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Indy + BCS bowl = serious payout

by craigoscarson · 9/1/2010

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craigoscarson
I know that this is just a stepping off for a Big 12 invite, but in the meantime if BYU manages to snag a BCS bowl, they keep every penny.... how ya like them apples?
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Cougy_Monster
craigoscarson wrote:
I know that this is just a stepping off for a Big 12 invite, but in the meantime if BYU manages to snag a BCS bowl, they keep every penny.... how ya like them apples?




Mmmmm......17 million apples.....



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Mars


Yeah, of like $6MM. Whoopdy-doo.
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craigoscarson
Mars wrote:


Yeah, of like $6MM. Whoopdy-doo.


A full share of a BCS bowl is closer to $20 million.... right now I believe it's $17 million
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Italics
Mars wrote:


Yeah, of like $6MM. .


Please tell me you're joking.
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BerliNY
craigoscarson wrote:
I know that this is just a stepping off for a Big 12 invite, but in the meantime if BYU manages to snag a BCS bowl, they keep every penny.... how ya like them apples?




... which thing I never had supposed.
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MTM
I think Mars' number is closer to reality.



My understanding is that ND does NOT get the full BCS payout if they go to a BCS game. I could be wrong but I don't think so.
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Cougy_Monster
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The bowl payouts are the same whether you have to share it with doormats or not.



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Jarhead
MTM wrote:
I think Mars' number is closer to reality.



My understanding is that ND does NOT get the full BCS payout if they go to a BCS game. I could be wrong but I don't think so.


I think Notre Dame has a special arrangement where it has a reduced payout if it makes the BCS, but it also gets at least a 1 million payout every year regardless if they go or not.
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imuakahuku
MTM wrote:
I think Mars' number is closer to reality.



My understanding is that ND does NOT get the full BCS payout if they go to a BCS game. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

ND has an agreement with the BCS that pays them something like $1.3 to 3 million every year whether they go or not. So they don't get the $17million if they go but they also don't get $0 if they don't get a BCS bid. But I think they may get $4million if they do go. I see numbers around a million but I think it slipped out once that they really get around $3m total if they don't get a bid.
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Italics
maybe we can just all agree that it would be a hefty sum of money?
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blue42
Mars is right, if you are an auto qualifier you get bigger money, if you are an at-large bid such as Boise last year your payout is only around $6 mil.
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BTIB
The BCS bends to rules for ND. Don't expect them to bend them for you. I might be wrong, but I thought when a non-aq goes to a BCS bowl the money is also split between all the other non-aq conferences. Your pay-out would be great but I would guess it won't be close to what ND gets.
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MTM
Geez, no wonder ND has a superiority complex. :bug:
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craigoscarson
blue42 wrote:
Mars is right, if you are an auto qualifier you get bigger money, if you are an at-large bid such as Boise last year your payout is only around $6 mil.


Boise had to split a % with the WAC. They got $6 mill for themselves. BYU wouldn't have to split their BCS money, however the BCS could contract with BYU an individual payment. There is no law or provision that BYU would have to share the money now.
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blue42
craigoscarson wrote:
Mars is right, if you are an auto qualifier you get bigger money, if you are an at-large bid such as Boise last year your payout is only around $6 mil.


Boise had to split a % with the WAC. They got $6 mill for themselves. BYU wouldn't have to split their BCS money, however the BCS could contract with BYU an individual payment. There is no law or provision that BYU would have to share the money now.


Boise did have to split it's take with the WAC and because of it the got $3 mil out of the game in the end but the payout for the at large bid was $6 mil.
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blue42
blue42 wrote:
blue42 wrote:
Mars is right, if you are an auto qualifier you get bigger money, if you are an at-large bid such as Boise last year your payout is only around $6 mil.


Boise had to split a % with the WAC. They got $6 mill for themselves. BYU wouldn't have to split their BCS money, however the BCS could contract with BYU an individual payment. There is no law or provision that BYU would have to share the money now.


Boise did have to split it's take with the WAC and because of it the got $3 mil out of the game in the end but the payout for the at large bid was $6-9 mil.



Also since BYU isn't considered a AQ school MTM may be right that could still be required to split with the other conferences, the biggest difference would be they would have to split the remaining the rest of the MWC
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byufan4ever
In 2005 this deal was made with Notre Dame:



"Notre Dame will now receive an automatic BCS bid if they place in the top 8 in the BCS poll. The Irish will be considered for a bid if they finish in the top 12. Notre Dame will also now received $4.5 million for playing in a BCS game and $1 million when they don't. This is a change from the previous arrangement in which the Irish received $14 million for a BCS appearance and no cash otherwise" (http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/005159.php).



See here for "The Notre Dame Rule" - http://clashmoremike.com/2009/07/notre-dame-and-the-bcs-the-notre-dame-rule/#.



There will need to be some sort of BYU Rule although the BCS is going to try to treat us more like Navy and Army, which have to finish in the top 2 in BCS rankings to make a BCS bowl while Notre Dame has to finish in the top 8. Still, sometimes the ACC and Big East champs are ranked worse than top 8...
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Italics
Army has to finish in the top 2, not Navy (from what I've heard - I'm yet to see anything official and haven't been able to find it).
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craigoscarson
byufan4ever wrote:
In 2005 this deal was made with Notre Dame:



"Notre Dame will now receive an automatic BCS bid if they place in the top 8 in the BCS poll. The Irish will be considered for a bid if they finish in the top 12. Notre Dame will also now received $4.5 million for playing in a BCS game and $1 million when they don't. This is a change from the previous arrangement in which the Irish received $14 million for a BCS appearance and no cash otherwise" (http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/005159.php).



See here for "The Notre Dame Rule" - http://clashmoremike.com/2009/07/notre-dame-and-the-bcs-the-notre-dame-rule/#.



There will need to be some sort of BYU Rule although the BCS is going to try to treat us more like Navy and Army, which have to finish in the top 2 in BCS rankings to make a BCS bowl while Notre Dame has to finish in the top 8. Still, sometimes the ACC and Big East champs are ranked worse than top 8...


My understanding to this point was with no other agreement in place, that were BYU to be invited to a BCS bowl as it stands that we'd get $17 million; just like notre dame would have they not brokered a deal to get money every year that they dont' make it. The $14 million they got was what the max BCS payout used to be in the past before inflation, etc.



Regardless of the amount, my point is that there will be no wyomings or colorado states to take what we've earned.
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