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Trickle down impact of BIG10/PAC12 playing conference only

by Fido · 7/11/2020

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Fido
To see the direct impact of the announcement from both the BIG10 and PAC12 to only play conference games this fall, I ran through and evaluated what this does to each conference:



P5 Impact

BIG10 - Cancels 33 home and 8 road, and 1 neutral site game

PAC12 - Cancels 24 home and 11 road, and 1 neutral site game



This has got to be big as far as impact to their TV deals and inventory available to the networks let alone a big hit in revenue. But let's see what it does to the other P5 conferences.



BIG12 - loses 3 home and 2 road games

There isn't a huge impact here as the BIG12 already plays a 9 game conference schedule and typically schedules down for out of conference games.



SEC - loses 1 home and 1 neutral site game

ACC - loses 1 home and 1 road game

Minimal impact to teams in the 8-conference game SEC and ACC leagues.



G5 Impact

MAC - loses 11 road games

HUGE losses for the MAC--all 11 of these games are revenue providing and 4 schools (Bowling Green, Ball State, Central Michigan, and Northern Illinois) lose 2 of these games.



MWC - loses 6 home and 8 road games

With many games scheduled with the PAC12, the MWC takes a big hit as well--losing 14 games including 6 home games. Hawaii is the biggest loser here losing 1 home and 2 road games.



AAC - loses 1 home and 4 road games

It hurts to lose some pay games, but not a huge impact overall. No school loses more than 1 game.



CUSA - loses 2 road games

Sun Belt - loses 2 road games

Each conference loses a couple pay games but not a big impact overall.



Independent Impact

BYU - loses 1 home and 4 road games

Just like that we lose almost half our schedule--but fortunately keep most home games.



Notre Dame - loses 1 road, 1 home, 1 neutral site game

ND loses some big name match ups, but is expected to be okay overall with their ties to the ACC.



New Mexico State - loses 1 road game

UConn - loses 1 home and 1 road game

Army - loses 1 home (Princeton)

Minor impact to these independents. No other independent lost any games.
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nuk13
I'll say it again, BYU made a mistake not forming a conference with our old rivals.
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gingi
Is the PAC12 trying to save badly needed money by playing fewer payout games? They lose 30-ish conference wins. With conference-only games there will be exactly the same number of overall wins and overall losses for the conference so more teams will have a losing record. But they'll have more money.

If the season even happens.
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YNot
gingi wrote:

Is the PAC12 trying to save badly needed money by playing fewer payout games? They lose 30-ish conference wins. With conference-only games there will be exactly the same number of overall wins and overall losses for the conference so more teams will have a losing record. But they'll have more money.

If the season even happens.


I did a quick review of the cancelled PAC 12 games. Here's the breakdown:



1) 9 FCS payday home games



2) 17 other home games, including Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, TCU, and BYU (x3), and 7 v. MWC (including each of Hawaii and Fresno State twice), Houston, Rice, NMSU



3) USC v. Alabama in Arlington, TX



4) 11 road games, including Notre Dame, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State and 7 PAC @ MWC games including 2 at UNLV).



Ohio State

Notre Dame

Michigan

TCU

BYU x3

Houston

Hawaii x2

Fresno State x2

Colorado State

New Mexico

Utah State

Rice

New Mexico State



v. Alabama



at Notre Dame

at Texas A&M

at Texas Tech

at Oklahoma St.

at UNLV x2

at San Diego State

at Colorado State

at Wyoming

at Hawaii

at Utah State



FCS x 9
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SpiffCoug
We need the Bama game (or another team) to fill Week 2 now. We won't be able to start on time so we've already lost preparation time for Week 1.
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scott715
I heard team practice starts on Monday. Our Alabama game will be announced after SEC decides what they are going to do.
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scott715
https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/7/27/21340332/byu-football-alabama-byu-sec-decision-tom-holmoe-ncaa-waiver-coronavirus-utah-covid-19-utah-utes



BYU has also had discussions with TCU, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State of the Big 12 about possible September matchups to replace lost games, the Deseret News has learned.



“I have had a lot of conversations with a number of people,” Holmoe said last week, noting that “it would be nice” to replace Power Five conference teams on the schedule with other Power Five teams, “but it might not be realistic.”



Those are all Big12 teams. I like that.
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snoscythe
BYU better hurry up and get some September games scheduled, because October games won't be getting played this Fall.



If pro baseball, with all of its $$ and resources, with paid players who can self-isolate can't make it work, how is NCAA football going to keep its nose clean when a core aspect of your model is the fact that your players have to go to classes and interact pretty much daily with dozens if not hundreds of strangers on campus?



I don't think sports is sustainable more than a month or so without a "bubble", and even less sustainable with the NCAA student-as-an-amateur model.
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jadesroom
No Missouri and no possible match up with Alabama. This was definitely sucky news. I don't think the Big 12 will come to BYU's rescue. A home and home with Massachusetts isn't so bad, though.
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scott715
Chatter is building for BYU to Big12 for this year. I heard their fan boards are talking about it and support it. Networks will not pay as much for a 10 game season and do not want crappy games. I think this just might happen.



It is possible that we play 10 Big12 games and then add one or two more at the end to get to 12. We are not a member of that conference and so do not have to stop at 10. We just can't do it up front due to maybe getting sick before Big12 games.
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SpiffCoug
At this point, BYU should schedule only 4 games so that everyone who wants to, can red-shirt this year and retain their current level of eligibility.
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jadesroom
Reporters can push for BYU, and fans can push for BYU; but until an influential decision maker pushes for BYU, it ain't happening.
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scott715
Today UConn cancelled their football season.
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