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Why I am proud of the Honor Code

by Mars · 4/21/2010

Mars

4/21/2010, 5:29:40 AM

Is BYU football a missionary tool? When the Cougars win, some people may gain interest in the Church. Then people realize how BYU is winning, and why it's important to us:

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/13256720/oldschool-byu-wins-with-honor-code-and-without-sex

Mars

4/21/2010, 5:37:43 AM

I did enjoy this article: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20100420_You_Talkin__to_Me___Sex__beer__cigarettes_-_not_at_Brigham_Young.html

Specifically this quote:

" Why would someone interested in having sex go to BYU in the first place? That's like someone interested in an education going to Florida State. "

BYUBALLIN

4/23/2010, 2:49:44 AM

great read. I love the honor code. You dont like choose it, than choose the other 800 colleges without one. simple as that.

a1247

4/23/2010, 3:05:52 AM

BYUBALLIN wrote:
great read. I love the honor code. You dont like choose it, than choose the other 800 colleges without one. simple as that.

I hate the honor code! If you have a problem with me not liking it I could careless. Believe it or not but I can be a fan of BYU but not like the honor code or even more NOT be Mormon. So anyone can take those other 800 colleges and shove up there own arse. Its a simple as that.

Schmoe

4/23/2010, 3:46:50 AM

a1247 wrote:
great read. I love the honor code. You dont like choose it, than choose the other 800 colleges without one. simple as that.

I hate the honor code! If you have a problem with me not liking it I could careless. Believe it or not but I can be a fan of BYU but not like the honor code or even more NOT be Mormon. So anyone can take those other 800 colleges and shove up there own arse. Its a simple as that.

The point is not that you have to love the honor code as a fan, but you must realize that anyone who chooses to go to BYU and then whines about the honor code probably should take their brain and shove it up THEIR own arse.

Mars

4/23/2010, 6:07:16 AM

a1247 wrote:
take those other 800 colleges and shove up there own arse.

I am Mormon. My older sister got a full-ride athletic scholarship to Arizona, mainly because BYU's coach expected her to go there without bothering to recruit her very hard. I spent 3 months one summer living with her and her teammates in Tucson. That's when I learned that I did NOT want to go to a University where drinking was the #1 social activity.

My grades and test scores were good enough that I didn't have to worry about whether or not I would get accepted, so I only applied to BYU, nowhere else. And yes, the freshman dorms took some major adjustments for this California kid to get used to. So did going the the Temple, the MTC, my mission, and married life. All of which I feel have made me, personally, a better person.

That, in part, is why I love BYU so much. My 2 year old daughter has a full football uniform, including a helmet. Why? Not just because I want her to be a huge sports fan. But because it's one small influence I can introduce to her life that I honestly think will help her make better choices, have a successful college career someday, meet a great guy, and have a happy life. And I'm sorry, but I don't see being a 49ers fan as having any positive or negative influence on my children. And the University of Arizona, as nice as it, just can't offer those benefits to my kids in nearly the same way.

bigbluepuma

4/25/2010, 3:29:06 AM

Well said, Mars. Thank you. Joseph Smith once said something to the effect of, A church that doesn't expect a lot from it's members will never have the power to get them back to heavenly father. The same principle is true for BYU. Without the HC, BYU is just like every university in the world. The Lord never does things just like the world. The difference in BYU (The HC) is what makes it special. Going to BYU for the special experience, then complaining about the HC is like moving to the coiuntry to get away from the city, then complaining that there are flies. You just plain can't have it both ways!

urroner

4/25/2010, 11:09:12 AM

bigbluepuma wrote:
Well said, Mars. Thank you. Joseph Smith once said something to the effect of, A church that doesn't expect a lot from it's members will never have the power to get them back to heavenly father.

âA religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has the power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation.â

bigbluepuma

4/25/2010, 8:02:40 PM

Thanks!

Italics

4/30/2010, 5:14:39 AM

It's sad that so many of you think the HC is the greatest thing about BYU.

My geek-o-meter is going off the handle...

I'd be interested to see how many of you would actually keep the commandments if you didn't go to BYU.

Not many of you.

And no, that's not a sign that the HC is a great thing.

It's a sign of your own weak testimony and lack of will power.

Mars

4/30/2010, 11:31:54 AM

Italics wrote:
I'd be interested to see how many of you would actually keep the commandments if you didn't go to BYU. Not many of you.

If you are being serious right now -and you make it extremely hard to take you seriously- I feel bad for you.

Sammich

4/30/2010, 2:58:04 PM

Italics wrote:
It's sad that so many of you think the HC is the greatest thing about BYU.

My geek-o-meter is going off the handle...

I'd be interested to see how many of you would actually keep the commandments if you didn't go to BYU.

Not many of you.

And no, that's not a sign that the HC is a great thing.

It's a sign of your own weak testimony and lack of will power.

:roll:

snoscythe

4/30/2010, 6:36:15 PM

Oh no....this guy thinks I'm a geek for liking commitment to higher standards rather than settling for the minimum:

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs005.snc1/4161_102676906012_604241012_3066041_3228204_n.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">

ABYUFAN

4/30/2010, 6:53:00 PM

snoscythe wrote:
Oh no....this guy thinks I'm a geek for liking commitment to higher standards rather than settling for the minimum:

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs005.snc1/4161_102676906012_604241012_3066041_3228204_n.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">

I almost also dug that picture up as well (the guy on the right). :sick:

Italics

4/30/2010, 7:24:16 PM

snoscythe wrote:
Oh no....this guy thinks I'm a geek for liking commitment to higher standards rather than settling for the minimum:

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs005.snc1/4161_102676906012_604241012_3066041_3228204_n.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">

hm? The picture was meant to be weird. Unless you think I wear makeup and stare into my friends eyes every day....

which would be completely false, because I only do that on weekends.

Besides, you need some new material. That picture is now 5 years old. I've seen your facebook, and if we're going to compare normal pictures, you win the "geeky looking mormon guy" award, no contest.

Guest

4/30/2010, 7:41:09 PM

No personal attacks, if you can't attack the arguments don't attack the arguer.

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