The Coaching & Recruiting Thing

So where is this trend all going to end? First we have high schools who have pretty much eliminated the need for a senior year (except for playing sports). Most kids have enough credits to graduate after their junior year (and many do), so their senior year becomes a big party, sleep until 11a.m, go to school for one class, go to basketball practice, go home, hang out with the guys.



Then, football recruits begin graduating early so they can make spring football camp. What's next...foregoing their entire senior year, so they can play college football even earlier (enrolling in the fall of what would have been their senior year)?



And then this coaching thing, my goodness, this is getting ridiculous. Coaches hopping around like kangaroos, from one school to the next. Here's what college administrators need to do, hire a coach with a five year contract, pay the coach, say $200,000 a year, you know, enough to pay expenses. If he leaves early, he gets nothing more, if he stays the full five years, he gets a big lump sum of several million dollars. Anyway, college sports is feeling more and more like a Hollywood soap opera.

Or write in a massive penalty for not honoring the signed contract.

I heard kifflin has to pay $800,000 for leaving after one year. Not sure if USC will pay it for him.

Both of these schools have near $100M athletic budgets, so $800k is a drop in the bucket for Kiffin and each school. If you want a penalty clause, make it more like equal to 2 years salary.

ProV1 wrote:
Or write in a massive penalty for not honoring the signed contract.

How about forcing them to coach at NMSU for two years....or maybe North Dakota State?

BoiseBYU wrote:

Or write in a massive penalty for not honoring the signed contract.

How about forcing them to coach at NMSU for two years....or maybe North Dakota State?

Or Ewetah, eeeewwww. :munch:

bball wrote:
So where is this trend all going to end? First we have high schools who have pretty much eliminated the need for a senior year (except for playing sports). Most kids have enough credits to graduate after their junior year (and many do), so their senior year becomes a big party, sleep until 11a.m, go to school for one class, go to basketball practice, go home, hang out with the guys.



Then, football recruits begin graduating early so they can make spring football camp. What's next...foregoing their entire senior year, so they can play college football even earlier (enrolling in the fall of what would have been their senior year)?



And then this coaching thing, my goodness, this is getting ridiculous. Coaches hopping around like kangaroos, from one school to the next. Here's what college administrators need to do, hire a coach with a five year contract, pay the coach, say $200,000 a year, you know, enough to pay expenses. If he leaves early, he gets nothing more, if he stays the full five years, he gets a big lump sum of several million dollars. Anyway, college sports is feeling more and more like a Hollywood soap opera.

I've never had any problem with kids who want to graduate from High School 6 months early. High School "education" is more or less a joke as far as I've seen. Unless a kid's taking AP, IB, or some other college-related courses, the senior year is basically spent waiting for the slow kids to catch up to the ridiculously low requirements for graduation. Kids that want to graduate from high school when they're 12 because their parents have been cracking the whip on them since they were 2 miss a lot of the social development that happens during the teen years.



Coaching on the other hand is out of hand in my view. Hopefully the market will take care of that a little, for example I would bet that Tennessee's next coach has a much bigger buyout clause in it. On the other hand I can see the situation getting worse. As school's and AD's feel more and more pressure to win conference championships and go to BCS bowl games it could lead to even more coaches getting fired after going 5-7 each of the coaches' first two years. The way I think you could get around a lot of these problems though by making coaches sit out a year when they change schools (just like players have to do) and/or taking 3-10 scholarships away from a school for a year following a coach's firing.



Just a couple of ideas.

BoiseBYU wrote:

Or write in a massive penalty for not honoring the signed contract.

How about forcing them to coach at NMSU for two years....or maybe North Dakota State?

or USC right after Pete Carroll takes off for Seattle but leaves his stratospheric expectations in LA!

I think the main thing they should do is say that coaches under contract can not be hired until all of the other bowls are over. Then you don't end up with half the teams going to bowl games without their head coaches. If a university wants to get a jump on hiring a new coach before the bowls are over they can go after the coaches that are retired or out of work. That also penalizes schools for being so quick to fire coaches.

Wickchad84087 wrote:
I think the main thing they should do is say that coaches under contract can not be hired until all of the other bowls are over. Then you don't end up with half the teams going to bowl games without their head coaches. If a university wants to get a jump on hiring a new coach before the bowls are over they can go after the coaches that are retired or out of work. That also penalizes schools for being so quick to fire coaches.

The NFL put a moratorium on hiring new coaches for the 3 weeks leading up to the Super Bowl so it does not distract from their premier event. Smart move. The NFL gets it. The NCAA ought to do the same in football and hoops. Of course, the Carroll and Kiffin switches happened after the BCS Champ game, so they do not fall under that cloud. The Notre Dame hiring does. But I like the idea. No coaching changes from the point the SEC title game ends until the BCS Champ game ends.



And if a coach jumps ship, he can not contact any recruits he signed for his former team. Off limits.

My inference about high school was to increase the graduation requirements, make the kids go to school through their senior year...or...get rid of that 12th year altogether. And if a kid can graduate in December and go to college in January, then he can also graduate in May, and go to college in August, skipping his senior year altogether. Kids can, and do, graduate as juniors, so why couldn't they play college sports a year early?



Boy, I like your ideas on coaches. I really like the idea of when a coach leaves before his contract is up, he has to sit out a year. If the college fires him?...he gets his full contract paid anyway.

If you're a school who doesn't want coaches to leave before their contract expires then don't include buy-out clauses in the contract. Or make the rate of the buy-out much higher.