Sitake has no clue what he is doing.

https://overcast.fm/+CEpK-Gb3I/18:45

Preston Hadley admits he was hired by Sitake and Tuiaki WITHOUT being interviewed!



Are you kidding me?! What kind of joke does Sitake think this job is?



I hope he's updating his resume because he won't be at BYU in 2019. Calling my shot right now. He's gone.

I just finished reading a book "Start With Why". Kalani needs to read that (as well as many other organizational management books).

This is what we get when the coaching search starts and ends with one guy. I hope he is able to get BYU where we all want them to be but I have no confidence that he can.

This is also should be meant as a slight towards Hadley. He may very well be fully qualified and will do a great job. But it just looks like Sitake has no process to guide him as he leads the football program.

SpiffCoug wrote:

https://overcast.fm/+CEpK-Gb3I/18:45

Preston Hadley admits he was hired by Sitake and Tuiaki WITHOUT being interviewed!

So, we lose Kaufusi ... 16 yrs at BYU, solid coach. And we pick up Hadley (without an interview) from Weber State (where he did a decent job). I'm not going to say that Hadley was a bad choice ... but was he the ONLY choice? :gross:



BYU is supposed to be an independent of national prominence (before last year), and we schedule a lot of great teams to prove it. With that as a starting position, are we to believe that the ONLY candidate was Hadley? That there wasn't another qualified coach in all of college football that would want to come? :bug:



This demonstrates that the Friends and Family Plan is still in charge.



Ouch

I'm a business/finance analyst so I often look at BYU sports from a business perspective. BYU Athletics is the company. AD is the CEO and the head coaches are VPs. If these guys were running a "real" business with shareholders to answer to do you think they'd still have a job?



Answer this honestly for the AD and HC for football and basketball plus any other BYU sport you are passionate about.



Has BYU Athletics' imaginary stock gone up or down over the past 1/3/5 years? What is the trend?

The trend was a slow decline in football the last 10 years with football falling off a cliff the last 8 months.

BYU's two main sports, football and men's basketball are on a major decline in the last five years. Holmoe should not have his job.



Sitaki and Rose (hate to say it) should be gone.

Gunk wrote:

BYU's two main sports, football and men's basketball are on a major decline in the last five years. Holmoe should not have his job.



Sitaki and Rose (hate to say it) should be gone.

Rose should have seen MIka and Emery leaving early for different reasons? I don't get that. BYU's a different team this year with both of those guys back

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

YNot wrote:

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

Rule #1 of any sports forum for fans: don't bring any sort of rational logic to the discussion ;) I could not agree any more with what you have posted here.

I like that someone says Holmoe should not have his job and then:



1) They support that argument by saying Sitake has sucked



BUT



2) Someone comes along to say "Hey, Kalani's not that bad" (someone who obviously didn't watch the Portland State, UMASS or any of the other non-P5 games where Kalani's team looked inept against cellar-dwellers), and blames the poor result on Tom Holmoe's scheduling.





The takeaway? Holmoe should be fired for scheduling ineptitude, not his hiring ineptitude (assuming you didn't watch Portland State, UMass, etc.).



Everyone agrees Holmoe should be fired, we are just arguing about exactly why.

YNot wrote:

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

I agree with what you are saying. My problem with Holmoe is he took a long shot at getting Kwhit and when that didn't work, the only guy he pursued was Sitake. Lance Anderson at Stanford was interested but he said "they had bigger fish they were looking at". Coach N at Navy wasn't seriously considered because they told him he couldn't bring his option. There were other guys that could have been considered but other than trying to get Kwhit, Sitake was the only guy and that is what irritates me. We should consider all interested candidates and pick the one that brings the best option to win. IMO we didn't do that, we were too obsessed with getting a former Lavell player.

frdbtr wrote:

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

I agree with what you are saying. My problem with Holmoe is he took a long shot at getting Kwhit and when that didn't work, the only guy he pursued was Sitake. Lance Anderson at Stanford was interested but he said "they had bigger fish they were looking at". Coach N at Navy wasn't seriously considered because they told him he couldn't bring his option. There were other guys that could have been considered but other than trying to get Kwhit, Sitake was the only guy and that is what irritates me. We should consider all interested candidates and pick the one that brings the best option to win. IMO we didn't do that, we were too obsessed with getting a former Lavell player.

