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Locker 65-68% Completions?

by BYULV · 8/9/2010

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BYULV
Sark has set a goal that Locker connect on 65-68% of his passes this year with a TD/INT ratio of 3-1. Do you think this is realistic or just wishful thinking?



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskyfootballblog/2012570482_examining_sarks_goals_for_lock.html





If anyone can make it happen, I think Sark has the potential, but I'm not sure Locker is capable. If they could pull that off, I have no doubt they win the Pac-10 - but again, I doubt Locker has it in him.



Just for reference, here's what Max Hall did last year:



Passing gp-gs effic comp-att-int pct yds td lg avg/g

HALL 13-13 160.13 275-409-14 67.2 3560 33 80 273.8



67%

33-14 (TD-INT) = 2.36
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SpiffCoug
Unrealistic. Those would be HUGE improvements over anything Locker has done. A better goal would be 60-62% and 2:1 ratio.
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BYULV
kitic77 wrote:
Unrealistic. Those would be HUGE improvements over anything Locker has done. A better goal would be 60-62% and 2:1 ratio.


I agree that is attainable. Purplereign may argue that he could easily reach the loftier goal if he were playing in a system offense ;)
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Brayden Green
BYULV wrote:
Unrealistic. Those would be HUGE improvements over anything Locker has done. A better goal would be 60-62% and 2:1 ratio.


I agree that is attainable. Purplereign may argue that he could easily reach the loftier goal if he were playing in a system offense ;)


hahaha... darn those system offenses
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PurpleReign
Low 60's more reachable than mid to high sixties. He had a 48% as a freshmen and 52% in the 3.5 games he played at the beginning of 2008. Firs year under Sark and Nuss he raised it to 58%, which is not bad at all. His biggest issue has been that he has a longer road to travel than some of the kids who grew up throwing the ball. He played in a very basic Wing-T offense and really didn't get any QB coaching until Sark's first year. Ty is a moron and never even hired a QB coach during Lockers first three years.
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BYULV
i'm sure he will improve this year under sark, he (sark) learned from the best ;). seriously, though, I think he will do well this year. I just hope he doesn't put it all together until game#2
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Italics
BYULV wrote:
i'm sure he will improve this year under sark, he (sark) learned from the best ;). seriously, though, I think he will do well this year. I just hope he doesn't put it all together until game#2


All it's going to take is Locker scrambling and getting a good healthy hit from Pendleton once and he won't be the same for the rest of the game. Well, that's if he's even still able to see straight.
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Ddawg
Italics wrote:
i'm sure he will improve this year under sark, he (sark) learned from the best ;). seriously, though, I think he will do well this year. I just hope he doesn't put it all together until game#2


All it's going to take is Locker scrambling and getting a good healthy hit from Pendleton once and he won't be the same for the rest of the game. Well, that's if he's still to see straight.


Bingo!!! Bam!!

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PurpleReign
Locker has survived hits from far tougher defenses (tOSU, LSU, USC, etc). He is NOT injury prone, that is an urban myth.



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Italics
PurpleReign wrote:
Locker has survived hits from far tougher defenses (tOSU, LSU, USC, etc). He is NOT injury prone, that is an urban myth.



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Signed,



Sam Bradford and the Oklahoma Sooners
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PurpleReign
That had nothing to do with who hit him and everything to do with the manner in which he landed on the ground.



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Italics
PurpleReign wrote:
That had nothing to do with who hit him and everything to do with the manner in which he landed on the ground.



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You're using foolish logic in your last two posts.



You claim Locker is not "injury-prone." Are his arms, legs, and shoulders made of cast-iron steal or something?



No quarterback is exempt from the risk of being messed up by a good blow. In case you've not noticed, most college linebackers/linemen are huge - if they hit you hard enough and/or in the right place, it is going to injure you. Jake Locker is not so special that he's not going to be in for a world of hurt if a player like Pendleton slams into him.



