Quarterback Race, Ashworth Interview

http://heraldextra.com/sports/college/byu/football/article_8736c516-c22e-5916-8999-175e9ebddc77.html



sorry, its from that one website but I thought it was a good read.



I like hearing how hard they are all already working.

The line that will surprise a lot of people?



Riley Nelson is the only quarterback he chose to describe as "very accurate" when a lot of posters on here have questioned his arm.

snoscythe wrote:
The line that will surprise a lot of people?



Riley Nelson is the only quarterback he chose to describe as "very accurate" when a lot of posters on here have questioned his arm.

I'm no QB analyst. But Nelson's throws didn't look half bad when he was playing last year.

Nice link lingo. Ashworth sounds like he's got his head on pretty straight. Look forward to seeing him on the field with whoever comes out in front of the QB race.

I have no insight to the QB race. But I think I've come to the conclusion that BYU doesn't have a wrong choice to make. I think we can and will be successful in 2010 if Nelson or Heaps are running the plays.

Heaps will have lots of roll outs and sweet passes, Nelson will have lots of Steve Young breakdown run for lots of yards plays, Maybe the Crowton style isn't the worst thing this year (2 qbs per game)

I'm behind any idea that uses both of these guys for their strengths. Let our opponents this year game plan for 2 guys and a lot of different looks.

Y&Brit wrote:
Heaps will have lots of roll outs and sweet passes, Nelson will have lots of Steve Young breakdown run for lots of yards plays, Maybe the Crowton style isn't the worst thing this year (2 qbs per game)

That works, only if both QBs are on board with it. They both need to want the other to do his best, even if it is better (kind of a Tavernary type attitude). If they will both consider team success more important than their own part, they can combine for great things. Sometimes, giving the glory away is what brings it back to yourself.

If Heaps doesn't win the job, does he go on a mission and come back for Lark's senior year? Not a bad idea!

Ashworth was the consumate diplomat. I didn't see anything he said that might alienate him from any eventual starter. Smart boy. 8) 8)

Y&Brit wrote:
Heaps will have lots of roll outs and sweet passes, Nelson will have lots of Steve Young breakdown run for lots of yards plays, Maybe the Crowton style isn't the worst thing this year (2 qbs per game)

I'm trying to remember the last successful passing team in which the QBs split their time relatively evenly. I can't really think of any recently. The last good example in BYU history is 1978, when Wilson was a junior and McMahon was a sophomore. It didn't work too well because redshirted McMahon the next year so they could get a full year out of him later.



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Mingjai wrote:

Heaps will have lots of roll outs and sweet passes, Nelson will have lots of Steve Young breakdown run for lots of yards plays, Maybe the Crowton style isn't the worst thing this year (2 qbs per game)

I'm trying to remember the last successful passing team in which the QBs split their time relatively evenly. I can't really think of any recently. The last good example in BYU history is 1978, when Wilson was a junior and McMahon was a sophomore. It didn't work too well because redshirted McMahon the next year so they could get a full year out of him later.



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2006 Florida Gators did a pretty good job winning the BCS title with Chris Leak starting and sharing time with freshman Tim Tebow.

Lark has really surprised a lot folks so far too.



Bottom line... whoever ends up starting is going to take us to another double-digit-win season.

gmj81 wrote:
Lark has really surprised a lot folks so far too.



Bottom line... whoever ends up starting is going to take us to another double-digit-win season.

gmj81, where are you getting your info about Lark etc? I'd love to follow everyone's progression a little closer.

gmj81 wrote:
Lark has really surprised a lot folks so far too.



Bottom line... whoever ends up starting is going to take us to another double-digit-win season.

I'm optimistic, but I don't understand THIS kind of optimism.



I'll be impressed if we go 2-3 against Wash, FSU, TCU, Utah, and our bowl game.



Definitely possible, but I'm not sure I'd consider it a lock.

Nothing is set in stone, I'm sure, but I don't think Heaps plans on a mission. And I'm not sure his decision will be affected by how the QB race pans out.



It does seem like Lark is making a better-than-expected showing this off-season. He was completely unimpressive before he left on his mission.



I think Riley is benefiting from some excellent QB tutelage. Bear in mind, however, that he is the only one of the 3 QB's vying for time that has experience throwing to these WR's, and so much of accuracy is timing, and the only way to know timing with specific receivers is experience.

declocoug wrote:

Lark has really surprised a lot folks so far too.



Bottom line... whoever ends up starting is going to take us to another double-digit-win season.

gmj81, where are you getting your info about Lark etc? I'd love to follow everyone's progression a little closer.

