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Calling my shot:

by SpiffCoug · 9/9/2018

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SpiffCoug
BYU will score 0 offensive points against Wisconsin.
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BoiseBYU
Bold :)
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nuk13
SpiffCoug wrote:

BYU will score 0 offensive points against Wisconsin.

Why do we schedule teams like this?
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Gunk
Because we have an inferiority complex. We think we are better than we are. We want to be on par with Alabama but aren't and never will be.
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Mars
4-8 season.
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KingCoug
I've been saying for a long time now that we've overscheduled continually since going independent. Playing P5 opponents, and the cooresponding attention, is great...if you win. But losing, and losing more often than not, kills that. Can we consider getting humiliated by Wisconsin this Saturday on ABC good publicity?



Since 2011, BYU has played an average of five P5 teams plus Boise State. We all would like to believe BYU can handle that but the proof is in the pudding. We don't have the coaching or player talent level.



We don't need to go back to the Mountain West but Holmoe needs to pull his head out of the clouds and start scheduling more appropriately.



No more than three P5/P5 level opponents. For example, Utah, Notre Dame, and Boise State.



The rest of the schedule should be regional/traditional games like Utah State and Hawaii, the three academies, as well as other independent schools. Something similar to the Boise State model but without being locked into the Mountain West.



Something like this (no particular order) -



1. Weber St/SUU (FCS)

2. Utah (PAC 12)

3. Utah St (MWC)

4. Hawaii (MWC)

5. Boise St (MWC)

6. Air Force (MWC)

7. Navy (AAC)

8. Army (IND)

9. UMass (IND)

10. Notre Dame (IND)

11. New Mexico St (IND)

12. Liberty (IND)
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jadesroom
I believe we are a middle-of-the-pack P5 team. So are Arizona and California. Middle to below par P5 teams are who we should be scheduling. We need to be receiving P5 money if we're going to schedule the top teams.



That said, what's the betting line on which quarter Wilson makes his appearance. I say second drive of the third quarter.
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Mars
I'd start Wilson against McNeese.
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jadesroom
I'll go out on a day-after-a-loss limb and say that the season is in the tank and Jaren Hall will be our starting QB by the end of the year. (I reserve the right to change my mind after BYU beats Wisconsin.)
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frdbtr
Well, it would take a Herculean effort in coaching to get them to the point where they will score points in this game so I think your prediction is pretty safe.
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frdbtr
Mars wrote:

I'd start Wilson against McNeese.




Mangum isn't the problem here. Coaching is. For crying out loud, in 15 Mangum looked like the next BYU great and now it is his fault? So since our Sr looks bad under bad coaching, we need to throw our Freshman to the wolves. Plus, who is he going to throw to? Even Collie (the WR savior from Hawaii) has balls bounce off his hands. There simply is too much blame to go around to put it on the QB.
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Mars
Mangum isn't THE problem, but he is A problem. No reason not to bench a guy that can't get it done to try the next man up.
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jadesroom
frdbtr wrote:


I'd start Wilson against McNeese.




Mangum isn't the problem here. Coaching is. For crying out loud, in 15 Mangum looked like the next BYU great and now it is his fault?


Injuries take their toll. Bosco wasn't the same his senior year, Hill wasn't as fast his senior year, and Mangum isn't the same this year. It's not his fault, but the freshman Mangum was physically--and consequently, mentally--better than the senior Mangum.
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KYCoug
I get no excitement from playing glorified D2 teams. I don't care to be the Utah state champ either. If you're not going to put your big boy pants on and play a Wisconsin, Fl State, or Oklahoma once in awhile you've got no business playing at all. Take your lumps and sometimes you'll get it all right and beat an Oklahoma or Texas. We should be able to beat most teams out there but if you schedule down no one will want your weak sauce.



Just my humble opinion.



Go Cougs! Beat Wisconsin!!!



L Hatton

KYCOUG
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byufan4ever
Mars wrote:

Mangum isn't THE problem, but he is A problem. No reason not to bench a guy that can't get it done to try the next man up.


Amen!
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scott715
We played two middle of the PAC teams and went 1-1. That is better then playing a SJSU and killing them. It also helps with our SOS and got two good TV games. We could cut back on top 10 teams to only 1 a season.
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Guest
scott715 wrote:

We played two middle of the PAC teams and went 1-1. That is better then playing a SJSU and killing them. It also helps with our SOS and got two good TV games. We could cut back on top 10 teams to only 1 a season.


We don't know yet if they are middle of the pack PAC teams yet.
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frdbtr
Mars wrote:

Mangum isn't THE problem, but he is A problem. No reason not to bench a guy that can't get it done to try the next man up.


You mean bench the guy who is struggling because of the offensive line and horrible receiver play in order to put a freshman in there and let him get pummeled becuase of poor offensive line and receiver play. Ok, I get it.
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Mars
frdbtr wrote:


Mangum isn't THE problem, but he is A problem. No reason not to bench a guy that can't get it done to try the next man up.


You mean bench the guy who is struggling because of the offensive line and horrible receiver play in order to put a freshman in there and let him get pummeled becuase of poor offensive line and receiver play. Ok, I get it.

Have you watched Tanner play this year? His problems go far beyond that.
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vancouvercougar
SpiffCoug wrote:

BYU will score 0 offensive points against Wisconsin.


IF we get a defensive score and the offense crosses the 50 yard line my expectations will be met. I'm hoping for more, but no faith.
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