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BYU Stanford Extend Series...

by byufan4ever · 1/29/2020

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byufan4ever
https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/29/stanford-football-byu-future-four-game-series/


So, with today’s announcement, below is a look at what is now an eight-game series between Stanford football and BYU:

•Nov. 28, 2020, at Stanford

•Nov. 26, 2022, at Stanford

•Sept. 13, 2025, at BYU

•Nov. 28, 2026, at Stanford*

•Nov. 25, 2028, at Stanford*

•Sept. 1, 2029, at BYU

•Aug. 30, 2031, at BYU*

•Sept. 1, 2035, at BYU*



(*Games added through today’s extension)


So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...
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ABYUFAN
byufan4ever wrote:

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/29/stanford-football-byu-future-four-game-series/


So, with today’s announcement, below is a look at what is now an eight-game series between Stanford football and BYU:

•Nov. 28, 2020, at Stanford

•Nov. 26, 2022, at Stanford

•Sept. 13, 2025, at BYU

•Nov. 28, 2026, at Stanford*

•Nov. 25, 2028, at Stanford*

•Sept. 1, 2029, at BYU

•Aug. 30, 2031, at BYU*

•Sept. 1, 2035, at BYU*



(*Games added through today’s extension)


So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...

Have we seen anyone cancel their return trip to Provo yet? I cannot think of any. I don't think that the Stanford Athletic Dept has sooooo much cash laying around that they'll buy out three games.
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coachK
Hopefully Stanford is more honorable to it's commitments than say ... Notre Dame
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Fido
Its a nice addition. True that the first half of both 4-game series is @ Stanford--but those are Thanksgiving weekend games each of those 4 years. And it is tough to get road OOC games with Stanford since most of the time they are on the road 1 time OOC per year and have games already lined up. With the timing of the games being 2025, 2026, 2028, 2029, and 2031--it makes me believe that the Stanford/Notre Dame series may be coming to an end (their last scheduled matchup is 2024 and they already have H/H series scheduled with Boston College and what looks like a 2 for 1 with Vanderbilt beyond 2024).
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ABYUFAN wrote:


https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/29/stanford-football-byu-future-four-game-series/


So, with today’s announcement, below is a look at what is now an eight-game series between Stanford football and BYU:

•Nov. 28, 2020, at Stanford

•Nov. 26, 2022, at Stanford

•Sept. 13, 2025, at BYU

•Nov. 28, 2026, at Stanford*

•Nov. 25, 2028, at Stanford*

•Sept. 1, 2029, at BYU

•Aug. 30, 2031, at BYU*

•Sept. 1, 2035, at BYU*



(*Games added through today’s extension)


So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...

Have we seen anyone cancel their return trip to Provo yet? I cannot think of any. I don't think that the Stanford Athletic Dept has sooooo much cash laying around that they'll buy out three games.


Notre Dame still owes BYU several home games that while not cancelled are permanently postponed.
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Fido
ABYUFAN wrote:


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So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...

Have we seen anyone cancel their return trip to Provo yet? I cannot think of any. I don't think that the Stanford Athletic Dept has sooooo much cash laying around that they'll buy out three games.


The paranoia is real among many. Comical if you ask me.
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Fido
hawkwing wrote:

Notre Dame still owes BYU several home games that while not cancelled are permanently postponed.


Not true. Only 1 game @ Provo is owed and was not expected to be scheduled (if at all) before 2020.



https://fbschedules.com/future-byu-notre-dame-football-series-trimmed-one-game/



At his semi-annual roundtable discussion with reporters, Tom Holmoe stated that the second two-for-one series is “off the table” and that he will be “patient” for the Irish to return the game that is owed.

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“I would say that the second two-for-one series is off the table. We do definitely need to clear up the first contract. Notre Dame had a schedule agreement with the ACC and it was a great opportunity for them. To think that they joined a conference out of football was a big thing. And so for them to do that changed things and that can happen for us. So I would really be hypocritical to think that I’d hold them to the fire for doing something that’s really good for them. But we’ve played them twice out there, and they need to return this game. But the second series of three games, I understand that.”
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CougarCrazy
Fido wrote:


byufan4ever wrote:

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So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...

Have we seen anyone cancel their return trip to Provo yet? I cannot think of any. I don't think that the Stanford Athletic Dept has sooooo much cash laying around that they'll buy out three games.


The paranoia is real among many. Comical if you ask me.




Really? I’ll tell you what’s funny... not being skeptical of this deal. Really.
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ABYUFAN
CougarCrazy wrote:


ABYUFAN wrote:


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So will Stanford make it to BYU more than once? This very well could end up being a 4 for 1...

Have we seen anyone cancel their return trip to Provo yet? I cannot think of any. I don't think that the Stanford Athletic Dept has sooooo much cash laying around that they'll buy out three games.


The paranoia is real among many. Comical if you ask me.




