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My advice to recruits

by ProV1 · 1/30/2010

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ProV1
1. Come to BYU. It's a great school, a great environment, a great football program with great coaches that will prepare you for game day and life.

2. Realize that you are at the bottom of the totem pole again. There are upperclassmen who have "grinded" it out for years and have earned the spots that you seek. Come humble and ready to work. If you are better than they, awesome, but don't expect or demand anything. And if you do get beat out, don't b and m and sulk and transfer. Work hard and your shot will come.

3. Don't read fan message boards. If you do, realize that the posters represent 1% of the fan base and 99% of them have never played a down of football (not counting flag football, mutual night, and turkey bowls.) Focus only on the positive feedback from fans.

4. Enjoy the recruiting process. You are a teenager and adults are treating you like royalty. Enjoy the meals and travel and sunshine blowing. Get to know programs and coaches and other recruits. Study it out which school fits best with everything you have to offer and what it can offer you. But once you commit to a school keep your word. Make your decision and move forward, don't look over the fence at others. It's admittedly difficult in a culture where coaches with 5 year contracts bolt as soon as a better deal comes along. Don't follow their example.

5. Chances are pretty slim that you'll go pro. Finish your education, find a babe (there a plenty in Provo), and prepare for real life.

6. Realize up front that your current teammates will be your friends for life. Build friendship and trust and support each other.

7. If your coach tells you to cut your hair, cut it. If he tells you not to visit another school, don't. If he wants you to play on special teams, do it. Do what you're told and your life will be easier. And it will prepare you nicely for marriage.



Have I missed anything?
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EM_Puma
Yea, tell them to tell their parents that they absolutely cannot be on the BYU sports sites (Cougar Corner, TBS, CB, etc.). I have seen more damage through this medium than benefit. While I have appreciated some insight at times to issues from parents directly, it just seems like there are those that have no common courtesy and it's difficult sometimes to try to not flame some player/coach or whomever when as a fan you're frustrated. Granted you should go off and vent somewhere else, but many times fans vent on these sites and what they say often offends a close relative to a player. No matter how thick skinned they are, it's hard not to have your son/daughter's back.



I just find it personally difficult to not be disappointed by what some people post sometimes about players when they attack them personally and to know their parent will see that. It's part of the reality of what these sites are all about, but I just wish some folks out there would be at times more considerate. When you're talking directly to others about players, yes, sometimes we get frustrated and say things (Like me telling Schmoe to bite me this week, which is very out of character for me, but I had felt he twisted my meaning very negatively and I was mad at that moment), but like friends we often go on and should and and just get by it.



So for me, add to the list that recruits insist their parents stay far away from these sites.
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BigCougsFan
Amen!
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BoiseBYU
Say what you mean and mean what you say



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bigbluepuma
EM_Puma wrote:
Yea, tell them to tell their parents that they absolutely cannot be on the BYU sports sites (Cougar Corner, TBS, CB, etc.). I haven't seen more damage through this medium than benefit. While I have appreciated some insight at times to issues from parents directly, it just seems like there are those that have no common courtesy and it's difficult sometimes to try to not flame some player/coach or whomever when as a fan you're frustrated. Granted you should go off and vent somewhere else, but many times fans vent on these sites and what they say often offends a close relative of a player. No matter how thick skinned they are, it's hard not to have you son/daughter's back.



I just find it personally difficult to not be disappointed by what some people post sometimes about players when they attack them personally and to know their parent will see that. It's part of the reality of what these sites are all about, but I just wish some folks out there would be at times more considerate. When you're talking directly to others about players, yes, sometimes we get frustrated and say things (Like me telling Schmoe to bite me this week, which is very out of character for me, but I had felt he twisted my meaning very negatively and I was mad at that moment), but like friends we often go on and should and and just get by it.



So for me, add to the list that recruits insist their parents stay far away from these sites.


I couldn't agree with you more. I felt really bad when Linette Chambers started a thread, only to have her son thoughroghly trashed in the thread, not for anything that he said or did ( that may be fair game), but for some fools' perceptions of him as a player. She seemed really cool about it though. She came back on a couple of times to make comments, but never got into what I'm sure must have really hurt her. I guess she has gotten very used to it by now. I don't think there is a player good enough that there aren't a bunch of fools on these sites dumb enough to think they are killing BYUs hopes for the future. Linette seems to be a very cool person. I would really like to meet her.
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scott715
and ignore the trolls!
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Linette Chambers
bigbluepuma wrote:
Yea, tell them to tell their parents that they absolutely cannot be on the BYU sports sites (Cougar Corner, TBS, CB, etc.). I haven't seen more damage through this medium than benefit. While I have appreciated some insight at times to issues from parents directly, it just seems like there are those that have no common courtesy and it's difficult sometimes to try to not flame some player/coach or whomever when as a fan you're frustrated. Granted you should go off and vent somewhere else, but many times fans vent on these sites and what they say often offends a close relative of a player. No matter how thick skinned they are, it's hard not to have you son/daughter's back.



