BYU receivers still dropping balls.

Hopefully they can get this cleaned up before LSU. This could cost BYU a great season if it doesn't.



"We had a few drops that could have been big plays for us. We talked to the receivers, the tight ends, the backs, they’re all involved in that, it’s not just the receivers. And so you let them know that there are plays left out on the field. And we could have been really good on Saturday had we made some of those plays. Things like a dropped ball here or there win or lose a game when you’re playing really good teams." Ty Detmer



http://byucougars.com/m-football/fall-camp-builds-first-scrimmage

I wouldn't be wringing hands just yet. That's what fall camp is for--fixing stuff like this.

Ya, but they are coming off a season where they dropped a lot of balls. So, seeing them drop passes in practice has to be concerning. Maybe our receivers just have bad hands.

Cameron Jensen mentioned on Criddle's radio show yesterday in a phone interview (somewhat odd, since he's normally in-studio co-hosting) that if there's one aspect of the team that he's been disappointed with so far in his observations at practice it's the receivers. He said they haven't made much progress since last year.

Not good news.

And today Tysom Whiting the social media guy on the show said that the receivers had shown a lot of progress since the start of fall camp.

I'm still hoping. The way Detmer is talking, it sounds like they are trying to address the issues. This team has a ton of potential with the talent they have in Tanner, but that talent will be wasted if guys are letting balls bounce off their facemasks like Moroni LP did in the bowl game last year with his pristine white uniform at the end of the game. It is going to take some physical receiver play to beat utah and that is why BYU has struggled with the utes for the last 10 years. The last time we beat them, we had guys like Pitta and George and some receivers that actually looked like they wanted the ball more than the defense and it still took over time. The marshmallows we have had the last few years don't have a chance. The only reason we had a chance last year was because of guys like Williams and THill and it wasn't enough.

frdbtr wrote:
I'm still hoping. The way Detmer is talking, it sounds like they are trying to address the issues. This team has a ton of potential with the talent they have in Tanner, but that talent will be wasted if guys are letting balls bounce off their facemasks like Moroni LP did in the bowl game last year with his pristine white uniform at the end of the game. It is going to take some physical receiver play to beat utah and that is why BYU has struggled with the utes for the last 10 years. The last time we beat them, we had guys like Pitta and George and some receivers that actually looked like they wanted the ball more than the defense and it still took over time. The marshmallows we have had the last few years don't have a chance. The only reason we had a chance last year was because of guys like Williams and THill and it wasn't enough.

Don't forget all the turnovers we caused.



Last year should have been blowout if our receivers were any good.

Gunk wrote:

I'm still hoping. The way Detmer is talking, it sounds like they are trying to address the issues. This team has a ton of potential with the talent they have in Tanner, but that talent will be wasted if guys are letting balls bounce off their facemasks like Moroni LP did in the bowl game last year with his pristine white uniform at the end of the game. It is going to take some physical receiver play to beat utah and that is why BYU has struggled with the utes for the last 10 years. The last time we beat them, we had guys like Pitta and George and some receivers that actually looked like they wanted the ball more than the defense and it still took over time. The marshmallows we have had the last few years don't have a chance. The only reason we had a chance last year was because of guys like Williams and THill and it wasn't enough.

Don't forget all the turnovers we caused.



Last year should have been blowout if our receivers were any good.

I 100% agree. If we had had the 15 receivers in 16, we beat Utah easily and probably only have a 1 loss season, if not go undefeated. If we only had 1 guy as physical as Austin collie was in our receiver corps last year, we win games that we would have lost. If we had had 2 guys like K.O. and McGuire from the 96 team, we go undefeated last year. watching the football game replays on BYUtvsports.com it is unbelievable to me how soft our guys were last year. Very frustrating.



Edit: reading between the lines in the interviews from fall camp has me believing that the receivers are not going to have improved a lot this year. The DB's are saying that they are frustrating the receivers with bump coverage which to me is not a good sign, it means the receivers get frustrated with physical play. The receivers should be initiating the physical play not getting frustrated by it. I hope I am wrong.

frdbtr wrote:

frdbtr wrote:
I'm still hoping. The way Detmer is talking, it sounds like they are trying to address the issues. This team has a ton of potential with the talent they have in Tanner, but that talent will be wasted if guys are letting balls bounce off their facemasks like Moroni LP did in the bowl game last year with his pristine white uniform at the end of the game. It is going to take some physical receiver play to beat utah and that is why BYU has struggled with the utes for the last 10 years. The last time we beat them, we had guys like Pitta and George and some receivers that actually looked like they wanted the ball more than the defense and it still took over time. The marshmallows we have had the last few years don't have a chance. The only reason we had a chance last year was because of guys like Williams and THill and it wasn't enough.

