So who wins when the worst offense in the NCAA meets the worst Defense

So far, the worst defense wins. Plus our defense is classically not getting this bad team off the field. So irritating.

Is Detmer going to keep watching this pathetic offense and then bring in a replacement QB for the last drive of the game when BYU is out of it? The offense is getting worse and worse every week.

Who wins? UTah, taking all our quality decommits.

Our defense has sucked all year and now we see that they are quitting. BYU may not win another game this year.

I've been trying to give the coaching staff the benefit of the doubt--but at some point these guys have to be held accountable. This is unwatchable.

I knew we were not that good three games in. My error is in not realizing HOW bad we are. That failure has led to repeated false expectations. False expectations lead more to frustration than anything. I think we might be the worst FBS team. I want this team to do well. I love BYU. But man our FB team is just not getting it done.

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I think we need to clean this coaching staff house and start over after this year. This team has way more talent than ECU.

This is a complete program failure. This season is the offenses fault, it is the defenses fault, it is the special teams fault. The coaches have failed the players at every level. This coaching staff is a disaster. We need to clean house and start over.

Holmoe has failed and continues to fail. We are getting worse.

Gunk wrote:

Holmoe has failed and continues to fail. We are getting worse.

In my book Holmoe hasn't failed by hiring Sitake and letting Sitake bring in a staff he wants. He fails if he does nothing to hold the staff accountable.

I wonder how many of those boosters and former players who were all butt hurt because Bronco wasn't personable enough for them would take him back now if the opportunity was there? Kalani has completely destroyed a winning program and it took him exactly 1 year to do it. I love BYU football, I wait all year for it. I don't really keep track of any other sport anymore since the ownership of the Phoenix suns has destroyed that franchise too. Basically, I have no team that is worth watching anymore. This needs fixed and it needs fixed now. I would be in favor of firing Kalani right now and making Lamb the interim head coach. I don't even think he deserves the rest of the year.

Cougs_Rule wrote:

Who wins? UTah, taking all our quality decommits.

They might switch back after our face plant today.

frdbtr wrote:

I wonder how many of those boosters and former players who were all butt hurt because Bronco wasn't personable enough for them would take him back now if the opportunity was there? Kalani has completely destroyed a winning program and it took him exactly 1 year to do it. I love BYU football, I wait all year for it. I don't really keep track of any other sport anymore since the ownership of the Phoenix suns has destroyed that franchise too. Basically, I have no team that is worth watching anymore. This needs fixed and it needs fixed now. I would be in favor of firing Kalani right now and making Lamb the interim head coach. I don't even think he deserves the rest of the year.

I thought about Lamb--since everyone seemed to think he was the vet brought in to guide these young, inexperienced coaches for a couple years before moving on to his own HC job--but I've not been impressed with the special teams play either.



I think Detmer is going to have to take the biggest blame here--being hired after only having HS coaching experience and then putting such a crap product on the field after 1 3/4 season. But it might also cost Sitake his job due to what turned out to be such a poor decision. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt but when you get a HC job and hire a bunch of your buddies that don't have much in the experience department, and then put up a season like this, you can't complain about being shown the door.

Fido wrote:

I wonder how many of those boosters and former players who were all butt hurt because Bronco wasn't personable enough for them would take him back now if the opportunity was there? Kalani has completely destroyed a winning program and it took him exactly 1 year to do it. I love BYU football, I wait all year for it. I don't really keep track of any other sport anymore since the ownership of the Phoenix suns has destroyed that franchise too. Basically, I have no team that is worth watching anymore. This needs fixed and it needs fixed now. I would be in favor of firing Kalani right now and making Lamb the interim head coach. I don't even think he deserves the rest of the year.

I thought about Lamb--since everyone seemed to think he was the vet brought in to guide these young, inexperienced coaches for a couple years before moving on to his own HC job--but I've not been impressed with the special teams play either.



I think Detmer is going to have to take the biggest blame here--being hired after only having HS coaching experience and then putting such a crap product on the field after 1 3/4 season. But it might also cost Sitake his job due to what turned out to be such a poor decision. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt but when you get a HC job and hire a bunch of your buddies that don't have much in the experience department, and then put up a season like this, you can't complain about being shown the door.

Lamb would be interim because you have to have an interim. If he were to somehow right the ship (he was great at SUU), then IMO even though he isn't a card carrying Mormon, he should be given a shot at HC. Yes special teams hasn't been great but IMO, that is because of the complete program failure that starts with the head coach.

frdbtr wrote:

Lamb would be interim because you have to have an interim. If he were to somehow right the ship (he was great at SUU), then IMO even though he isn't a card carrying Mormon, he should be given a shot at HC. Yes special teams hasn't been great but IMO, that is because of the complete program failure that starts with the head coach.

But Lamb as the staff mentor is also part responsible for this Titanic of a season. I don't know that you reward that with a promotion--even in the interim.

I doubt Coach Lamb was having such lax standards when he was HC. Discipline and execution can outplay slightly to modestly superior talent.

I'm not making an argument to get rid of Kalani or promoting Ed, but the HC sets the culture as well as accountability.

Kalani will be brought down to the dust and brink of forced resignation before he cuts his loyalty ties with coaches who are failing him. Then and only then will he start to make serious changes. TH will have to at it's either them or you, Kalani.

Kalani has a very tough learning curve ahead of him. Hopefully he figures out that LaVel was successful bc he often had smart and/or mean SOBs for assistant coaches.

frdbtr wrote:

I don't really keep track of any other sport anymore since the ownership of the Phoenix suns has destroyed that franchise too. Basically, I have no team that is worth watching anymore. This needs fixed and it needs fixed now.

Maybe you should start watching the Suns again. Their awfulness exceeds BYU's right now. It might make you feel better about BYU. It's worked for me.

Tom Holmoe as interim HC.

Before you start firing people, have a plan in place is all I’m saying. Because it ALWAYS can get worse. You might not think so right now, but bank on it, it can always get worse if you don’t do this right.