Rivalry Game/Scheduling

Here's an outside-the-box idea to schedule the Utes in 2011. It is clear that something has to give. Utah needs to drop Boise State or push that home-and-home series back a couple of years and then both BYU and Utah need to compromise to figure out where the game will be played the next few years. But for the 2011 season, could BYU and Utah go to the MWC, the PAC 10, and a couple of bowl games, and get an arrangement where if both teams are bowl eligible and if neither is invited to a BCS bowl game, then a particular Bowl would would agree to invite BYU and Utah and the teams would commit to not accept any other bowl invites?



I think the Las Vegas Bowl or the Poinsettia Bowl (both with MWC v. Pac 10 matchups) would make the most sense.



The other idea (assuming Utah can free up its non-conference schedule) would be to hold the game in Las Vegas in 2011. I think you would have PLENTY of fans for that game. BYU and Utah to agree to share the revenues from the game equally. I bet you could even get a network to pickup this game (not part of the Mtn or the Pac 10 TV deal) and it would be quite lucrative.



My other thought on scheduling the Holy War game for the last game of the season is that there are plenty of non-conference rivalries that are played the last game of the season, despite the fact that the teams are in difference conferences: such as Florida-Florida State, Clemson-South Carolina, Georgia-Georgia Tech. Also, other notable November 27 matchups this year, although not true Rivalries, include: Texas Tech v. Houston, South Florida v. Miami, Notre Dame v. USC (this is a rivalry, but USC plays UCLA December 4). If all these schools can figure it out, why can't BYU and Utah? One important point is that most Pac 10 "rivalry" games are held the first week of December. I still think BYU and Utah to play annually over Thanksgiving weekend, and then Utah, if it had to, could schedule the Colorado-Utah "rivalry" (laugh) game the following week.

Mars wrote:

Utah has asked. Boise State said "bite me".



Iowa State could be dropped though, and BYU could do a 2-for-1 with Utah. Play in SLC in 2011, and play in Provo in 2012 and 2013.

All I can say is that this will NOT happen in 2011, for logistical reasons. BYU already has 2 OOC away games scheduled for 2011, and do not want a 3rd. Play at Texas, and at Oregon State. No way BYU adds a 3rd away game. Have USU at home. Want Utah at home. No way either teams adds a 3rd away OOC game. And Utah has the same predicament. Play at Pitt and at Donkey State and do not want a 3rd OOC away game. Only way this game happens is if Utah gets out of the Donkey state game, or BYU out of the Oregon State game.



In other words, see ya in 2012, Utes. Enjoy not having us on your schedule a year, tail pipe suckers.

Mars wrote:

to schedule the Utes in 2011. It is clear that something has to give. Utah needs to drop Boise State or push that home-and-home series back a couple of years and then both BYU and Utah need to compromise to figure out where the game will be played the next few years.

Utah has asked. Boise State said "bite me".



Iowa State could be dropped though, and BYU could do a 2-for-1 with Utah. Play in SLC in 2011, and play in Provo in 2012 and 2013.

Both Bronco and Kwhitt have said that they would not be interested in playing consecutive games in SLC or provo. I don't see that one happening.

And can you blame either coach? When some folks were proposing the 2011 game at utah after playing at utah 2010--not a chance! To propose two in a row in provo? No way.

Actually, I like missing the rivalry game in 2011. Why? This year the Utard fans will further vindicate Bronco's call for more crowd control and civility. We will see more blow up dolls of max halls mom (along with the obscene gestures), more beer pouring, foul-mouth spewing, and outrageous fan behavior than ever before. AND THE WEAK ___ regime of Chris Hill will be exploited more than ever before, because he isn't in control of his defiant-at-the-heart fans; who if he did try to control, would not show up to future games (because they will actually start searching and confiscating containers of fans for alcohol and not just claim they are alcohol free) and he will need to fill seats more than ever as a new Pac- member. Sorry for the grammatical run on.



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simple: DON'T

YNot wrote:
My other thought on scheduling the Holy War game for the last game of the season is that there are plenty of non-conference rivalries that are played the last game of the season, despite the fact that the teams are in difference conferences: such as Florida-Florida State, Clemson-South Carolina, Georgia-Georgia Tech. Also, other notable November 27 matchups this year, although not true Rivalries, include: Texas Tech v. Houston, South Florida v. Miami, Notre Dame v. USC (this is a rivalry, but USC plays UCLA December 4). If all these schools can figure it out, why can't BYU and Utah? One important point is that most Pac 10 "rivalry" games are held the first week of December. I still think BYU and Utah to play annually over Thanksgiving weekend, and then Utah, if it had to, could schedule the Colorado-Utah "rivalry" (laugh) game the following week.

I'm with you on the end of the season--it makes for more compelling football when non-conference rivals schedule their meetings for the end of the season (even if it isn't the last game). Notre Dame-USC is in November if played in LA and October if played in South Bend. It would be nice if BYU, Utah, and their respective conferences could work to make the rivalry continue to be played the weekend before Thanksgiving.



That said, I wouldn't mind a one-year hiatus in 2011 to allow teams and conferences to adjust to their new schedules.



And while I'm on scheduling, I think the conference was being lazy when they had BSU take Utah's place in the schedule, and I think BYU should have pressed harder to get them to switch it up. Right now, BYU has a feast or famine conference home schedule--TCU, Air Force, Utah/Boise St, and Colorado State one year, and then Wyoming, New Mexico, SDSU, and UNLV the other. Not only does it make it difficult for the football team on the "all big games away" side of the cycle (like this year), it also makes ticket sales a two year cycle of high/low. The conference should have dropped BSU into SDSU or UNLV's place and moved SDSU/UNLV into Utah's slot.