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1992 has a lot of similarities with 2010

by Y12 · 9/23/2010

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Cougarbib
Be careful what you wish for



1992 Football Schedule







SEP 5 UTEP at UTEP W 38 - 28

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SEP 10 SanDiego St. PROVO, UT L 38 - 45

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SEP 19 UCLA PROVO, UT L 10 - 17

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SEP 26 Hawaii at Hawaii L 32 - 36

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OCT 2 Utah St. PROVO, UT W 30 - 9

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OCT 10 Fresno St. (H) PROVO, UT W 36 - 24

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OCT 17 Wyoming at Wyoming W 31 - 28

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OCT 24 Notre Dame at Notre Dame L 16 - 42

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OCT 31 Penn St. PROVO, UT W 30 - 17

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NOV 7 New Mexico PROVO, UT W 35 - 0

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NOV 14 Air Force at Air Force W 28 - 7

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NOV 21 Utah at Utah W 31 - 22

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DEC 25 ^ Kansas (B) L 20 - 23

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The quoted article left out some details worth mentioning.



This was the season, iirc, of the "5th String QB".



Iirc, John Walsh and Steve Clement went down on consecutive plays with season ending injuries. BYU started that year with 5 highly touted SOPHOMORE QBs, including lefty transfer Steve Clements from Texas who was a passing and running threat. Hancock took over as 3rd string and carried the team for nearly the rest of the season. But, Alas, Hancock also went down and gave up football to pursue a professonal baseball carer the next year with teh California Angels. He worked his way through the farm club and eventually started for the California Angels and won his 1st 3 or 4 games in the BIGS before fading into oblivion. I asked the GM of the Angels, who happened to coach my son's little league basketball team, what happened and he said something about "short arm" which I never quite understood. I always forget who the 4th string QB was because he transferred during summer camp to get more PT elsewhere. I forget who he was but am confident he never amounted to anything elsewhere.



Trivia Question 1 of the day: Who was he? How did things work out for him elsewhere? He woulda got his shot!

Trivia Question 2 of the day: Are you all glad Lark and Munns did not transfer?

Trivia Question 3 of the day: Who got that shot" OK - I will answer this one for you because I will never forget the 5th string QB that stuck around until he was called upon and proved ready to go when he was. It was Steve Young's youngest brother - Tom Young and he went on to win the MVP award in the bowl game even though it was a close loss. This is one of the reasons why our talented young QBs need to stick around.



But be carefeul what you wish for - don't want to see Heaps and Lark go down on consecutive plays, have Munns already transferred, and see how the 5th string QB does this year (we do have a 5th string QB that no one ever talks about).
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Cougarbib
It is also my recollection that the back-to-back injuries were during the Hawaii game and Hancock took over in that game not having any idea when the game started that he would be needed because he was 3rd string at the start of the game and 1st string at the end of it.



I could be off on my recollection - but in any event a lot of people went down and Hancock was ready to play when his time came. Imho, Hancock shoulda stuck with football. I think he was NFL caliber. Walsh was supposed to be, but left early for the draft and then did not get drafted. Just one more reason our young talented QBs should all stick around.



Clement got a quick shot when Walsh went down. Hancock got a long shot, immediatley thereafter, when Clement went down. Young got his shot when Hancock went down. Walsh got another shot when Hancock gave up football for baseball. Someone else got their shot when Walsh left early for the NFL.



Trivia Quesiton 4: Who got the shot when Walsh left early for the NFL?



Go Cougs
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Cougarbib
OK



Brock Spencer was the 4th string QB that transferred iirc - but I hae no idea where he went other than it was not big time



When Walsh went early to the NFL - that brought in the Steve Sarkisian era iirc.
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Mingjai
As recall, Walsh stated against UTEP and SDSU and then separated his right shoulder in the second half of the UCLA game. Clements came on, finished the UCLA game, started the Hawaii game but dislocated his shoulder in the first half. Hancock finished the Hawaii game, engineering a near comeback, and played the remainder of the season, beating #14 at the time (I believe) Penn State. In the last regular season game against Utah, Hancock injured his knee (ACL I think), and Tom Young came to finish the game and play the entire game against Kansas (garnering MVP honors as was mentioned).



