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Unga Story Might Not Be Over

by snoscythe · 5/31/2010

snoscythe

5/31/2010, 3:40:38 PM

NOTE--if you don't believe something without a substantiating link, stop reading here--I don't have a corroborating source...yet.

I was talking to a friend who plays at USU but who does conditioning etc work with several BYU guys and was in town this morning for the Memorial Day weekend to visit family. According to him, Harvey got word on Friday that the door is still open to let him come back. Considering the less-than-official announcements that Harvey couldn't get back, I wonder if there isn't still a possibility that Harvey returns?

SpiffCoug

5/31/2010, 6:17:42 PM

I don't know. This article (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700033618/BYU-football-Unga-will-not-return-to-Cougars.html) says this:

Unga, who is BYU's all-time leading rusher with 3,455 yards, cannot be readmitted to school until January 2011, at the earliest, BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said Wednesday.

That seems pretty official to me. Harvey's not coming back. I'll go with an official BYU spokesman being quoted in the Deserte news over a USU football player.

jonnylingo

5/31/2010, 6:44:54 PM

I would imagine the doors says "To enter this door you must marry her!"

GolfDiveNCougs

5/31/2010, 6:53:53 PM

Where do they sell doors that say that??? Awesome!!!

:lol:

Mars

6/1/2010, 5:24:48 AM

jonnylingo wrote:
I would imagine the doors says "To enter this door you must marry her!"

I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.

Italics

6/1/2010, 5:37:45 AM

snoscythe wrote:
NOTE--if you don't believe something without a substantiating link, stop reading here--I don't have a corroborating source...yet.

I was talking to a friend who plays at USU but who does conditioning etc work with several BYU guys and was in town this morning for the Memorial Day weekend to visit family. According to him, Harvey got word on Friday that the door is still open to let him come back. Considering the less-than-official announcements that Harvey couldn't get back, I wonder if there isn't still a possibility that Harvey returns?

Wasn't the official conclusion that Harvey could come back... in January? Are you sure your friend meant that Harvey is welcome to come back and take the field against UW?

jonnylingo

6/1/2010, 6:36:35 AM

Mars wrote:
I would imagine the doors says "To enter this door you must marry her!"

I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.

Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Mars

6/1/2010, 6:46:30 AM

jonnylingo wrote:
I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.
Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Was Harvey engaged to a rock? :lol:

urroner

6/1/2010, 10:35:37 AM

Mars wrote:
Mars wrote:
I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.
Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Was Harvey engaged to a rock? :lol:

Harvey needs to give the lady a rock. :love: :love:

Metal Bubba

6/1/2010, 11:02:46 AM

urroner wrote:
jonnylingo wrote:
I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.
Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Was Harvey engaged to a rock? :lol:

Harvey needs to give the lady a rock. :love: :love:

I think Harvey gave her a rock. That's how this all began.

Italics

6/1/2010, 3:30:10 PM

Metal Bubba wrote:
Mars wrote:
Mars wrote:
I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.
Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Was Harvey engaged to a rock? :lol:

Harvey needs to give the lady a rock. :love: :love:

I think Harvey gave her a rock. That's how this all began.

win.

PS - do you ever listen to Rhapsody (the band)?

Wickchad

6/1/2010, 4:04:23 PM

snoscythe wrote:
NOTE--if you don't believe something without a substantiating link, stop reading here--I don't have a corroborating source...yet.

I was talking to a friend who plays at USU but who does conditioning etc work with several BYU guys and was in town this morning for the Memorial Day weekend to visit family. According to him, Harvey got word on Friday that the door is still open to let him come back. Considering the less-than-official announcements that Harvey couldn't get back, I wonder if there isn't still a possibility that Harvey returns?

If the supplemental draft comes and goes without Harvey declaring then I would start believing that there may be something here. This book will be closed by mid July either way.

SpiffCoug

6/1/2010, 6:46:55 PM

Are there NFL restrctions from preventing Unga from signing as a free agent right now? To me, wouldn't it make more sense to get in camp with a team, start bonding with the team, start learning the playbook, etc. than waiting until the end of the summer to get with a team.

snoscythe

6/1/2010, 10:55:33 PM

kitic77 wrote:
Are there NFL restrctions from preventing Unga from signing as a free agent right now? To me, wouldn't it make more sense to get in camp with a team, start bonding with the team, start learning the playbook, etc. than waiting until the end of the summer to get with a team.

Your first year out of school, I believe you have two options--(1) get drafted, or (2) sign as an undrafted free agent. An "undrafted free agent" is someone who was eligible and declared for the draft and went unselected. Unga did not declare for the April draft, but he is eligible for the Supplemental Draft as there has been an unforeseen change in circumstances since the deadline for April draft. So, if Harvey wants to sign a UFA contract this summer, he has to have his name in the supplemental draft. Otherwise, he has to wait a year from his last college game to sign a regular FA contract.

At least that is my understanding of the CBA rules on new entrants to the league.

SpiffCoug

6/1/2010, 11:09:22 PM

So after the supplemental draft - provided he applies for it, if he goes undrafted in it, he could sign with a team.

snoscythe

6/1/2010, 11:27:35 PM

kitic77 wrote:
So after the supplemental draft - provided he applies for it, if he goes undrafted in it, he could sign with a team.

Yes. But if he doesn't declare for the supplemental draft, the earliest he could sign would be the open of free agency after this upcoming season.

Guest

6/2/2010, 12:20:27 AM

snoscythe wrote:
So after the supplemental draft - provided he applies for it, if he goes undrafted in it, he could sign with a team.

Yes. But if he doesn't declare for the supplemental draft, the earliest he could sign would be the open of free agency after this upcoming season.

Could he enter next years draft, albeit without playing another down of college football between now and then? I'm assuming so, but it would be a big gamble.

snoscythe

6/2/2010, 12:33:49 AM

hawkwing wrote:
kitic77 wrote:
So after the supplemental draft - provided he applies for it, if he goes undrafted in it, he could sign with a team.

Yes. But if he doesn't declare for the supplemental draft, the earliest he could sign would be the open of free agency after this upcoming season.

Could he enter next years draft, albeit without playing another down of college football between now and then? I'm assuming so, but it would be a big gamble.

Actually, the more I look at it, it appears that you must enter the NFL via a draft--either by being drafted or being in the pool. I don't know if Clarret and Williams were forced to enter the 2005 draft because they weren't eligible for either of the 2004 drafts, or if they simply had to be in a draft before they could sign a FA contract of any sort. In any event, Harvey can't hook-up with a team until next Spring, whether it be through free-agency or the draft.

Y 4 Ever

6/2/2010, 1:22:34 AM

snoscythe wrote:
NOTE--if you don't believe something without a substantiating link, stop reading here--I don't have a corroborating source...yet.

I was talking to a friend who plays at USU but who does conditioning etc work with several BYU guys and was in town this morning for the Memorial Day weekend to visit family. According to him, Harvey got word on Friday that the door is still open to let him come back. Considering the less-than-official announcements that Harvey couldn't get back, I wonder if there isn't still a possibility that Harvey returns?

Sno...we're all just getting over our "mourning" period, and then you have to go pour salt into the wound! Just let us all assume he's gone until/unless we see him standing in the backfield on opening day.

Ddawg

6/2/2010, 1:42:44 AM

Mars wrote:
Mars wrote:
I was told that Harvey and his girlfriend decided to temporarily leave school after receiving advice in a meeting with their BYU ward bishop about getting married.
Who told you that? Was it a rock that you found that talks to you?

Was Harvey engaged to a rock? :lol:

Ouch!!!!!

;)

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