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Anae > Detmer

by Gunk · 9/3/2017

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Gunk
There, I said it.
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frdbtr
I'm not going to go that far yet, but I am starting to wonder. Anae only had 1 year in all the years he was the Ocoordinator where his offense averaged less than 30pts per game. I still think that BYU needs a real offensive line coach and a real receivers coach and the offense would be fine. The problem is, I don't know where we are going to get either at this stage of the season.
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TulaneVandyRiceCoug
This game was painful to watch. I think that there is a lot of ball left to play this season, but wow, my expectations are really lowered.



I was think BYU had a shot against LSU. But this wasn't even close. The offense is just bad, and LSU made it look awful. Trying to think of some silver lining here. I'm not ready to make the Anae comparison, but I do think for this game Anae's offense would have done better.
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frdbtr
TulaneVandyRiceCoug wrote:

This game was painful to watch. I think that there is a lot of ball left to play this season, but wow, my expectations are really lowered.



I was think BYU had a shot against LSU. But this wasn't even close. The offense is just bad, and LSU made it look awful. Trying to think of some silver lining here. I'm not ready to make the Anae comparison, but I do think for this game Anae's offense would have done better.


And Bronco's defense would have done better too.
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Gunk
This coaching is staff isn't getting it done. Hiring a bunch of BYU good 'ol boys isn't panning out.



I'm not putting much effort/emotion into this season.



We got 1 rushing yard. One!



Total offense, 97 yards. I'm sorry, I'd take Anae back in a heart beat.
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Guest
This is the most obvious post ever.
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Jarhead
Agree that our offense would have been better last year and in the first 2 games this year under the previous coaching staff. If the problem is the coaches under Detmer than they better take swift action and fix/replace them. We have seen 0 improvements in any of the offensive position groups besides tight end.
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Mars
Detmer may have been a good QB Coach. He's in over his head. By about 1000 leagues.
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SpiffCoug
Mars wrote:

Detmer may have been a good QB Coach. He's in over his head. By about 1000 leagues.


You mean it's a big jump from the lowest division of high school football in a state to an FBS team?!
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KingCoug
Anae > Detmer may be true but it doesn't mean I want Anae (or Bronco for that matter) back.
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BroncoBot
KingCoug wrote:

Anae > Detmer may be true but it doesn't mean I want Anae (or Bronco for that matter) back.


Interesting. The past is the past and I like our current staff. Who would you take?

Saban

Miles

Whitt

Chow



Would you really stick with the current staff if you had the choice between the two staffs and knew that Anae and Bronco would give you better results? Why? Cause you hate Bronco and Anae? I'll take whoever gives me results whether I like or dislike their personality as long as they really trying to be true to BYU's mission. I think this staff is taking a LOT of unnecessary flack after a TOUGH LSU game. It is what it is. A huge talent gap and BYU came out and underperformed for 4 quarters. Gonna happen from time to time.
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KingCoug wrote:

Anae > Detmer may be true but it doesn't mean I want Anae (or Bronco for that matter) back.


I would take Bronco back in a second if he was available. Bronco's team would not have looked that bad against LSU and I would have hope that we had a chance against the utes with Bronco still the head coach. He was on a losing streak but it was just a matter of time before it was broken. The situation we are in right now, I don't feel like we will ever beat the utes again. Not with this soft offensive team. We will never compete competitively with a physical defense playing this marshmallow offense.
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Fido
That Norm Chow was awesome....we should get him back! /s
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frdbtr
Fido wrote:

That Norm Chow was awesome....we should get him back! /s


Yup he definitely turned Hawaii into a powerhouse as a HC.
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Guest
Fido wrote:

That Norm Chow was awesome....we should get him back! /s


Is it possible that Norm Chow would be willing to take work as an offensive coordinator? Obviously he wasn't good as a HC, but maybe as an OC.
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KingCoug
BroncoBot wrote:


Anae > Detmer may be true but it doesn't mean I want Anae (or Bronco for that matter) back.


Interesting. The past is the past and I like our current staff. Who would you take?

Saban

Miles

Whitt

Chow



Would you really stick with the current staff if you had the choice between the two staffs and knew that Anae and Bronco would give you better results? Why? Cause you hate Bronco and Anae? I'll take whoever gives me results whether I like or dislike their personality as long as they really trying to be true to BYU's mission. I think this staff is taking a LOT of unnecessary flack after a TOUGH LSU game. It is what it is. A huge talent gap and BYU came out and underperformed for 4 quarters. Gonna happen from time to time.


I was as disgusted with the LSU game as anyone but it's still a little early to be wishing Bronco and Anae could come back. And I couldn't care less about Bronco's personality. I just felt he had pletued and wasn't as hungry as he once was. You can look at the 11 seasons he had at BYU and the 2006 team was the best. It increasingly became a case of diminishing returns, especially in the later years. And then there's the 5 straight losses to Utah. I don't care what anyone says. That alone is worthy of being fired. I'll stick with what we got for now. And if it doesn't work out it's up to Tom Holmoe to find someone who can get the job done.
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Mars
When you learn the person you are dating is a bad fit, you break up with them. If the next person you date is also a bad fit, you break up with them too and move on, you don't just go back to a past failed relationship. Bronco and Anae made good partners, but they weren't marriage material. No need for the Cougars to settle. There are other fish in the sea for BYU.
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BroncoBot
Mars wrote:

When you learn the person you are dating is a bad fit, you break up with them. If the next person you date is also a bad fit, you break up with them too and move on, you don't just go back to a past failed relationship. Bronco and Anae made good partners, but they weren't marriage material. No need for the Cougars to settle. There are other fish in the sea for BYU.


Examples, please.
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Fido
Fido wrote:

That Norm Chow was awesome....we should get him back! /s


Sorry--the /s meant "end sarcasm". I don't really want Norm Chow back.
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Cougarfan87
Didn't Bronco/Anae get blown out by Michigan in similar fashion? Seriously, have some patience folks. I am more concerned with Mangum not progressing than I am with the coaching. To quote the famous Bear Bryant, "It's the Jimmy's and Joe's, not the X's and O's that matters." Of course that is an oversimplifaction, and coaching does matter, but Mangum holds on to the ball too long, which means receivers are then covered that were open.
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