And Jake Locker could be sacked and sandwiched between the ground and a BYU player the same way Sam Bradford was... why you seem to think otherwise is beyond me.
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Mars
PurpleReign wrote:
Locker has survived hits from far tougher defenses (tOSU, LSU, USC, etc). He is NOT injury prone, that is an urban myth.

Locker himself will be fine. His thumb, though, is getting broke soon in Provo.
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Y12
PurpleReign wrote:
Locker has survived hits from far tougher defenses (tOSU, LSU, USC, etc). He is NOT injury prone, that is an urban myth.



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Didn't he miss most his sophomore year from an injury? A lot of quarterbacks go their whole college career without missing a game. (Tim Tebow, Max Hall) Should have left off that last sentance.
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Y12
I don't think the question is whether or not these goals are attainable. The question is why would they not set those goals? Any team that is serious about winning will have these same goals.



The 3 to 1 ratio is standard. Everyone everywhere will tell you the same thing. How often it happens is another story, but that is their goal.



The 65-68 completion percentage, that is where the game has headed. 15-20 years ago a good quarterback was completing 60-65, but now 65-68 is becoming commonplace.



Basically, Sark is saying our goal is for Locker to be what we are purporting he is to the media as a heisman trophy candidate, and for him to meet the projections as the number one pick in the next NFL draft.
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snoscythe
I think it's doable. Locker has plenty of talent, and he finally has a coach that is willing to develop his arm instead of drawing the playbook around his legs.



To reach Sark's goals, he has to improve 7% in accuracy over last year (58% last year), and better his TD-INT ratio by 50% (21/11 last year).



It's not going to be easy, but goals aren't supposed to be easy. I think he'll hit the % goal, but he'll probably throw just one or two picks too many.



I just hope that the BYU coaches and defense aren't as naive and myopic in their game-planning as many of the BYU fans are.
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Lawboy
Y12 wrote:
I don't think the question is whether or not these goals are attainable. The question is why would they not set those goals? Any team that is serious about winning will have these same goals.



The 3 to 1 ratio is standard. Everyone everywhere will tell you the same thing. How often it happens is another story, but that is their goal.



The 65-68 completion percentage, that is where the game has headed. 15-20 years ago a good quarterback was completing 60-65, but now 65-68 is becoming commonplace.



Basically, Sark is saying our goal is for Locker to be what we are purporting he is to the media as a heisman trophy candidate, and for him to meet the projections as the number one pick in the next NFL draft.


WINNER! When the coaches sit down with Locker each week to review film, they will do it with these goals in mind to grade him against. A high standard is what you want for a QB. I bet BYU has similar, if not exact, goals for the QB position. And I do not care if Locker has a good game, I just want to win. All that matters.
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SpiffCoug
BYU QBs who have completed 65% or more of their passes with a 3:1 TD:INT ratio:

John Beck, 2006: 69.3%, 32:8

Steve Young, 1983: 70.3%, 33:10



BYU QBs who came close:

Brandon Doman, 2001: 64%, 33:8

Steve Sarkisian, 1996: 68.8%, 33:12

Ty Detmer, 1991: 61.8%, 35:12

Ty Detmer, 1989: 64.3%, 32:15

Robbie Bosco, 1984: 61.8%, 33:11

Jim McMahon, 1981: 64.3%, 30:7

Jim McMahon, 1980: 63.8%, 47:18
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At the Big Blue Bash last year Brandon Doman talked about how they had identified 4:1 as the ultimate td to int ratio, and that if a team could hit that they'd be virtually unstoppable. Max also said that's what he was going for, but obviously he didn't make it and we still ended up pretty darn good.
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BYULV
hawkwing wrote:
At the Big Blue Bash last year Brandon Doman talked about how they had identified 4:1 as the ultimate td to int ratio, and that if a team could hit that they'd be virtually unstoppable. Max also said that's what he was going for, but obviously he didn't make it and we still ended up pretty darn good.




This probably includes fumbles and rushing TDs and is therefore higher. BYU is obviously more successful when their ratio is higher vs lower. I'm hoping for the 4:1 ratio as well. I don't mind if UW goes to a 1:4 ration against us. ;)
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