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Navy Game

by BoiseBYU · 9/8/2020

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BoiseBYU
I have not been that happily bored in a long time
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EM_Puma
Solid win. I was very nervous. I knew they had a new QB, but I had never seen any of KN's teams get man handled like that.



I just watched the highlights of the Army Middle TN game and I'm not worried at all. MT didn't seem to be able to handle the option. Like they had never expected it. The turnover's killed MT too with Army grabbing two defensive TD's.
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byufan4ever
How much of this game was BYU being awesome vs. Navy just being horrible? They hadn't even done a single contact drill. I felt sorry for them.



TBH I'm not excited for the rest of the schedule. I watched this game on a free trial. Convince me why I should pay to watch the rest of season? I'm also saving up for a major purchase so I really am considering not subscribing to any TV service.
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byufan4ever wrote:

How much of this game was BYU being awesome vs. Navy just being horrible? They hadn't even done a single contact drill. I felt sorry for them.



TBH I'm not excited for the rest of the schedule. I watched this game on a free trial. Convince me why I should pay to watch the rest of season? I'm also saving up for a major purchase so I really am considering not subscribing to any TV service.


You can always sign up for new free trials around each game with temporary email addresses.



Also, I most likely will open the CougarCorner Cave to viewing most games for those who feel comfortable visiting someone else's house wear masks are not worn and crowds could get up to 10 or so people.
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frdbtr
Very happy with the win. I expected more out of Navy and I think Ken N did too. He said that wasn't the real Navy team out there and I believe him. Frankly, I think Army will be a tougher opponent and that isn't because Army won their opener. I think BYU can go undefeated with this schedule and hope BYU can add more games.
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vancouvercougar
We had a major wind storm in Vancouver WA and our power went out during halftime. It looks the second half was more of the same as the first half.
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EM_Puma
vancouvercougar wrote:

We had a major wind storm in Vancouver WA and our power went out during halftime. It looks the second half was more of the same as the first half.


Wow, must have been windy all over the west the last 2 days. I never heard or even thought of schools being closed for wind. That happened today in Utah. Incredible. I once worked for a company with regional offices in North Dakota. On one visit, the wind was so bad it actually smashed the side windows in 3 vehicles in the parking lot.



Yes, the 2nd half seemed to follow the same line of the 1st half.
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EM_Puma
I'm still trying to understand today how Navy believed it was okay to practice, but that tackling would endanger their players to such an extent that KN set the rules of practice to not include any such contact. It doesn't make sense. I'm sure, same as BYU, they were testing and now they played a game where they had to tackle. It's okay to risk that contact in a game, but not in practice. I guess I'm too logical, because that doesn't make sense to me, but gave him a huge out after getting blown off the field by BYU.
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BoiseBYU
EM_Puma wrote:

I'm still trying to understand today how Navy believed it was okay to practice, but that tackling would endanger their players to such an extent that KN set the rules of practice to not include any such contact. It doesn't make sense. I'm sure, same as BYU, they were testing and now they played a game where they had to tackle. It's okay to risk that contact in a game, but not in practice. I guess I'm too logical, because that doesn't make sense to me, but gave him a huge out after getting blown off the field by BYU.


I am sure a lack of scrimmaging affected Navy, but no amount of scrimmaging and live tackling would’ve stopped that debacle. Navy was owned on both sides of the line of scrimmage throughout the entire game. Even the second and third stringers controlled things.
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EM_Puma
BoiseBYU wrote:


I'm still trying to understand today how Navy believed it was okay to practice, but that tackling would endanger their players to such an extent that KN set the rules of practice to not include any such contact. It doesn't make sense. I'm sure, same as BYU, they were testing and now they played a game where they had to tackle. It's okay to risk that contact in a game, but not in practice. I guess I'm too logical, because that doesn't make sense to me, but gave him a huge out after getting blown off the field by BYU.


I am sure a lack of scrimmaging affected Navy, but no amount of scrimmaging and live tackling would’ve stopped that debacle. Navy was owned on both sides of the line of scrimmage throughout the entire game. Even the second and third stringers controlled things.