I just find it personally difficult to not be disappointed by what some people post sometimes about players when they attack them personally and to know their parent will see that. It's part of the reality of what these sites are all about, but I just wish some folks out there would be at times more considerate. When you're talking directly to others about players, yes, sometimes we get frustrated and say things (Like me telling Schmoe to bite me this week, which is very out of character for me, but I had felt he twisted my meaning very negatively and I was mad at that moment), but like friends we often go on and should and and just get by it.



So for me, add to the list that recruits insist their parents stay far away from these sites.


I couldn't agree with you more. I felt really bad when Linette Chambers started a thread, only to have her son thoughroghly trashed in the thread, not for anything that he said or did ( that may be fair game), but for some fools' perceptions of him as a player. She seemed really cool about it though. She came back on a couple of times to make comments, but never got into what I'm sure must have really hurt her. I guess she has gotten very used to it by now. I don't think there is a player good enough that there aren't a bunch of fools on these sites dumb enough to think they are killing BYUs hopes for the future. Linette seems to be a very cool person. I would really like to meet her.


This is how I view things everyone is entitled to their opinions regardless if its nice or not. But like I always say its best not to say anything if its not nice but hey to each his own. These last two years have not been a stroll in the park but we are having a blast especially with what we have in our picnic basket, lol! Lots of love and blessings!!! What else can you ask for!

Thanks,

Linette Chambers
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Mars
Linette Chambers wrote:
This is how I view things everyone is entitled to their opinions regardless if its nice or not. But like I always say its best not to say anything if its not nice but hey to each his own. These last two years have not been a stroll in the park but we are having a blast especially with what we have in our picnic basket, lol! Lots of love and blessings!!! What else can you ask for!

Thanks,

Linette Chambers

Classy as always! Thanks for being here.

And thanks to your son for choosing BYU and working so hard while he's been here.
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montanafan
Thanks from me too Linette, to you and all your family,I love to watch your son play.I don't post very much but I read everything.I would like to meet you some day also .Best wishes to you and your family and GO COUGARS.
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bigbluepuma
Linette Chambers wrote:
This is how I view things everyone is entitled to their opinions regardless if its nice or not. But like I always say its best not to say anything if its not nice but hey to each his own. These last two years have not been a stroll in the park but we are having a blast especially with what we have in our picnic basket, lol! Lots of love and blessings!!! What else can you ask for!

Thanks,

Linette Chambers


Good to hear from you. Love to watch your son play. Was excited when he committed. Thought he came in just a little arrogant. Didn't set well with a few fans. Seems to have gotten over that. Hope he gets that return for a touchdown this year. Came close last year. I think we are blessed to have Oneal on our team, and to have your positive and uplifting input on our message boards.

Thanks from the Bigblue
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BigCougsFan
Mars wrote:
This is how I view things everyone is entitled to their opinions regardless if its nice or not. But like I always say its best not to say anything if its not nice but hey to each his own. These last two years have not been a stroll in the park but we are having a blast especially with what we have in our picnic basket, lol! Lots of love and blessings!!! What else can you ask for!

Thanks,

Linette Chambers

Classy as always! Thanks for being here.

And thanks to your son for choosing BYU and working so hard while he's been here.


No kidding... O'Neill was night and day better this year from the previous. I can't wait to see him play this year along with who we have coming in.



O'Neill was amazing on kick returns against Utah. He is the reason why BYU had good field advantage against them AND so close to running one the distance if it wasn't for one pesky Yewt!
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northerncougar
Mars wrote:
This is how I view things everyone is entitled to their opinions regardless if its nice or not. But like I always say its best not to say anything if its not nice but hey to each his own. These last two years have not been a stroll in the park but we are having a blast especially with what we have in our picnic basket, lol! Lots of love and blessings!!! What else can you ask for!

Thanks,

Linette Chambers

Classy as always! Thanks for being here.

And thanks to your son for choosing BYU and working so hard while he's been here.


Ditto.



What I think of every time I hear his name is that without his play against the pukes we would have lost that game. Just for that game alone he is one of my favorite players!! 8)
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