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BYU ranked 91st best football team, fair?

by hawkwing · 5/10/2018

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snoscythe
Considering we lost at home to UMass, it's hard to argue we deserve better.
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Potentially upgraded the offensive coaching staff.



Downgraded the defensive staff though.
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frdbtr
snoscythe wrote:

Considering we lost at home to UMass, it's hard to argue we deserve better.


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frdbtr
hawkwing wrote:

Potentially upgraded the offensive coaching staff.



Downgraded the defensive staff though.


Until we prove otherwise, we are what we were last year IMO.
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SpiffCoug
So based on those rankings, we're winning 3 games this fall. Ouch. I could see it. But wow.
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CrimsonCoug
I'd put us in the low 70s, with a really wide confidence interval--of like 30 spots.



I have a lot of respect for Grimes, and the rumbling coming across the news wires are that the players are hungry and working hard. But I don't think anyone really knows what we have in Sitake yet. (Except that his floor is lower than Mendenhall's). So I wouldn't be surprised by anything between 100 and 50. Anything in the 40s and I'd be mildly impressed.
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snoscythe
CrimsonCoug wrote:
Anything in the 40s and I'd be mildly impressed.


Used to be, if a coach turned in a team that ranked in the low-40s, former players would write open letters calling for the coach to be replaced.



Nowadays they be like "ranked in the bottom third?"



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BOID
BYU had just one bad year, and admittedly, it was very bad. But, other nationally prominent teams are not automatically expected to remain as bad as their worst season ever. Even if last year’s coaching staff were still in place, I would not expect two consecutive seasons like last year’s.



I think the only way forward, is up. The talent is there. The coaching seems at least adequate. The offense, especially, should be fierce. The level of success should hinge on how much the players can believe in success.
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Jarhead
91st is a very fair ranking. It it becomes reality we will have a new head coach next year.
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BOID wrote:

BYU had just one bad year, and admittedly, it was very bad. But, other nationally prominent teams are not automatically expected to remain as bad as their worst season ever. Even if last year’s coaching staff were still in place, I would not expect two consecutive seasons like last year’s.



I think the only way forward, is up. The talent is there. The coaching seems at least adequate. The offense, especially, should be fierce. The level of success should hinge on how much the players can believe in success.

Those programs kick ass in recruiting. BYU was already doing more with less.
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CrimsonCoug
snoscythe wrote:

Anything in the 40s and I'd be mildly impressed.


Used to be, if a coach turned in a team that ranked in the low-40s, former players would write open letters calling for the coach to be replaced.



Nowadays they be like "ranked in the bottom third?"




Exactly. That's how far my expectations have fallen for this coaching staff. Without a hard-nosed, well respected group of seniors in key positions to lead, the coaches haven't shown anything AT ALL that would give confidence in having anything better than a middle of the pack mid-60's season. Grimes and Grimes alone is the exception, based on his previous tenure and his career stops. But he's also in his first year as an OC. There will still be growing pains. Always are.
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