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Receivers Performance

by byufan4ever · 10/10/2010

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byufan4ever
By my own mark, this is how our receivers performed today:



Player - Targeted - Catches - Drops - 1st Down drops - Fumbles

Jacobsen - 5 - 4 - 1 - 1 - 0

Matthews - 5 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 1

Di Luigi - 3 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0

Hoffman - 3 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0

Kariya - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0

Muehlmann - 2 - 1- 0 - 0 - 0

Mahina - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0

Hague - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0

Chambers - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0



I tracked this throughout the game and I checked to make sure that my total Targeted = Pass Attemptions and Catches = Pass Completions.



Jacobsen had the only big drop, but he played well overall. Matthews had the big fumble, but other than that played well. Hoffman didn't show up.



I'm perfectly happy with running the ball as much as we did today although some may claim that's not the BYU way...
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snoscythe
Yeah, I wouldn't call the Jacobsen miss in the endzone a drop either. When the DB tips the ball that close to the receiver, it's impossible for the receiver to make any adjustment. The DB just got enough of the ball to make it hit McKay's wrist instead of his palms, and with that tip happening just two feet in front of his hands, there was no chance to adjust.



That was a great play by the DB, not a drop by Jacobsen.
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byufan4ever
Good point. I couldnt' decide initially whether to mark it as a drop or not. "Drop" is very open to interpretation.
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Y 4 Ever
snoscythe wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the Jacobsen miss in the endzone a drop either. When the DB tips the ball that close to the receiver, it's impossible for the receiver to make any adjustment. The DB just got enough of the ball to make it hit McKay's wrist instead of his palms, and with that tip happening just two feet in front of his hands, there was no chance to adjust.



That was a great play by the DB, not a drop by Jacobsen.


I agree. Not Jacobsen's fault. Would have been a sweet play had he made it, though.
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snoscythe
byufan4ever wrote:
Good point. I couldnt' decide initially whether to mark it as a drop or not. "Drop" is very open to interpretation.


And, like one of the beat writers on KSL said this last week, the receivers haven't exactly earned the benefit of the doubt to this point. I just had to stick up for a fellow receiver. ;)
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Mars
snoscythe wrote:
I wouldn't call the Jacobsen miss in the endzone a drop either. When the DB tips the ball that close to the receiver, it's impossible for the receiver to make any adjustment.

Greg Wrubell said that the DB didn't touch the ball, McKay just dropped it. Sounds like something McKay would do.
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snoscythe
Mars wrote:
I wouldn't call the Jacobsen miss in the endzone a drop either. When the DB tips the ball that close to the receiver, it's impossible for the receiver to make any adjustment.

Greg Wrubell said that the DB didn't touch the ball, McKay just dropped it. Sounds like something McKay would do.


On the TV replay it was clear that the DB tipped it. The MTN actually had a good angle on something for once.
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Short_Change
snoscythe wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the Jacobsen miss in the endzone a drop either. When the DB tips the ball that close to the receiver, it's impossible for the receiver to make any adjustment. The DB just got enough of the ball to make it hit McKay's wrist instead of his palms, and with that tip happening just two feet in front of his hands, there was no chance to adjust.



That was a great play by the DB, not a drop by Jacobsen.


I disagree that it would be impossible for the receiver to catch it, if that's what you meant. I wouldn't call that a tip either, maybe a nick. It wasn't an easy play, but a play that I think McKay could make.
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craigoscarson
Interesting that no one has made mention of the fact that Ashworth was not targeted. He's had the worst dropitis of em all and certainly doesn't merit getting the ball thrown his way.



Hoffman still has a long way to go, but at least he's still a freshman with plenty of upside. I see ZERO reason why Ashworth should be playing if we want to improve for now and the future.



Dropped passes are drive killers and we won for the simple reason that we ran the ball and avoided risking a ton of drops; thus dominated time of possession (with a huge nod to our defense on that too; SDSU had to throw the ball to achieve a thing thanks to Bronco and Co.)
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byutx
Jacobsen's drop wasn't tipped.
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Wickchad
I'd put Matthews down for two drops. The second one was the pass over the middle that he didn't try to catch. He pulled his hands back like he thought the ball was going to someone else. It looks like something he could have caught if he had tried. And what the heck was he doing running with the ball in two hands out in front of him. Tuck the ball you moron!
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Cougarbib
Although he didn't throw 50 times, it seemed even on a percentage basis that Heaps did not waste as many attempts due to high risk fades, poor placement, timing / touch problems and bad throws. I thought Heaps improved. We were more effective throwing to JJ and the tight ends, although ends need to step it up even more.



Play calls were nicely mixed on the night.



Having only SEEN the game on the Radio, no comment on the Jacobsen drop / tipped pass.



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byufan4ever
byutx wrote:
Jacobsen's drop wasn't tipped.


I watched it in super slow mo and it was definately tipped.
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byutx
byufan4ever wrote:
Jacobsen's drop wasn't tipped.


I watched it in super slow mo and it was definately tipped.

So did I and I thought it wasn't. I'll re-watch it right now.
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byutx wrote:
byutx wrote:
Jacobsen's drop wasn't tipped.


I watched it in super slow mo and it was definately tipped.

So did I and I thought it wasn't. I'll re-watch it right now.


Even if the ball were not tipped it would have meant that the defenders arm passed right next to the ball right in front of McKay, which would have made him think it was tipped which would have caused a huge distraction.
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bostoncoug
Best part about this list............ Not one pass to Ashworthless :)
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Cougy_Monster
Jacobsen's drop was tipped. It's quite clear on the replay.



But, the ball didn't change trajectory all that much. It's the kind of ball that Collie or Harline would have still caught and that's why it's perfectly OK to call it a drop.
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byutx
I think the replay is quite clear that it wasn't tipped. His hand passed near it but didn't touch it. Certainly didn't change the trajectory at all. Should have been caught. It was a drop.
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Lawboy
Personally, I was just glad to see McKay get separation on a DB. Jake could have put it in there quicker and his pass gave the DB just enough time to recover enough to affect the catch. But yeah, would have been nice for the team to have a big play in the passing game down the field, because those have simply not happened this year.



Let's hope the WR and TE can get more separation v. TCU, or else it might be a long day. In that 2006 game clip, we were beating them all over the field and it was fun to watch. We need our guys to be better at getting open to catch a pass, not just focusing on route running.
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Cougarfan87
Lawboy wrote:
We need our guys to be better at getting open to catch a pass, not just focusing on route running.


Running precise routes is how you get open, even if you are slow. See, for example, Andy Boyce, Chuck Cutler, and other sure handed receivers from BYU's past that weren't necessarily burners. When you start rounding off your patterns, the DB is not forced to change direction, and hence, you don't get separation.
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