As for Hancock, the guy could bring the heat, throwing 95+ mph fastballs. I remember in one of his games for the Angels. In 1996, Hancock became the first Angels pitcher to get a hit since the implementation of the DH rule. The previous Angels pitcher to get a hit was Nolan Ryan in 1972.
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SpiffCoug
I believe it was Tom Young who took over for the bowl game against Kansas. Our OL got abused by Dana Stubblefield.



And wasn't it a cheapshot, out-of-bounds, late hit on Hancock that blew out his knee in the Utah game?
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Metal Bubba
kitic77 wrote:
I believe it was Tom Young who took over for the bowl game against Kansas. Our OL got abused by Dana Stubblefield.



And wasn't it a cheapshot, out-of-bounds, late hit on Hancock that blew out his knee in the Utah game?


Correct on both games. This was my 2nd year at BYU. Years of smoking a load of pot has dulled most of those memories, but a couple come immediately to mind.



SDSU - I remember showing up at the stadium early for this one. SDSU's punter came over to the sideline and talked to me and my roommate. Friendly guy, but he was talking all kinds of trash about what Marshall Faulk was going to do. And of course, he was right.



Penn State - This was the only home hame I missed in 1992. My roommate and I drove down to Vegas that weekend to catch an exhibition game between the Hornets and Blazers at the T&M. Watched the football game on TV. It was a beautiful fall day in Vegas and a crappy, rainy day in Provo. But we whooped 'em.
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1967cougar
All I really remember from that year was the cheap shot on Hancock out of bounds in the Puke game up in SLC.



Someone correct me if I am wrong on this: I think it was the following year. the Pukes had our number in Provo and were stomping on us. Sark was really rattled. I was sitting in the cheap $2 tickets the Ward youth groups were offered in the south end zone. On one particular play, we had the ball deep in our own territory. It was close to the end zone where I was sitting. The Cougs broke the huddle and Sark went under center - except he went under the left guard. He then stood straight, moved over under center, and the play continued. I remember it because this idiot Puke fan was yelling and screaming the entire day and continually pointed it out to all of us very quiet and humbled Coug fans.
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snoscythe
They sure are taking their sweet time with the announcements....
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Y12
Cougarbib2 wrote:
The quoted article left out some details worth mentioning.


Those were a lot of great details that you added. I read the article again, I think it was trying to highlight Ryan Hancock, not the 1992 season, FWIW.



You never know what is going to happen. Most of the time a season goes along and the QB does not have any major injuries (Max Hall never got hurt his three years). Other times, you have this rash of injuries. You never know when it is going to happen. It is hard to say to those other guys that they should stay because QB can get hurt, but you appreciate when quality back ups stay and give you the depth you want/need at this position.
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Y12
Cougarbib2 wrote:
Imho, Hancock shoulda stuck with football. I think he was NFL caliber.


Didn't he try to come back and LaVell said he wouldn't give him a chance to be the starter? I remember something like that.
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Mingjai
Y12 wrote:
Imho, Hancock shoulda stuck with football. I think he was NFL caliber.


Didn't he try to come back and LaVell said he wouldn't give him a chance to be the starter? I remember something like that.


No, I'm pretty sure that he decided to stick with baseball when he was recovering from his knee injury. At worst, Coach Edwards would have said Hancock had to earn the position like everyone else, but I don't even remember hearing anything like that. The biggest factor in the decision as I remember is that Hancock had already been drafted by the Angels and didn't want to jeopardize his baseball career, which at that time seemed pretty promising.



I think he made a good decision at the time, but it's too bad, because I think he had some NFL potential as well.
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Y12
Mingjai wrote:
Cougarbib2 wrote:
Imho, Hancock shoulda stuck with football. I think he was NFL caliber.


Didn't he try to come back and LaVell said he wouldn't give him a chance to be the starter? I remember something like that.


No, I'm pretty sure that he decided to stick with baseball when he was recovering from his knee injury. At worst, Coach Edwards would have said Hancock had to earn the position like everyone else, but I don't even remember hearing anything like that. The biggest factor in the decision as I remember is that Hancock had already been drafted by the Angels and didn't want to jeopardize his baseball career, which at that time seemed pretty promising.



I think he made a good decision at the time, but it's too bad, because I think he had some NFL potential as well.


I am referring to after his baseball career. I remember he went off to baseball, but came back and wanted another shot when the baseball thing was done.
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Cougarbib
If that happened, I never heard anything about it. My recollection is the same as the previous post - after injury he didn't want to jeopardize the pro baseball career which was pretty much in the bag



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