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Italicssorry if this was mentioned somewhere, I've been busy lately.
"That's what you get for not joining their religion."
Good riddance, coach Hill.
"That's what you get for not joining their religion."
Good riddance, coach Hill.
by Italics · 10/5/2010
Italics wrote:
"That's what you get for not joining their religion."
33311710 wrote:
Is it "PC" to call a woman a douchebag?
Schmoe wrote:
it's not PC to call anyone a douchebag, which is why I do it all the time
SenorCougar wrote:
Here we go again. Religion....Race.......Whatever. Do you think that maybe being in last place in run defense, and near the bottom in pass defense and total defense might have something to do with it? He can always apply at the University of New Mexico. They can use all the help they can get. Oops, I forgot. Their defense is probably rated higher than ours. But then again, we had to play real tough opponents like the Aggies from Utah State....
frdbtr wrote:Here we go again. Religion....Race.......Whatever. Do you think that maybe being in last place in run defense, and near the bottom in pass defense and total defense might have something to do with it? He can always apply at the University of New Mexico. They can use all the help they can get. Oops, I forgot. Their defense is probably rated higher than ours. But then again, we had to play real tough opponents like the Aggies from Utah State....
I agree, it offends me that it always comes to this when someone has sour grapes or an axe to grind. They just throw the stereo type accusation and everyone inclined to believe it thinks "that makes sense" That is why I hate the race card thing so much. He is probably a perfectly nice guy but as soon as he ruins our defense and gets fired, we starting hearing thinks like "scapegoat" or "we didn't join their religion so we never fit in" I get so sick of this type of thing.
ABYUFAN wrote:
Sorry to be Johny Wetblanket here, but is this thread really necessary? Itâs clear that you guys havenât tried to see things from her perspective. Sheâs upset; losing a job in any economy is bad; but in this economy, with the need to now sell her house (that they may owe more on it than its worth), and you see why sheâd very upset. On top of that â weâre underperforming on both sides of the ball. Many (including some on this board) feel that we just let go of the wrong coordinator, and the other coordinator, that wasnât let go, despite his side of the ball performing worse on (and there are rumors of him alienating players and sowing seeds of discord) happens to be of âour religion.â
Just so you know, I disagree with her. He wasnât fired for not joining âour religion,â but I can see where sheâs coming from, and I donât think that people of âour religionâ should be Asses to others for expressing their frustration in difficult times; we should be a bit more understanding.
ABYUFAN wrote:
Sorry to be Johny Wetblanket here, but is this thread really necessary?
clemdiggitydog1 wrote:SenorCougar wrote:
Here we go again. Religion....Race.......Whatever. Do you think that maybe being in last place in run defense, and near the bottom in pass defense and total defense might have something to do with it? He can always apply at the University of New Mexico. They can use all the help they can get. Oops, I forgot. Their defense is probably rated higher than ours. But then again, we had to play real tough opponents like the Aggies from Utah State....
I agree, it offends me that it always comes to this when someone has sour grapes or an axe to grind. They just throw the stereo type accusation and everyone inclined to believe it thinks "that makes sense" That is why I hate the race card thing so much. He is probably a perfectly nice guy but as soon as he ruins our defense and gets fired, we starting hearing thinks like "scapegoat" or "we didn't join their religion so we never fit in" I get so sick of this type of thing.
sooooo, ya'll think that the HIll Family, and particularly Coach Hill's wife, have absolutely no reason to be bitter or stressed out about Coach Hill's firing? I am not sugggesting that the action of his firing didn't need to be done, that's the Head coach's call, but honestly not one of you are introspective enough to seriously consider the notion that it may be difficult for a non-Mormon, non-Caucasian to really fit in in Provo, and that the sudden and unexpected firing of your husband wouldn't engender a little hostility and cause you to question the motives of a mid-season firing , if you are in her shoes? really? and this after they absolutely have endured getting their house egged a few years ago? really? I wonder how all of you non-judgemental types would deal with that if the shoe were on the other foot. it seems like if you're really "sick of this thing ", as you suggest, that maybe you should re-evaluate how much tolerance you have in your heart for the feelings of those you're supposedly wanting to influence. Oh wait, I remember, racism is dead in America, and African Americans are all overly sensitive.
frdbtr wrote:
So you don't think it is wrong for a public figure to post unfounded and harmful accusations in a public forum? How do you think this affects future African American/non mormon hires or recruits? These kind of statements are inflamatory and ridiculous.
frdbtr wrote:frdbtr wrote:Here we go again. Religion....Race.......Whatever. Do you think that maybe being in last place in run defense, and near the bottom in pass defense and total defense might have something to do with it? He can always apply at the University of New Mexico. They can use all the help they can get. Oops, I forgot. Their defense is probably rated higher than ours. But then again, we had to play real tough opponents like the Aggies from Utah State....
I agree, it offends me that it always comes to this when someone has sour grapes or an axe to grind. They just throw the stereo type accusation and everyone inclined to believe it thinks "that makes sense" That is why I hate the race card thing so much. He is probably a perfectly nice guy but as soon as he ruins our defense and gets fired, we starting hearing thinks like "scapegoat" or "we didn't join their religion so we never fit in" I get so sick of this type of thing.
sooooo, ya'll think that the HIll Family, and particularly Coach Hill's wife, have absolutely no reason to be bitter or stressed out about Coach Hill's firing? I am not sugggesting that the action of his firing didn't need to be done, that's the Head coach's call, but honestly not one of you are introspective enough to seriously consider the notion that it may be difficult for a non-Mormon, non-Caucasian to really fit in in Provo, and that the sudden and unexpected firing of your husband wouldn't engender a little hostility and cause you to question the motives of a mid-season firing , if you are in her shoes? really? and this after they absolutely have endured getting their house egged a few years ago? really? I wonder how all of you non-judgemental types would deal with that if the shoe were on the other foot. it seems like if you're really "sick of this thing ", as you s uggest, that maybe you should re-evaluate how much tolerance you have in your heart for the feelings of those you're supposedly wanting to influence. Oh wait, I remember, racism is dead in America, and African Americans are all overly sensitive.
So you don't think it is wrong for a public figure to post unfounded and harmful accusations in a public forum? How do you think this affects future African American/non mormon hires or recruits? These kind of statements are inflamatory and ridiculous.
ABYUFAN wrote:
So you don't think it is wrong for a public figure to post unfounded and harmful accusations in a public forum? How do you think this affects future African American/non mormon hires or recruits? These kind of statements are inflamatory and ridiculous.
Just to weigh in on this - I don't think it would affect future recruits or coaching candidates. If not for this thread, who here would have heard of her opinion? Not me. Besides, most people would see it for what it is, a general statement of frustration; they'd consider the source and move on. However, if they read this board, they will see a bunch of people who appear to be ultra thin skinned on this topic and might think that we all "doth protest too much"