoug
declocoug wrote:
I love how Kariya has gone from goat against Nevada on the failed fourth down attempt who has no talent and should never see the field again to a talented, offensive player who could be a cornerstone of our new offensive identity.

Hope you don't think I'm flip flopping on Kariya. I've always thought he was a solid player. Every time I see someone try to blame the offense on Kariya I've stood up for him. Although, I get the feeling that I'm one of the few out there that feels that way. The rest would be content to hand it off to "Juice" every other play. Who I also think is a good player, just not ready to do all the things Kariya does so well.

Not necessarily you, but it is interesting how the calls for Kariya to never see the field again have died out.



Kariya is proof positive that many players can be successful if the coaches put them in the right positions and the players are ready and capable.
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BroncoBot
kitic77 wrote:
kitic77 wrote:
I love how Kariya has gone from goat against Nevada on the failed fourth down attempt who has no talent and should never see the field again to a talented, offensive player who could be a cornerstone of our new offensive identity.

Hope you don't think I'm flip flopping on Kariya. I've always thought he was a solid player. Every time I see someone try to blame the offense on Kariya I've stood up for him. Although, I get the feeling that I'm one of the few out there that feels that way. The rest would be content to hand it off to "Juice" every other play. Who I also think is a good player, just not ready to do all the things Kariya does so well.

Not necessarily you, but it is interesting how the calls for Kariya to never see the field again have died out.



Kariya is proof positive that many players can be successful if the coaches put them in the right positions and the players are ready and capable.

Thanks goodness. CC posters started looking like a bunch of village idiots trying to find a witch to burn for a while with the Kariya bashing.
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Schmoe
Wow, where were you guys during the first couple weeks of the season when I was the only one who was saying these things. Coulda used a little support back then, but now I can just say to all of CC: I TOLD YOU SO!
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BroncoBot
Schmoe wrote:
Wow, where were you guys during the first couple weeks of the season when I was the only one who was saying these things. Coulda used a little support back then, but now I can just say to all of CC: I TOLD YOU SO!

Look back at my posts if you are referring to supporting Kariya. I've had his back through thick and thin.
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