Lots of places. I don't remember where all from but I there have been a lot of folks who have posted it on Cougarboard (for what that's worth), Hans has said as much, I think even Dick Harmon has stated as much, but finally what Bronco has said about Lark upon his return carries the most weight in my book. And a lot of posters over at TBS have inside connections to the program and they occasionally share things they've heard or learned.

this is just the herald trying to spin Ashworth's comments into a "compelling comparison of the QB's" to get more hits on their website. This article was a just a tease. Ashworth would not say anything meaningful about the QB race right now. It was 100% politically correct. Unfortunately we will have to wait till spring to see how things are really going unless one of you will go sit on the second floor of the student athlete building and try to get a glimpse of how these guys are throwing and interacting with the wide outs. Who would like to do that? Any takers? When it comes to timing, this is a bit over rated in my opinion, because each QB knows how to throw the ball and knows how to take his drops and understands how to progress from route to route. Timing will not be an issue with any of them, this isn't junior high and Ashworth knows that. It would have been just as valuable if Ashworth would have pointed out how critical it is to throw a spiral and have good footwork....means nothing. Go Heaps.

QuarterbackU wrote:
this is just the herald trying to spin Ashworth's comments into a "compelling comparison of the QB's" to get more hits on their website. This article was a just a tease. Ashworth would not say anything meaningful about the QB race right now. It was 100% politically correct. Unfortunately we will have to wait till spring to see how things are really going unless one of you will go sit on the second floor of the student athlete building and try to get a glimpse of how these guys are throwing and interacting with the wide outs. Who would like to do that? Any takers? When it comes to timing, this is a bit over rated in my opinion, because each QB knows how to throw the ball and knows how to take his drops and understands how to progress from route to route. Timing will not be an issue with any of them, this isn't junior high and Ashworth knows that. It would have been just as valuable if Ashworth would have pointed out how critical it is to throw a spiral and have good footwork....means nothing. Go Heaps.

I humbly disagree.



Timing means EVERYTHING to this offense. The windows are small and passing lanes are narrow. Knowing exactly where each receiver will be at each point in your progression is exactly what makes this offense run, and why a senior BYU QB is nearly unstoppable. Timing is the reason coaches use stop watches at practice.



A QB in this system will learn how each receiver breaks, when he breaks, how fast is moves in and out of his breaks, how fast he can accelerate, etc.



I'm just not sure how you can say timing is over-rated.

KYCoug wrote:

Y&Brit wrote:
Heaps will have lots of roll outs and sweet passes, Nelson will have lots of Steve Young breakdown run for lots of yards plays, Maybe the Crowton style isn't the worst thing this year (2 qbs per game)

I'm trying to remember the last successful passing team in which the QBs split their time relatively evenly. I can't really think of any recently. The last good example in BYU history is 1978, when Wilson was a junior and McMahon was a sophomore. It didn't work too well because redshirted McMahon the next year so they could get a full year out of him later.



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2006 Florida Gators did a pretty good job winning the BCS title with Chris Leak starting and sharing time with freshman Tim Tebow.

He said "passing" team.

mcgregor wrote:

this is just the herald trying to spin Ashworth's comments into a "compelling comparison of the QB's" to get more hits on their website. This article was a just a tease. Ashworth would not say anything meaningful about the QB race right now. It was 100% politically correct. Unfortunately we will have to wait till spring to see how things are really going unless one of you will go sit on the second floor of the student athlete building and try to get a glimpse of how these guys are throwing and interacting with the wide outs. Who would like to do that? Any takers? When it comes to timing, this is a bit over rated in my opinion, because each QB knows how to throw the ball and knows how to take his drops and understands how to progress from route to route. Timing will not be an issue with any of them, this isn't junior high and Ashworth knows that. It would have been just as valuable if Ashworth would have pointed out how critical it is to throw a spiral and have good footwork....means nothing. Go Heaps.

I humbly disagree.



Timing means EVERYTHING to this offense. The windows are small and passing lanes are narrow. Knowing exactly where each receiver will be at each point in your progression is exactly what makes this offense run, and why a senior BYU QB is nearly unstoppable. Timing is the reason coaches use stop watches at practice.



A QB in this system will learn how each receiver breaks, when he breaks, how fast is moves in and out of his breaks, how fast he can accelerate, etc.



I'm just not sure how you can say timing is over-rated.

The reason I'm saying it is because right now timing is a relatively easy thing. They are doing single pass routes, maybe some man to man or an occasional 7 on 7 drill. In these low stress situations a potential starting QB prospect at BYU should have no problem getting the ball their on time, spinning it well and putting some nice touch on it. Of course timing is critical to our offense, but it's over rated right now because they aren't live game situations, there is no pass rush, there isn't much defense to read at all.



Each of them should be very impressive at this stage...