I personally hope that Lance Anderson still wants the job. I suspect that it may be open again in as little as 9 months...

C'mon guys, can't we agree that no one is responsible for anything and that nothing is anyone's fault?

I blame you.

hawkwing wrote:
I blame you.

Blaming Mars might be the single, truthiest, comment on Cougar Corner in the history of the site.

frdbtr wrote:

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

I agree with what you are saying. My problem with Holmoe is he took a long shot at getting Kwhit and when that didn't work, the only guy he pursued was Sitake. Lance Anderson at Stanford was interested but he said "they had bigger fish they were looking at". Coach N at Navy wasn't seriously considered because they told him he couldn't bring his option. There were other guys that could have been considered but other than trying to get Kwhit, Sitake was the only guy and that is what irritates me. We should consider all interested candidates and pick the one that brings the best option to win. IMO we didn't do that, we were too obsessed with getting a former Lavell player.

I don't think any of us really know what Holmoe did or didn't do.



We know that Niumatalolo flew out to Utah and interviewed. Met with Elder Oaks. That's pretty serious consideration. Apparently, Holmoe tried to convince him to be the head coach, instead of an option coach.



We also know that Pete Carroll was contacted about Bevell. And, not sure we could have afforded him or convinced him to accept an offer - even if he was the right fit. Similar analysis for most other "candidates" that were coaching in the NFL.



What other guys am I missing? Cougar fans would have revolted if we promoted Robert Anae.



There is no indication that Lance Anderson is or was a better head coaching candidate than Sitake. I think Anderson is better with fundamentals, technique and as DC. But, I actually lean that Anderson's personality isn't the right fight for a head coach.



Kilani Sitake was a good, but not great, hire. He may yet prove to be a good coach.

YNot wrote:

YNot wrote:

BYU basketball is fine. We've been in games against the two top-15 teams in our conference. What coaching decisions would have made a difference at LMU? More Worthington and Bergesen?



Who else was Holmoe to hire for head football coach? If he hires Nuimatalolo, Cougar Nation revolts because we're running the option. Cougar Nation revolts if we hire Grimes - or anyone else - other than Ty freaking Detmer. He had to take that chance and let it play out.



With hindsight, it is clear that we cannot survive front loaded schedules. We're not just playing LSU or Wisconsin or Utah. We play all three in consecutive weekends. I'm afraid we will see a similar breakdown the next couple of years - Arizona, Wisconsin and Washington road games in September? Too much.



But had Holmoe NOT scheduled these games, we would complain about weak schedules.

I agree with what you are saying. My problem with Holmoe is he took a long shot at getting Kwhit and when that didn't work, the only guy he pursued was Sitake. Lance Anderson at Stanford was interested but he said "they had bigger fish they were looking at". Coach N at Navy wasn't seriously considered because they told him he couldn't bring his option. There were other guys that could have been considered but other than trying to get Kwhit, Sitake was the only guy and that is what irritates me. We should consider all interested candidates and pick the one that brings the best option to win. IMO we didn't do that, we were too obsessed with getting a former Lavell player.

I don't think any of us really know what Holmoe did or didn't do.



We know that Niumatalolo flew out to Utah and interviewed. Met with Elder Oaks. That's pretty serious consideration. Apparently, Holmoe tried to convince him to be the head coach, instead of an option coach.



We also know that Pete Carroll was contacted about Bevell. And, not sure we could have afforded him or convinced him to accept an offer - even if he was the right fit. Similar analysis for most other "candidates" that were coaching in the NFL.



What other guys am I missing? Cougar fans would have revolted if we promoted Robert Anae.



There is no indication that Lance Anderson is or was a better head coaching candidate than Sitake. I think Anderson is better with fundamentals, technique and as DC. But, I actually lean that Anderson's personality isn't the right fight for a head coach.



Kilani Sitake was a good, but not great, hire. He may yet prove to be a good coach.

we have quotes from 2 candidates including coach N from Navy that they didn't feel like they were seriously considered. That is the point of my post.

SpiffCoug wrote:

I blame you.

Blaming Mars might be the single, truthiest, comment on Cougar Corner in the history of the site.

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