Really? I’ll tell you what’s funny... not being skeptical of this deal. Really.


Didn't we see speculation that Michigan State and Missouri each would cancel their return trips? And here we are with them both coming to Provo this year. The level of paranoia about canceling return trips is actually very funny (but not as funny as the one about the three-legged dog walking into the bar and saying "I'm looking for the feller that shot my pa")
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CougarCrazy
The gap in time before the last 2 games and weird front loading on this deal begs for questions.
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byufan4ever
If we did this type of deal with, say, Utah, I would think 90% of the fans would be up in arms. I just want BYU to be seen as an equal in negotiations and to not be pushed around and to cave to other teams demands. Now, if the deal was, if you give us some Nov games we'll give you the home games up front, then that could be a sound negotiation. But if these games come with a very low buyout or some weak clause for Stanford to get out of the back games then I would be pisssed.



While it's fun playing all of these different teams, I really want to be in a conference again. The right conference. Not the MWC.



Oh and hey, we got a little bit if a discussion going. Been pretty dead here.
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Fido
When looking at the Stanford schedule, it appears that BYU is taking the opportunity to fill the Thanksgiving weekend Stanford/USC game that they need to fill late in the conference schedule season when many non-independent teams aren't available.



Thanksgiving Weekend Football Game

2020 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2021 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2022 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2023 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2024 - USC vs Notre Dame **Stanford @ Notre Dame earlier in October

2025 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2026 - Stanford vs BYU*, USC vs Notre Dame

2027 - **BYU already has 3 games in September

2028 - Stanford vs BYU*

2029 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2031 - *Stanford @ BYU in August

2035 - *Stanford @ BYU in September



* Newly added to the series

** Description of other notes



The PAC12/ND Thanksgiving game is not there in 2025 or 2027 but BYU fills in the 2026 slot with the new agreement and fills the 2028 spot for Stanford, though Notre Dame doesn't have anything in that spot on their schedule yet. Needing return games, the 2031 and 2035 games are probably fitting Stanford needs since they can only schedule 3 OOC games per season. If I'm BYU, I'm taking any of those Thanksgiving weekend games with either USC or Stanford as they are well publicized against a good opponent at a spot that is tough to fill otherwise.
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Fido
Here are the 82 future games scheduled with BYU as of today:



Boise State 14



Stanford 8



Utah 7



Arizona 3

Utah State 3

Virginia 3



Arizona State 2

Arkansas 2

Baylor 2

East Carolina 2

Georgia Southern 2

Hawaii 2

Houston 2

Minnesota 2

NC State 2

Rice 2

UCF 2

UNLV 2

USC 2

Virginia Tech 2

Wyoming 2



Dixie State (FCS) 1

Idaho State (FCS) 1

Liberty 1

Michigan State 1

Missouri 1

North Alabama (FCS) 1

Northern Illinois 1

Notre Dame 1

Oregon 1

San Diego State 1

Southern Utah (FCS) 1

Tennessee 1

USF 1

Washington State 1
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CougarCrazy
Fido wrote:

When looking at the Stanford schedule, it appears that BYU is taking the opportunity to fill the Thanksgiving weekend Stanford/USC game that they need to fill late in the conference schedule season when many non-independent teams aren't available.



Thanksgiving Weekend Football Game

2020 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2021 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2022 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2023 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2024 - USC vs Notre Dame **Stanford @ Notre Dame earlier in October

2025 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2026 - Stanford vs BYU*, USC vs Notre Dame

2027 - **BYU already has 3 games in September

2028 - Stanford vs BYU*

2029 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2031 - *Stanford @ BYU in August

2035 - *Stanford @ BYU in September



* Newly added to the series

** Description of other notes



The PAC12/ND Thanksgiving game is not there in 2025 or 2027 but BYU fills in the 2026 slot with the new agreement and fills the 2028 spot for Stanford, though Notre Dame doesn't have anything in that spot on their schedule yet. Needing return games, the 2031 and 2035 games are probably fitting Stanford needs since they can only schedule 3 OOC games per season. If I'm BYU, I'm taking any of those Thanksgiving weekend games with either USC or Stanford as they are well publicized against a good opponent at a spot that is tough to fill otherwise.


That’s a good breakdown. I don’t hate the deal, but I’m skeptical of it. Obviously BYU can’t do too many deals like this. The November games are what made it appealing I’m sure.



I’m sure BYU tried to get some home games in between, but if that was all Stanford was offering I’d take it too, but I’d want more than a 1 million dollar buyout for more than 1 game (meaning, if they want to buyout 1 I’d live with 1 million). If Stanford wants to buy out 2 games hopefully the contract gets very nasty.
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ABYUFAN
CougarCrazy wrote:


When looking at the Stanford schedule, it appears that BYU is taking the opportunity to fill the Thanksgiving weekend Stanford/USC game that they need to fill late in the conference schedule season when many non-independent teams aren't available.



