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BYU Called Back the WCC to Discuss Terms?

by Mars · 8/25/2010

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craigoscarson
Of course they did. With the WAC meltdown, BYU has to pursue the WCC as a potential option or they lose all leverage with the MWC.



You can't broker broadcasting independence if the MWC knows you have nowwhere else to go.
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YBrit
If we join how many sports do we drop? Or how many conferences do we join to make it work?
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Lawboy
We drop 0 sports. Men's volleyball is already in another conference, as is Men's soccer(non NCAA). Sounds as if Women's gymnastics is already indy, but that is not unusual for that sport. Track might be the only sport to go indy, but Portland in the WCC is indy too, and would be a good new strategic partner. Plus, easy to get into track meets, and BYU already hosts a huge one each year.



I do not see the WCC as being a huge downer, as the reality is that football and Men's hoop are the big sports. Indy in football creates a ton more revenue, and the WCC is a solid hoops league, with Gonzaga, St. Mary's and others. Away games will have small gyms, but that won;t hurt BYU ticket sales at the MC, or hurt national exposure since the WCC has an ESPN deal, and offers Portland, San Fran, LA, San Diego as travel locations. No too bad really.
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CannonCougar85
If this is just a leverage move then does this mean that BYU is still pursuing the Independent Football with the rest of the sports in the MWC option? Kind of a "If you won't let us do it we have a conference on the phone that will." sort of thing?
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bball
The WCC is still my number one choice. If the sunday play thing can be resolved, and the conference wants BYU, I say take it, take ESPN, go indy in football with ESPN's deal, and BYU will be light years ahead of where they are in the MWC, or would have been in the WAC.



What else the WCC does is gets BYU out of all this in-state stuff, and looking after Utah State, etc. Utah did not give two cents about the MWC, BYU or their traditional rivals, and BYU shouldn't either. I will be disappointed if BYU stays in the MWC, the WCC is a better deal for BYU.
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QuarterbackU
problem is we would have to scrounge up an entire season schedule in football from scratch rather than having 4-6 games immediately scheduled with the WAC.
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Lawboy
QuarterbackU wrote:
problem is we would have to scrounge up an entire season schedule in football from scratch rather than having 4-6 games immediately scheduled with the WAC.


I do not see this as a problem. The remaining WAC teams would do it, Fresno State, AFA, BSU and TCU would do it. There is not a team in the MWC that would turn down a chance to sell tickets to get BYU to their place every 2 years. Navy and Army would do it. Notre Dame needs November games. Scheduling will not be as big of an issue as you might think.
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CannonCougar85
Lawboy wrote:

I do not see this as a problem. The remaining WAC teams would do it, Fresno State, AFA, BSU and TCU would do it. There is not a team in the MWC that would turn down a chance to sell tickets to get BYU to their place every 2 years. Navy and Army would do it. Notre Dame needs November games. Scheduling will not be as big of an issue as you might think.


I agree Lawboy. I laughed out loud when I read Brady Hoke's comments "Who's going to schedule BYU now?" The reason I laughed was because I have been to a BYU game at SDSU and BYU fans outnumbered SDSU fans at least 2-1. I can guarantee that there is no way that SDSU turns down their most profitable home game just because Hoke is a little offended that BYU is throwing their weight around.
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Mars
CannonCougar85 wrote:
I laughed out loud when I read Brady Hoke's comments "Who's going to schedule BYU now?"

Yeah, Texas scheduled BYU for a home-and-home the very next day after that genius' dire pronouncement for BYU. :lol:



My one concern about the WCC: Our Softball team. They're excellent.
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AxelDC
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BYU can put whatever sports don't fit in the WCC in the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation. It's a group of 31 schools who play various sports. Any school can participate if its conference does not host a championship for that sport. BYU already participates in Men's Volleyball. They also do gymnastics, track & field, water polo, soccer, lacrosse, and swimming & diving in Men's & Women's athletics. If the WCC doesn't host any of these, BYU can field a team via the MPSF.
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bplewe
But MPSF doesn't do outdoor T&F or Softball, both of which BYU is quite good at.
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scott715
http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/message.html?id=5829307

A very good answer.
The big one is softball. You have to have a league for softball. It's the only sport that could be potentially problematic, but there are 2 solutions, as far as the WCC is concerned.



1. BYU could sign up with the Pacific Coast Softball Conference (PCSC) for Softball. The PCSC currently has 12 teams, and takes in interested D-1 teams. The PCSC has a number of nationally competetive teams, such as Portland and Santa Clara.



2. If BYU jointed the WCC, that would give the WCC the requisite six teams that play softball, and the league could sponsor the sport itself. NCAA softball rules only require six participating members to get an automatic bid. The others are Santa Clara, St. Mary's, San Diego, Portland and Loyola Marymount.



The bottom line is this: The WCC works fine for the small sports. They sponsor nearly all of the ones we compete in, and for the 3 they don't, there are viable, and simple to implement options.


For Track and Field: You don't have to be in a conference. Several other d-1 programs aren't, and the reason is VERY simple. You don't qualify for regionals or nationals as a team, you qualify by meeting specific speed, height and distance marks. There are so many invitationals all over the country each week, independent schedules are filled with these events.
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Schmoe
Goodness please, please let us leave the MWC in our rearview and join the WCC.
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