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tre von willis one classy guy
by BYUBALLIN · 6/30/2010
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craigoscarsonI'm not sure that Willis can survive this. A crime against a woman where it appears he strangled her and took her phone so that she couldn't contact anyone (which is why both were charged as felonies) will get the attention of a lot of women that work and teach at UNLV.
Even if Willis pleas it down (which is most likely what will happen) the damage has been done.
What I do know, is that there will be a lot of pressure to get Willis back on the court; I guess we're going to learn a little about Lon Kruger this year.
Even if Willis pleas it down (which is most likely what will happen) the damage has been done.
What I do know, is that there will be a lot of pressure to get Willis back on the court; I guess we're going to learn a little about Lon Kruger this year.
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CougarClawcraigoscarson wrote:
I'm not sure that Willis can survive this. A crime against a woman where it appears he strangled her and took her phone so that she couldn't contact anyone (which is why both were charged as felonies) will get the attention of a lot of women that work and teach at UNLV.
Even if Willis pleas it down (which is most likely what will happen) the damage has been done.
What I do know, is that there will be a lot of pressure to get Willis back on the court; I guess we're going to learn a little about Lon Kruger this year.
maybe UNLV can leverage this into a Pac-0 invite.
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MarsLon Kruger has always come across as a very classy coach to me.
I'll be surprised if Willis survives this one.
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CougarClawKruger won't make a decision until he "has all the facts". Good luck replacing your top scorer and one of your top D-players.
It's unfortunate that when BYU beats UNLV both times this year, they'll be able to come back and say yeah, but we lost all our best criminals.
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GunkCougarClaw wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Tre-Von-Willis-arrest-may-spoil-a-special-seaso?urn=ncaab,252431&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Kruger won't make a decision until he "has all the facts". Good luck replacing your top scorer and one of your top D-players.
It's unfortunate that when BYU beats UNLV both times this year, they'll be able to come back and say yeah, but we lost all our best criminals.
I wonder if there's a correlation...
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craigoscarsonGunk wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Tre-Von-Willis-arrest-may-spoil-a-special-seaso?urn=ncaab,252431&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Kruger won't make a decision until he "has all the facts". Good luck replacing your top scorer and one of your top D-players.
It's unfortunate that when BYU beats UNLV both times this year, they'll be able to come back and say yeah, but we lost all our best criminals.
I wonder if there's a correlation...
correlation between Tre'Von and UNLV choking in the NCAAs?
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BerliNYcraigoscarson wrote:CougarClaw wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Tre-Von-Willis-arrest-may-spoil-a-special-seaso?urn=ncaab,252431&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Kruger won't make a decision until he "has all the facts". Good luck replacing your top scorer and one of your top D-players.
It's unfortunate that when BYU beats UNLV both times this year, they'll be able to come back and say yeah, but we lost all our best criminals.
I wonder if there's a correlation...
correlation between Tre'Von and UNLV choking in the NCAAs?
Ziiiiing!
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CougarClawone count of battery/domestic violence.
Usually charges aren't filed if the DA's office doesn't think they can get them to stick.
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CougarClawNot-guilty plea and an arraignment date of Aug 3.
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Italicsif this punk were on Rose's or Bronco's team, his a$$ would have hit the curb a long time ago
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GunkCougarClaw wrote:http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jul/21/unlv-basketball-player-gets-misdemeanor-trial-date/
Not-guilty plea and an arraignment date of Aug 3.
If he wants any chance of playing he has to plea not-guilty and hope he has good lawyer. If he pleaded guilty we would have immediately put UNLV in a hard spot. Now, he at least has a chance.
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Mars"Ike Turner" Willis pleads not guilty:
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CougarClawWhat are the odds this is resolved before the season? Could Willis possibly go through the entire season with this hanging over his head?
Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
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MarsCougarClaw wrote:
What are the odds this is resolved before the season? Could Willis possibly go through the entire season with this hanging over his head? Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
I've heard that:
A- The trial won't begin until November, and could take a long time.