I agree. I just watched After Further Review on BYUtv and David Nixon pointed out that fact that it wasn't so much that Navy was not tackling effectively as it was that BYU was blowing the Midshipmen off the line and opening the way for the offense. That has nothing to do with lack of tackling in their fall camp.
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EM_Puma
Awesome.
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Wolverine
byufan4ever wrote:

How much of this game was BYU being awesome vs. Navy just being horrible? They hadn't even done a single contact drill. I felt sorry for them.



TBH I'm not excited for the rest of the schedule. I watched this game on a free trial. Convince me why I should pay to watch the rest of season? I'm also saving up for a major purchase so I really am considering not subscribing to any TV service.


If you can’t answer your own question, you should probably change your screen name. 8)
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EM_Puma wrote:


EM_Puma wrote:

I'm still trying to understand today how Navy believed it was okay to practice, but that tackling would endanger their players to such an extent that KN set the rules of practice to not include any such contact. It doesn't make sense. I'm sure, same as BYU, they were testing and now they played a game where they had to tackle. It's okay to risk that contact in a game, but not in practice. I guess I'm too logical, because that doesn't make sense to me, but gave him a huge out after getting blown off the field by BYU.


I am sure a lack of scrimmaging affected Navy, but no amount of scrimmaging and live tackling would’ve stopped that debacle. Navy was owned on both sides of the line of scrimmage throughout the entire game. Even the second and third stringers controlled things.


I agree. I just watched After Further Review on BYUtv and David Nixon pointed out that fact that it wasn't so much that Navy was not tackling effectively as it was that BYU was blowing the Midshipmen off the line and opening the way for the offense. That has nothing to do with lack of tackling in their fall camp.

I’m sure game speed was way different for the Navy players, but at the same time these are Division 1 football players. It’s not like they are Ziggy learning how to put pads on for the first time in their lives.
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scott715
https://kslsports.com/441629/byu-navy-tv-rating-labor-day/?



The game got 1.145M viewes. Was hoping for 3+.



However Sportsmediawatch prediction:



In ordinary times, the three-day Labor Day weekend marks the return of college football, with a full slate of games Saturday and primetime games Sunday and Monday. Not the case this year. Following a smattering of low-wattage games on Saturday, the Labor Day night game is the kind of matchup that would ordinarily air on CBSSN, or maybe ESPN2 after 10 PM ET. BYU and Navy are at least familiar names, but ratings figure to plunge from last year’s 3.3 for Notre Dame-Louisville. One bright side: in this ratings environment, anything above a 1.0 is pretty solid. Prediction: 1.5.”
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EM_Puma
Despite Sportsmediawatch's prediction, I was expecting a whole lot more from a country starving for sports. It was sad to see in the light that BYU's games usually do exceptionally well.



What I don't know is how they determine the numbers. I watched part of the Memphis State game on Saturday, but only because I was interested in an upset, and when I saw there there wasn't going to be one, then I turned it off because I had no skin in this game.



I would like to understand how they come up with the viewer's numbers. It seems to me like it would be difficult to find out for certain how many viewers there are. Just because I watched part of the game, does that figure in. I'm not understanding how they calculate, because I don't believe they can tell what program I'm watching, can they?
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EM_Puma wrote:

What I don't know is how they determine the numbers. I watched part of the Memphis State game on Saturday, but only because I was interested in an upset, and when I saw there there wasn't going to be one, then I turned it off because I had no skin in this game.



I would like to understand how they come up with the viewer's numbers. It seems to me like it would be difficult to find out for certain how many viewers there are. Just because I watched part of the game, does that figure in. I'm not understanding how they calculate, because I don't believe they can tell what program I'm watching, can they?


I've read a bit on the process and it seems like, outside of streaming services, viewers are projected based on companies, such as Neilsen, that select a subset of groups and may use a device fitted to TV sets.



My question to that is who are these people? I've never known one person who mentioned they were given such a device to be attached to their TV in all my life. In this day and age, I'd be surprised anyone would cooperate just on their own without any incentive.



I know in the late 1960's, early 1970's, we got a poll sent to our family at random from CBS to hand record a log for a whole week of what one member of the household watched that week and it didn't matter if others watched other shows. They didn't want to know what was watched by a household, but by one person in that household.



I've always been suspect of the numbers provided on viewership because I don't believe in the methods they use to procure that data are accurate.
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