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For those who like optimism: BYU Rallies to Finish the 2020 Recruiting Class

by Fido · 2/5/2020

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Fido
https://247sports.com/college/byu/Article/BYU-finishes-2020-recruiting-class-strong-143367887/



December 14, 2019 was the Saturday before the early signing period. On that Saturday, Andrew Gentry committed to Bronco Mendenhall and the Virginia Cavaliers. Gentry, a top 50 recruit in the 2020 class, was considered a BYU lean. In fact, all 14 crystal ball predictions pointed to Gentry signing with the Cougars.



The news was hard to digest for BYU fans. Gentry had been BYU’s top target for the better part of two years. Frankly, BYU did everything in their power to land Gentry’s services. Around the same time, new was getting around that long-time BYU commit, Bodie Schoonover, would decline to sign during the early signing period. Schoonover (who, as we would find out later, had decommitted) was deciding between UCLA and BYU. The outlook of the 2020 changed from promising to murky.



Since that day, BYU has rallied off a serious of recruiting wins in a row – BYU received 10 more commitments for the 2020 recruiting class. It’s the quality, not the quantity, of commits that is most impressive. These commits include guys like Kody Epps, Tate Romney, Jake Griffin, and Bodie Schoonover to a name a few.

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Not because those that that committed before aren’t good players, they are. In fact, a few of them will play major roles for BYU down the road. But 3 of BYU’s 4 highest-rated recruits have committed since that day.

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Historically, BYU’s average composite score has hovered around .822. Securing 10 commits with an average of .827 is an impressive feat for BYU.

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BYU finished the 2020 class with 160 points and the 72nd ranked recruiting class in the country. Of the 160 points, 92 points come from the 20 players who committed to BYU before December 14th. In other words, 68 points come from the 10 players who committed after that day.

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Missing out on Gentry was a tough pill to swallow – his commitment would have improved BYU’s class ranking by about 10 spots. BYU’s late rally, however, was encouraging for BYU fans. The 72nd ranked recruiting class is not where BYU fans want to be, but it is an improvement over 2018 and 2019. BYU will look to continue the upward momentum into 2021.
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I appreciate the attempted optimism by 247 sports. They've been spinning on Twitter for the last 2 years that 80 and 90 range classes are actually really deceiving and that this composite score is far more important.



But at least the class is in the low 70s instead of the high 80s or 90s as has been the norm lately.
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EM_Puma
Had I not read this over on CougarBoard, I might have felt better:



"There were 7 G5 teams who had a higher class ranking than BYU for 2020:

Cinci 47 (#42)

Boise 65 (#73)

Tulane 66 (#57)

ECU 67 (#110)

Toledo 68 (#114)

UCF 69 (#58)

L. Tech 71 (#115)

BYU 72 (#71)"




Come on! Out recruited by Toledo? Tulane?



I put the 2019 Strength of Schedule rankings to look at these rankings from another angle, because we have been told that we've put together schedules that will attract players since we're not a P5. I was surprised to find out that 3 of those teams had better SOS than BYU. (BUT NOT TOLEDO!!!!)



https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
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Fido
EM_Puma wrote:

Had I not read this over on CougarBoard, I might have felt better:



"There were 7 G5 teams who had a higher class ranking than BYU for 2020:

Cinci 47 (#42)

Boise 65 (#73)

Tulane 66 (#57)

ECU 67 (#110)

Toledo 68 (#114)

UCF 69 (#58)

L. Tech 71 (#115)

BYU 72 (#71)"




Come on! Out recruited by Toledo? Tulane?



I put the 2019 Strength of Schedule rankings to look at these rankings from another angle, because we have been told that we've put together schedules that will attract players since we're not a P5. I was surprised to find out that 3 of those teams had better SOS than BYU. (BUT NOT TOLEDO!!!!)



https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other


There seems to be those teams who get good recruiting classes but end up not being good teams for one reason or another. Houston is one who had popped up getting multiple 5 star guys for a while but have now settled back towards the mean. It is why "ranking" a draft class is so tough. But really if only 7 G5 teams had draft classes higher than BYU, isn't that good? It's not first place, but how many teams are they ahead of? :whistle: If we looked to verify how many P5 teams BYU was higher than would that look any better?
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EM_Puma
Fido wrote:

If we looked to verify how many P5 teams BYU was higher than would that look any better?


That's just it, we used to rank above the bottom of the P5's. The 247 Sports ranking I'm looking at only has Illinois out of ALL of the P5s that was out-recruited by BYU, and this is in an up year from the last two. Spin it any way you want, but it's just not working



I guess I just am not seeing the value of independence outside of money, and yes, that is a consideration, but as a fan, that's not what attracts me.
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byufan4ever
I love the ESPN deal and the ease of watching my Cougs on TV. However, I'm ready to join a conference that's not named MWC. Yes, we won a national championship 25 years ago. But you know what? Today we are a mid major and I'd be fine with joining the right G5 conference. Our recruiting says we belong in a G5 conference.
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a1247
byufan4ever wrote:

I love the ESPN deal and the ease of watching my Cougs on TV. However, I'm ready to join a conference that's not named MWC. Yes, we won a national championship 25 years ago. But you know what? Today we are a mid major and I'd be fine with joining the right G5 conference. Our recruiting says we belong in a G5 conference.


Haha 25 years ago don't we all wish, but 84 was 36 years ago.
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Guest
Read today that BYU's highest ranked commit in this class is lower than the average of Utah's class. Although there hasn't been a serious talent gap in the previous few years, there will be now as their classes for the last few years have seriously outgained ours.
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byufan4ever
a1247 wrote:


I love the ESPN deal and the ease of watching my Cougs on TV. However, I'm ready to join a conference that's not named MWC. Yes, we won a national championship 25 years ago. But you know what? Today we are a mid major and I'd be fine with joining the right G5 conference. Our recruiting says we belong in a G5 conference.


Haha 25 years ago don't we all wish, but 84 was 36 years ago.


Well time sure does fly! Man, that means I'm 10 years older than I thought I was...
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snoscythe
As usually happens, BYU's recruiting class has slid in the days after signing day. The class is now ranked number 78 on 24/7 sports.com



Last season's class was ranked number 76, so not exactly what you would call improvement.
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BroncoBot
snoscythe wrote:

As usually happens, BYU's recruiting class has slid in the days after signing day. The class is now ranked number 78 on 24/7 sports.com



Last season's class was ranked number 76, so not exactly what you would call improvement.


ya know, You could have let me live in my ignorance.
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ABYUFAN
snoscythe wrote:

As usually happens, BYU's recruiting class has slid in the days after signing day. The class is now ranked number 78 on 24/7 sports.com



Last season's class was ranked number 76, so not exactly what you would call improvement.


78 is a really good number. I can totally live with that. I like to think that teams with recruiting rankings in the mid to high 70's are like cars made in the mid to late 70's.



Who wouldn't want to be seen driving this gem...

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/00D0D_i6aRDQZvqEK_1200x900.jpg" alt="" loading="lazy" style="max-width:100%">
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Oh boy.
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SpiffCoug
I'm afraid of how far the program is going to slip the next 3 to 4 years with Kalani at the helm.



Hopefully the two new recruiting coordinators can help things. Maybe they can spend time with Mark Pope and staff and get some ideas.
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