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How many wins does Sitake need for you to feel good about him coming back?

by KingCoug · 10/7/2018

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KingCoug
Ripped this poll off from CB.
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frdbtr
BYU would need to win out so whatever that would be. I don't see that as a realistic posibility at all though so he needs to be gone. The team seems to have quit again this year and that is coaching, 100%. They simply quit after beating Wisconsin, I don't know why. They couldn't have decided that since they won against #6 on the road that they had arrived, I just don't see how that could be possible but they have played like crap since that win.
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a1247
People wanted Bronco gone, he left and everyone thought we were going to get the Mormon version of Nick Saban. Here it is not even 3 years later and again people think that there's a long list of coaches with a temple recommends begging to come coach at BYU.



Kalani isn't getting fired. The people who run the program know that replacing him after 2 losing seasons would spell doom. Can you imagine the pitch. Look you are one of maybe 5 possible canadites with a temple recommend and we want you to come coach at BYU. Your gonna make less then market value, you can only recruited about 25% of all potential recruits because of our stupid honor code. Which by the way you will have to live bye so go shave that beard off. Yes I know you didn't have to shave to go to the temple last week but this is BYU not your average everyday temple. And if you have 2 losing seasons your gonna get fired, because just like we believe our backup QB is better then our starter, we all believe theres a mythical coach out there who is better then you.
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frdbtr
I didn't want Bronco gone and I think it was a huge mistake to let the boosters run him off. I want Kalani gone because he is a disaster and we need to try someone else. Too bad we can't get Bronco back.
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jadesroom
I didn't want Bronco gone but also didn't mind that he left. The big mistake was not getting a coach with a proven track record as a head coach--KN--or a top coordinator at a winning program--Lance Anderson. Sitake's primary qualification was being KW's understudy at Utah. His one year at Oregon State was a disaster.
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a1247
frdbtr wrote:

I didn't want Bronco gone and I think it was a huge mistake to let the boosters run him off. I want Kalani gone because he is a disaster and we need to try someone else. Too bad we can't get Bronco back.

I never wanted Bronco gone for this exact reason. It's foolish to think there is a line of coaches out there who want to coach at BYU and more importantly have a temple recommend. Until BYU stops forcing there head coaches to have a temple recommend BYU is going to struggle.

Since LW retired BYU has had 3 coaches. Crowton was horrible, Bronco was successful on the field but not with the donor's and fans. Kalani is looking like a dud. So who exactly is it that everyone thinks is going to come replace KS and be successful?

Personally I think we see a change on the defensive side of the ball. Much like we did with the offense last year. Unfortunately we might have to wait until the end of the year again.
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a1247
jadesroom wrote:

I didn't want Bronco gone but also didn't mind that he left. The big mistake was not getting a coach with a proven track record as a head coach--KN--or a top coordinator at a winning program--Lance Anderson. Sitake's primary qualification was being KW's understudy at Utah. His one year at Oregon State was a disaster.


What makes anyone think Lance Anderson wants to come to BYU. Outside of his religion he has no connection to BYU. And what is he going to do that KS hasn't been able to do? Also does he have the all important temple recommend?

KN came and left his interview the minute he was told his offense couldn't come with him. And EVERYONE on this board said absolutely no to that offense and was glad he wasnt bringing it here.

So who's this mythical coach that's "got a proven track record as a head coach or is a top coordinator at a winning program" that also has that all important temple recommend? Please someone share a name so I can get excited for change too.
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frdbtr
a1247 wrote:


I didn't want Bronco gone but also didn't mind that he left. The big mistake was not getting a coach with a proven track record as a head coach--KN--or a top coordinator at a winning program--Lance Anderson. Sitake's primary qualification was being KW's understudy at Utah. His one year at Oregon State was a disaster.


What makes anyone think Lance Anderson wants to come to BYU. Outside of his religion he has no connection to BYU. And what is he going to do that KS hasn't been able to do? Also does he have the all important temple recommend?

KN came and left his interview the minute he was told his offense couldn't come with him. And EVERYONE on this board said absolutely no to that offense and was glad he wasnt bringing it here.

So who's this mythical coach that's "got a proven track record as a head coach or is a top coordinator at a winning program" that also has that all important temple recommend? Please someone share a name so I can get excited for change too.


