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Anyone know anything about this kid...

by bostoncoug · 3/16/2010

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Short_Change
Sounds like the kid can play. He had some good games down the stretch. He had two double-doubles this year and a few more where he was close. He also had two or more blocks in 7 games. Not too shabby for a Sophomore in the Big 12.
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beauso79
Anybody know if he'd be eligible to play next season or would he have to sit out a year??
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Lawboy
beauso79 wrote:
Anybody know if he'd be eligible to play next season or would he have to sit out a year??


Will have to sit a year. It is a D-1 t oD-1 school transfer, so like the Kaveinga transfer, you have to sit.
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scott715
His HS coach announced that the top 3 are Cal, Virginia and LSU. I thought he wanted to be closer to home?
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craigoscarson
What we need is a rebounder or defensive game changer next season. to help with the transition for Davies; Hamilton wouldn't be eligible next season The odds of finding a prep kid that can come in and immediately comtribute are low (there just aren't any stud big men on our radar) so the next thing is to scour the JUCO for a 4,5 that can give us good minutes. If we find a JUCO big this year and he pans out, we can afford to redshirt Harward and Austin their freshmen years at the Y, which would be huge.



Now, the 7'2" lds kid that transferred from arizona state and is due back this year would have been a nice get.



Since Hamilton, has to sit out a year, it probably doesn't make much sense for him to compete with Brandon Davies (3 left), Nate Austin (5 to play 4 after mission), Ian Harward (5 to play 4 after mission), James Anderson (2 left), and Chris Collinsworth (4 to play 3) (at least for him, for us it makes a ton of sense, especially if Davies decides on a mission) - given Hamiltons #s and minimal ability to run the court like a Davies or Hartsock, I don't think he projects as a starter for us in a year from now (when he becomes eligible to play for another D1 team) BUT if he uses the transfer year to get better, he'll be a nice role player for whoever gets him.



btw - Hamilton was not particularly highly regarded out of high school (though he was recruited by BYU) but has put up ok numbers (not great but he does board and block shots) at ISU as a soph ; particularly towards the end of the season when given minutes (in fact he actually beat KSU this year at KSU)



There's a good chance that Harward and even Austin could develop in the same mold in the future.



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41070



though look at Hartsocks #s... (comparable and he fits in our offense better than a slow lumbering center)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41278
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Mars
scott715 wrote:
His HS coach announced that the top 3 are Cal, Virginia and LSU. I thought he wanted to be closer to home?

" Former Iowa State basketball starter Justin Hamilton still wants to transfer to a school closer to his home in Alpine, Utah. It’s just that the interest isn’t as reciprocal as he had hoped. “It’s just worked out that the schools that are looking at me the most seriously aren’t closer to home,” Hamilton said. “I might not have any other choice.”



The 6-foot-11 Hamilton visited Virginia and plans to visit LSU “in a couple weeks.” The Virginia coach is Tony Bennett, who recruited Hamilton when he coached at Washington State. Hamilton knows LSU coach Trent Johnson from his days as the Stanford coach. “If I go to one of those schools, it’s not like I won’t know anyone,” Hamilton said. “I’m familiar with them.” The sophomore started 31 games last season and averaged 6.4 points a game.



He announced in a statement after the season he was transferring to be closer to home. “I’m still trying to get closer to home, but I don’t know if it’s going to happen,” he said. “I might see about UCLA — that’s closer to home — or BYU.” "



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100403/SPORTS/100403014/In-the-Loop-Items-on-Justin-Hamilton-George-Raveling-Tim-Floyd-Larry-Eustachy-and-R



I'd cut Zylstra, Magnusson, and Anderson to land this kid -Justin Hamilton from Iowa State- and/or Stephen Rodgers from ASU. And if we managed to do so and land them both in that circumstance we'd still have two scholarships left over! !
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CougarClaw
Just out of curiosity, who is BYU looking at if not this kid?


It's just worked out that the schools that are looking at me the most seriously aren't closer to home


I like Davies, but he's still a work in process and the drop after him was quite steep this year. isn't Center where we need the most help?
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craigoscarson
CougarClaw wrote:
Just out of curiosity, who is BYU looking at if not this kid?


It's just worked out that the schools that are looking at me the most seriously aren't closer to home


I like Davies, but he's still a work in process and the drop after him was quite steep this year. isn't Center where we need the most help?




Keep in mind the issue here is that Hamilton can't play next season; otherwise this would be a no brainer. Dave Rose had no problem taking JT off the bench, he certainly would have no problem bringing Daviess of the bench if Hamilton could play next season... he can't so that's a moot point.



