"Open competition" for Starting QB

Kalani said today it is an "open competition" between Hoge, Critchlow, and Wilstead for the starting spot at this point.



That's how low this coaching staff has sunk. They are contemplating pulling the redshirt off of Wilstead at 2-8 for the last 3 games of a dump-fire season...

snoscythe wrote:

Kalani said today it is an "open competition" between Hoge, Critchlow, and Wilstead for the starting spot at this point.



That's how low this coaching staff has sunk. They are contemplating pulling the redshirt off of Wilstead at 2-8 for the last 3 games of a dump-fire season...

Which actually isn't a bad idea if he's going to be our best option for QB next September. Get him some live snaps now, and still have three full seasons ahead of him

You think that limiting someone's options for this season will help? Anyone who wants to earn it can ... that would be a good thing, at least in my mind.

The Cougars have been practicing since August and the coaches don't know who their best QB is yet?

The fact that the coaches would even contemplate burning Wilstead's redshirt this late in the season (3 games left) when no bowl game is a certainty, and Hoge and Critchlow each hasn't seen much playing time, shows how much the coaches are feeling the heat about their jobs.

As long as Wilstead goes in to this understanding he is losing a year, a year in which he could save and start the whole year and put up big numbers. If he's willing to sacrifice 25% of his career than so be it.

The problem is, none of these guys are going to make a difference. The receivers are still the same, the RB's are still the same, the defense is still the same, the coaches are still the same. Burning Wilstead's redshirt would be nothing more than a waste of time and it might even get him injured.

frdbtr wrote:

The problem is, none of these guys are going to make a difference. The receivers are still the same, the RB's are still the same, the defense is still the same, the coaches are still the same. Burning Wilstead's redshirt would be nothing more than a waste of time and it might even get him injured.

Then again, maybe it helps keep him from transferring to a better team!

snoscythe wrote:

That's how low this coaching staff has sunk. They are contemplating pulling the redshirt off of Wilstead at 2-8 for the last 3 games of a dump-fire season...

Genuinely floored by the "open competition" comments that Kalani made. Wilstead should not even SNIFF the field. Funny that Kalani is suddenly pointing fingers in all directions now that his seat is getting a little hotter. He even poked fun of the sacred fans (remember when Bronco was crucified for suggesting that the fans don't really know much) stating sarcastically that he could ask a fan if he needed advice.



Kalani, your laid back, try to be friends to everyone, don't require discipline ways are catching up to you my friend! I'm still hoping you turn this turd around and drive it into the sunset, but I'm losing faith!

hawkwing wrote:

As long as Wilstead goes in to this understanding he is losing a year, a year in which he could save and start the whole year and put up big numbers. If he's willing to sacrifice 25% of his career than so be it.

I don't know how many people had an actual "25% of their career" their freshman year. I can't think of a single person who started in 100% of their freshman year games.

ABYUFAN wrote:

As long as Wilstead goes in to this understanding he is losing a year, a year in which he could save and start the whole year and put up big numbers. If he's willing to sacrifice 25% of his career than so be it.

I don't know how many people had an actual "25% of their career" their freshman year. I can't think of a single person who started in 100% of their freshman year games.

My bigger concern would be that Wilstead has not been terribly involved with the playbook this season as he's been running the scout team. That's the year he'll lose -- a year of involvement with the actual offensive philosophy of this offense.



Then again, if he beats out Critchlow and Hoge with that limited exposure.....

Does Holmoe not see this? Week in and week out I'm continually flabbergasted by the ineptitude of BYU football.

Gunk wrote:

Does Holmoe not see this? Week in and week out I'm continually flabbergasted by the ineptitude of BYU football.

He sees it. He is just choosing to remain conspicuously silent through it all. I remember back in 12 when the offense sucked and he tweeted that he was aware and changes would be made. Well, this year, he is saying nothing.

frdbtr wrote:

Does Holmoe not see this? Week in and week out I'm continually flabbergasted by the ineptitude of BYU football.

He sees it. He is just choosing to remain conspicuously silent through it all. I remember back in 12 when the offense sucked and he tweeted that he was aware and changes would be made. Well, this year, he is saying nothing.

Because Holmoe hired Detmer and guaranteed him 4 years pay.

Mars wrote:

Gunk wrote:

Does Holmoe not see this? Week in and week out I'm continually flabbergasted by the ineptitude of BYU football.

He sees it. He is just choosing to remain conspicuously silent through it all. I remember back in 12 when the offense sucked and he tweeted that he was aware and changes would be made. Well, this year, he is saying nothing.

Because Holmoe hired Detmer and guaranteed him 4 years pay.

I don't see this as a Detmer problem. I see it as a Kalani problem. Kalani is the one that has no idea what he is doing. I don't remove blame from detmer but you might have noticed that the offense has looked better since Kalani has made the statement that they are "going to go down swinging". It hasn't show in points but has shown in yards. I think that Cahoon is a huge part of the problem and if our receivers were being coached better, plays that aren't being made to keep the offense on the field would be being made. If the coaching staff were fired at the end of the year, I would not be disappointed to see Detmer retained as Ocoordinator as long as the Head coach knew how to create a winning organization and the position coaches were the type that were going to coach toughness into the team both on offense and defense.



I still think a major problem with this years team is the defense. I don't look at the points allowed, yes the defense held Fresno to 20 points which on the surface seems to be a good defensive effort but in the long run, the defense did just enough for BYU to lose the game. Just think if they had held Fresno to a 3 and out after BYU scored the TD to tie the game at 13. BYU would have kept momentum but after that 88 yard 14 play drive that they gave up to put BYU back down by 7 (the very next Fresno drive), combined with Tanner going out for the year, the wind completely went out of BYU's sails. We need a coaching house cleaning starting with the head coach. The donors that wanted this need to buy out the coaching contracts and take their medicine and then let BYU hire a real coaching staff.

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

snoscythe wrote:

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

Hiding who the starting QB is a gimmick and won't work. If you have to resort to that against UNLV, you have already lost the game. I would be shocked if BYU wins this game and may not beat UMASS as our last home game. We won't win against Hawaii, this will be a 2 win year, maybe 3 if we are lucky.

snoscythe wrote:

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

When you as a coach think there is a competitive advantage to be had against UNLV by hiding who among our remaining QBs, with our current receivers, will be running the existing offense, well, we are in deep deeeeeep trouble.

snoscythe wrote:

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

Did he say who that QB is?

byufan4ever wrote:

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

Did he say who that QB is?

Is anyone kidding, it is going to be Hoge. Critchlow and Wilstead just don't know the offense well enough. They are going to tape up Hoge's ankle and he is going to give it a go.

byufan4ever wrote:

Ed Lamb said today that there is no open competition for QB and they have known from Saturday night who the guy at QB was going to be. Kalani is trying to put the next opponent at a disadvantage.



Makes you feel a bit better about the QB situation.....



.... until you realize BYU's head coach just lied to the media to gain a competitive advantage against UNLV.

Did he say who that QB is?

No. The only hint he gave is that it's definitely not Koy Detmer, Jr.



When someone asked what happened to Koy he it would be unfair to Koy to compare him to other QBs (ouch), but that he doesn't give us the best chance to win. Koy and a converted safety are running the scout team from here on out.