He has said in the media that he was very interested in the job when it was open last time but but "BYU seemed to be looking for bigger fish" I don't know if he would still be interested now but he was back then.
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Mars
Lance Anderson and Darrell Bevell would be a good start.
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Cougs_Rule
Six. And a bowl game. He won’t even get that, though. This team is tired from a hard schedule, arrogant from a catch lightning in a bottle, top ten win, out-schemed by most modern/spread/speed schemes, out-recruited by both in-state schools, and out-coached by a coach who uses love as a motivator and not discipline.

This embarrassing loss looked like last year all over.

Maybe with four wins and a fifth, but implausible, get out of jail win vs Utah, could save him.

BYU no longer has the recruits, the coaching or the stamina to compete with these “we’ll play anyone, anywhere” schedules. It is arrogant and fool hearty by TH, coaches, and arrogant fans and donors who think BYU can compete playing 4-5 P5 schools every year. BYU has two really really poor showings on TV the last two weeks and has to be on shaky ground with ESPN who is making all sorts of financial cutbacks. BYU is in trouble.



PS. Bronco is a bad bad fit with UVA. Cant recruit. Maybe with his guaranteed money he can comeback for a few years and smack this team back into shape. Otherwise I see a huge humble pie move by TH to go back to the s___hole Conference we came from if ESPN drops us. Brace yourselves, you who are prone to defect.
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KingCoug
Cougs_Rule wrote:
BYU no longer has the recruits, the coaching or the stamina to compete with these “we’ll play anyone, anywhere” schedules. It is arrogant and fool hearty by TH, coaches, and arrogant fans and donors who think BYU can compete playing 4-5 P5 schools every year. BYU has two really really poor showings on TV the last two weeks and has to be on shaky ground with ESPN who is making all sorts of financial cutbacks. BYU is in trouble.


Yup. This is what the fans that want us to play a lot of P5 teams every year don't understand.
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SpiffCoug
Kalani would have to win out, at this point, for me to want him to return.
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Gunk
SpiffCoug wrote:

Kalani would have to win out, at this point, for me to want him to return.


Same. Winning out. Anything less doesn't show me improvement. He needs to string together a winning streak. Win out and I will gladly eat crow.
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BroncoBot
Gunk wrote:


Kalani would have to win out, at this point, for me to want him to return.


Same. Winning out. Anything less doesn't show me improvement. He needs to string together a winning streak. Win out and I will gladly eat crow.

At this point I think BYU has a much better shot at LOSING out than winning out.
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frdbtr
BroncoBot wrote:


SpiffCoug wrote:

Kalani would have to win out, at this point, for me to want him to return.


Same. Winning out. Anything less doesn't show me improvement. He needs to string together a winning streak. Win out and I will gladly eat crow.

At this point I think BYU has a much better shot at LOSING out than winning out.


And that is why I am done with this coaching staff. I want them all gone, they should have all been gone after last year but we scapegoated Detmer and gave the disaster another year and the results are starting to shape up similar to what I saw last year. I see a heartless team that folds at the first sign of adversity and then quits for the rest of the game. This has nothing to do with talent, it is the way they are being coached.
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cougarapologist
Interesting that the Wisconsin win might be the one to get Sitake fired.



Before the season, I predicted a 7-5 record. But then they went and won 2 games I did not think they would win: Arizona and Wisconsin. But then lost two I thought they would win: Cal and Utah State.



So if I would have kept him at 7 wins at the start, what changed?



Beating Wisconsin and Arizona showed that they could compete, but then they lost the team. Back to BYU standard failures: poor tackling, dropped passes, uninspired play calling. Sure would have liked to see a coaching staff who could build on successes, not rest on them.



Love the Lance Anderson/Darryl Bevell combo idea! Probably the best we could hope for.
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frdbtr
if we got Lance Anderson and Darrel Bevel it would be one of the biggest coaching Coup's in college football history. Ain't gonna happen. We might be able to get Lance Anderson because he showed interest during the last hiring time. Bevel never has and his head coach said we couldn't interview him. I don't se him as a reasonable possibility, similar to us not getting Andy Reid.
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Mars
Bevell is currently unemployed. Lost his job early 2018.
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frdbtr
Mars wrote:

Bevell is currently unemployed. Lost his job early 2018.


Wow I didn't know that. I guess we might have a shot at him afterall. Shows you how much attention I pay to the NFL since when I do watch, the Seahawks are about the only team I care about.
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mtnradio
Not only that, but Bevell lives in Utah valley, his daughter played BYU softball ... there is a legit shot for him right now ...
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