B- Lon Kruger won't do anything until the trial is over.
If true, he could possibly play the whole season. And if that happens, Kruger is forever a dirty coach in my book.
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SpiffCougGuys, so he may or may not have beat up his girlfriend. It's not like he was trespassing at the Thomas & Mack!
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ABYUFANkitic77 wrote:
Guys, so he may or may not have beat up his girlfriend. It's not like he was trespassing at the Thomas & Mack!
:lol: :lol: Thumbs up!
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GunkMars wrote:What are the odds this is resolved before the season? Could Willis possibly go through the entire season with this hanging over his head? Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
I've heard that:
A- The trial won't begin until November, and could take a long time.
B- Lon Kruger won't do anything until the trial is over.
If true, he could possibly play the whole season. And if that happens, Kruger is forever a dirty coach in my book.
Which is why he pleaded not guilty. If he pleaded guilty, Kruger would have had to do something about it now. instead, he'll get to play the whole season. Willis of course will be plagued with all sorts of heckling and this could result in some very bad press for Kruger, especially if Willis is convicted.
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CougarClawGunk wrote:CougarClaw wrote:
What are the odds this is resolved before the season? Could Willis possibly go through the entire season with this hanging over his head? Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
I've heard that:
A- The trial won't begin until November, and could take a long time.
B- Lon Kruger won't do anything until the trial is over.
If true, he could possibly play the whole season. And if that happens, Kruger is forever a dirty coach in my book.
Which is why he pleaded not guilty. If he pleaded guilty, Kruger would have had to do something about it now. instead, he'll get to play the whole season. Willis of course will be plagued with all sorts of heckling and this could result in some very bad press for Kruger, especially if Willis is convicted.
Assuming he is guilty, which is a still major assumption, you really think that he is risking going to jail for a longer period of time by being convicted rather than taking a guilty plea-bargain deal? all to play his senior season? I mean, I wouldn't put it past an 18 y.o. to think that way, but it sure seems short-sighted to risk a max sentence for one year of college ball. Hopefully he really is innocent, and his girlfriend made the whole thing up because.....um..... she's just a cruel person....and.....she hates UNLV basketball. :roll:
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GunkCougarClaw wrote:Mars wrote:What are the odds this is resolved before the season? Could Willis possibly go through the entire season with this hanging over his head? Can you IMAGINE the hecklers at ALL his away games (and possibly the home games too!) We thought missionary mockers were bad, we're going to see more jailbird outfits than a penitentiary.
I've heard that:
A- The trial won't begin until November, and could take a long time.
B- Lon Kruger won't do anything until the trial is over.
If true, he could possibly play the whole season. And if that happens, Kruger is forever a dirty coach in my book.
Which is why he pleaded not guilty. If he pleaded guilty, Kruger would have had to do something about it now. instead, he'll get to play the whole season. Willis of course will be plagued with all sorts of heckling and this could result in some very bad press for Kruger, especially if Willis is convicted.
Assuming he is guilty, which is a still major assumption, you really think that he is risking going to jail for a longer period of time by being convicted rather than taking a guilty plea-bargain deal? all to play his senior season? I mean, I wouldn't put it past an 18 y.o. to think that way, but it sure seems short-sighted to risk a max sentence for one year of college ball. Hopefully he really is innocent, and his girlfriend made the whole thing up because.....um..... she's just a cruel person....and.....she hates UNLV basketball. :roll:
Good point. More jail time is a risk, but given the state of prisons and assuming this is a first time offense, he probably wouldn't spend that much time behind bars (I'm sure he'd prefer spending zero time behind bars).
He plays his senior year and makes a good run, he has the chance to go pro. If he doesn't play his senior year then that opportunity is gone. The NBA tends to be a bit more lenient when it comes to employing social misfits than colleges do; so no, I don't put it past him to think it may be worth it to plead not guilty so he can play his senior year.
Besides, a "not guilty" plea doesn't mean he's claiming he didn't do it. Just means he's not guilty of what ever transpired.
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