Thanksgiving Weekend Football Game

2020 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2021 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2022 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2023 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2024 - USC vs Notre Dame **Stanford @ Notre Dame earlier in October

2025 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2026 - Stanford vs BYU*, USC vs Notre Dame

2027 - **BYU already has 3 games in September

2028 - Stanford vs BYU*

2029 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2031 - *Stanford @ BYU in August

2035 - *Stanford @ BYU in September



* Newly added to the series

** Description of other notes



The PAC12/ND Thanksgiving game is not there in 2025 or 2027 but BYU fills in the 2026 slot with the new agreement and fills the 2028 spot for Stanford, though Notre Dame doesn't have anything in that spot on their schedule yet. Needing return games, the 2031 and 2035 games are probably fitting Stanford needs since they can only schedule 3 OOC games per season. If I'm BYU, I'm taking any of those Thanksgiving weekend games with either USC or Stanford as they are well publicized against a good opponent at a spot that is tough to fill otherwise.


That’s a good breakdown. I don’t hate the deal, but I’m skeptical of it. Obviously BYU can’t do too many deals like this. The November games are what made it appealing I’m sure.



I’m sure BYU tried to get some home games in between, but if that was all Stanford was offering I’d take it too, but I’d want more than a 1 million dollar buyout for more than 1 game (meaning, if they want to buyout 1 I’d live with 1 million). If Stanford wants to buy out 2 games hopefully the contract gets very nasty.

Remember Stanford plays in the PAC 12, their network has lousy distribution. Stanford is NOT going to cancel an ESPN game.
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CougarCrazy
ABYUFAN wrote:


Fido wrote:

When looking at the Stanford schedule, it appears that BYU is taking the opportunity to fill the Thanksgiving weekend Stanford/USC game that they need to fill late in the conference schedule season when many non-independent teams aren't available.



Thanksgiving Weekend Football Game

2020 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2021 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2022 - Stanford vs BYU, USC vs Notre Dame

2023 - Stanford vs Notre Dame, USC vs BYU

2024 - USC vs Notre Dame **Stanford @ Notre Dame earlier in October

2025 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2026 - Stanford vs BYU*, USC vs Notre Dame

2027 - **BYU already has 3 games in September

2028 - Stanford vs BYU*

2029 - **Stanford @ BYU in September

2031 - *Stanford @ BYU in August

2035 - *Stanford @ BYU in September



* Newly added to the series

** Description of other notes



The PAC12/ND Thanksgiving game is not there in 2025 or 2027 but BYU fills in the 2026 slot with the new agreement and fills the 2028 spot for Stanford, though Notre Dame doesn't have anything in that spot on their schedule yet. Needing return games, the 2031 and 2035 games are probably fitting Stanford needs since they can only schedule 3 OOC games per season. If I'm BYU, I'm taking any of those Thanksgiving weekend games with either USC or Stanford as they are well publicized against a good opponent at a spot that is tough to fill otherwise.


That’s a good breakdown. I don’t hate the deal, but I’m skeptical of it. Obviously BYU can’t do too many deals like this. The November games are what made it appealing I’m sure.



I’m sure BYU tried to get some home games in between, but if that was all Stanford was offering I’d take it too, but I’d want more than a 1 million dollar buyout for more than 1 game (meaning, if they want to buyout 1 I’d live with 1 million). If Stanford wants to buy out 2 games hopefully the contract gets very nasty.

Remember Stanford plays in the PAC 12, their network has lousy distribution. Stanford is NOT going to cancel an ESPN game.


15 years though. Hyper inflation might make the buyout less than a loaf of bread and ESPN might be out of business. Who knows what the world will look like then, we only know we can’t guess. In 2005 we had no idea what CFB would be like in 2020.



There is risk in this deal and BYU is the one carrying all of it. I hope they protected themselves. The ND deal is proof of that.



I’m not hating the deal, just not turning cartwheels and the devil is in the details. BYU hasn’t done the best job managing those kinds of details in the past lol.
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Fido
CougarCrazy wrote:

15 years though. Hyper inflation might make the buyout less than a loaf of bread and ESPN might be out of business. Who knows what the world will look like then, we only know we can’t guess. In 2005 we had no idea what CFB would be like in 2020.



There is risk in this deal and BYU is the one carrying all of it. I hope they protected themselves. The ND deal is proof of that.



I’m not hating the deal, just not turning cartwheels and the devil is in the details. BYU hasn’t done the best job managing those kinds of details in the past lol.


Nothing risked, nothing gained. I think the risk of having a game bought out 15 years down the road is worth playing Thanksgiving weekend games that matter--at least to an indy BYU and is hopefully a featured game on the PAC12 media schedule. The wait to get Stanford @ home on ESPN will be worth the coverage too compared to some of the November games we've had to settle for.
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