So then you have to decide what you're going to do with scholarships, (magnusson, zylstra, martineau) and redshirts when Austin and Harward get off their missions.



If you tell Justin Hamilton that he'll play starters minutes after next season and his senior year, you're looking at

a senior Noah Hartsock, a junior Brandon Davies, a junior Justin Hamilton, a senior James Anderson, a junior Chris Collinsworth and RM freshmen Nate Austin, Ian Harward, and Boswell (Boswell was a walkon but has potential) putting 7 scholarships into the 4,5 position. Throw in Stephen Rogers the juco kid, and now you have 8 4,5s in 2 years from now; leaving 5 scholarships for the 1,2,3.

That makes ZERO SENSE unless you drop someone currently on scholarship now; however if you can make it work then every season for the next 5 years our team will be NCAA tourney worthy considering the guards we have coming in.



I'd imagine it's weighing on Dave Rose how he can make this work and if it's worth taking a scholarship from a kid like James Anderson, Brock Zylstra, or Nick Martineau to improve this team.



I think if Rogers and Hamilton are willing, you drop someone and make it happen... I'm not sure if Coach Rose feels the same way.
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CougarClaw wrote:
Just out of curiosity, who is BYU looking at if not this kid?

Mesa Community College's 6-8 Stephen Rodgers, Sandy's 6-9 Neil Monson, and Forward James Johnson from Hollywood, CA, among others.
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BYULV
CougarClaw wrote:
Just out of curiosity, who is BYU looking at if not this kid?




I heard Rose was really working hard to get one of these two:



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No, wait, that was Boylen considering these guys.



I think Utah is more likely to land one of these two:



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At least they seem to fill the arena more than the current Ute team.
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http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=14090&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=14133&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/25/10008892/USU-Aggies-blog-Rogers-scratches-N-Mexico.html



So Rogers elimated Utah from his list, then said that he would make a decision imediately after visiting New Mexico, without visiting BYU. Coach Rose made a 3 1/2 hour home visit, and then Rogers eliminated New Mexico from his list, and is now making a 3-day official visit to BYU at the end of the week (this week or next, I'm not sure) instead, and will decide between BYU and Utah State soon after that. He says he likes BYU's tradition, but he likes that USU is trying to get a win in the Big Dance. I think he's ours to lose now.
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craigoscarson
That's the last we hear of this knucklehead, he's not athletic enough to survive the SEC. They might not play great hoops in the SEC but they play a brand that will eat Hamilton alive. That was a very poor decision. His numbers really aren't better than Hartsocks, so he didnt' really fit in at the Y unless we released a scholarship or redshirted both 7 footers on missions.



Rumor is that no one in the Pac 10 wanted to guarantee Hamilton the minutes he wanted. LSU is nowhere "close to home"



The guy we want/need is Stephen Rogers and we should know what his plans are in the next week. crossed fingers....
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Qman
How athletic is Rodgers? Is he more of 3 or a 4?
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craigoscarson
Qman wrote:
How athletic is Rodgers? Is he more of 3 or a 4?


He's a 3 capable of playing the 4 in our zone defense. Our offense doesn't really use a "4" so he would fit very well in our offense. He'd really could be the final piece of the puzzle for a deep run in the dance.



We wouldn't have to lean on either of the Collinsworths; the pressure would be off them (1 mission rust 1 true freshmen) to just wreck havoc off the bench and we wouldn't miss Tyler Haws one bit while he's on his mission.



Rogers decision could hinge on whether or not he wants to play in an up tempo system like ours or a boring plodding offense like USU OR it could be all about wanting to start, and in that case Coach Rose has to decide if Abouo is the guy or he's just going to be a complementary bench player.



Regardless, we need the depth and length (6'8" 3 man is nice; like the Koch brothers at UNI) and if it means that Abouo comes off the bench and Rogers starts; then start Rogers for the good of the team and our chances in the NCAAs. If Rogers is willing to come in and compete for the job, even better,
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BoiseBYU
Mars wrote:


Rogers visited BYU, did not commit: http://blogs.sltrib.com/byu/index.php?p=14490&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1



Word on the street is that he may be favoring Utah State, since they offer immediate playing time: http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=14494&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1



Rogers to decide by Wednesday or Thursday: http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=14522&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

http://blogs.sltrib.com/byu/index.php?p=14537&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1


If he commits to USU he will love those exciting WAC games like the ones at BSU in front of a few thousand bored fans
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