Don't forget all the turnovers we caused.



Last year should have been blowout if our receivers were any good.

I 100% agree. If we had had the 15 receivers in 16, we beat Utah easily and probably only have a 1 loss season, if not go undefeated. If we only had 1 guy as physical as Austin collie was in our receiver corps last year, we win games that we would have lost. If we had had 2 guys like K.O. and McGuire from the 96 team, we go undefeated last year. watching the football game replays on BYUtvsports.com it is unbelievable to me how soft our guys were last year. Very frustrating.



Edit: reading between the lines in the interviews from fall camp has me believing that the receivers are not going to have improved a lot this year. The DB's are saying that they are frustrating the receivers with bump coverage which to me is not a good sign, it means the receivers get frustrated with physical play. The receivers should be initiating the physical play not getting frustrated by it. I hope I am wrong.

BYU football and T. Hill's injury in 2015 was very unfortunate. Sure, Mangum stepped in and did, for the most part, a stellar job in getting the Ws that BYU needed that year. The receivers he had definitely helped him out. But I think Hill, with the receivers on that team, could have got a lot of NFL attention. Hill returned in 2016 to some of the worst receiver play I can remember at BYU. Lots of drops, soft receivers, giving up on routes, etc.

BroncoBot wrote:

Gunk wrote:

I'm still hoping. The way Detmer is talking, it sounds like they are trying to address the issues. This team has a ton of potential with the talent they have in Tanner, but that talent will be wasted if guys are letting balls bounce off their facemasks like Moroni LP did in the bowl game last year with his pristine white uniform at the end of the game. It is going to take some physical receiver play to beat utah and that is why BYU has struggled with the utes for the last 10 years. The last time we beat them, we had guys like Pitta and George and some receivers that actually looked like they wanted the ball more than the defense and it still took over time. The marshmallows we have had the last few years don't have a chance. The only reason we had a chance last year was because of guys like Williams and THill and it wasn't enough.

Don't forget all the turnovers we caused.



Last year should have been blowout if our receivers were any good.

I 100% agree. If we had had the 15 receivers in 16, we beat Utah easily and probably only have a 1 loss season, if not go undefeated. If we only had 1 guy as physical as Austin collie was in our receiver corps last year, we win games that we would have lost. If we had had 2 guys like K.O. and McGuire from the 96 team, we go undefeated last year. watching the football game replays on BYUtvsports.com it is unbelievable to me how soft our guys were last year. Very frustrating.



Edit: reading between the lines in the interviews from fall camp has me believing that the receivers are not going to have improved a lot this year. The DB's are saying that they are frustrating the receivers with bump coverage which to me is not a good sign, it means the receivers get frustrated with physical play. The receivers should be initiating the physical play not getting frustrated by it. I hope I am wrong.

BYU football and T. Hill's injury in 2015 was very unfortunate. Sure, Mangum stepped in and did, for the most part, a stellar job in getting the Ws that BYU needed that year. The receivers he had definitely helped him out. But I think Hill, with the receivers on that team, could have got a lot of NFL attention. Hill returned in 2016 to some of the worst receiver play I can remember at BYU. Lots of drops, soft receivers, giving up on routes, etc.

yep, 15 could have been a special year. It was obvious to me from the Nebraska game that Hill was dialed in to those guys. Combined with his running ability, we may have even won the Michigan game.

I dunno. Those 2015 receivers got their tails handed to them against the physical DBs of Michigan. They couldn't get off the bump to save their souls.

They are now seeing it every day in practice. Can't say if it is as tough as what we saw at Michigan.

CrimsonCoug wrote:
I dunno. Those 2015 receivers got their tails handed to them against the physical DBs of Michigan. They couldn't get off the bump to save their souls.

With a healthy taysom hill, his legs alone would have softened up that coverage. He would have changed Michigan's entire game plan.

Michigan knew Tanner wasn't running.



With Hill, they would have had to keep a DB close to the line.



Would have been a completely different game. I still think we would have lost though.

I don't think we'd have beat Michigan that game with Steve Young and Jerry Rice.

BYU receivers have struggled against physical, aggressive DBs for as long as I've been a fan. Luckily there are only a handful of teams that have athletic enough secondaries to do this.

hawkwing wrote:
BYU receivers have struggled against physical, aggressive DBs for as long as I've been a fan. Luckily there are only a handful of teams that have athletic enough secondaries to do this.

unfortunately, BYU plays a few of them this year.

BroncoBot wrote:

BYU receivers have struggled against physical, aggressive DBs for as long as I've been a fan. Luckily there are only a handful of teams that have athletic enough secondaries to do this.

unfortunately, BYU plays a few of them this year.

Including the utes.

"Receivers still dropping balls", well you had better get used to it as long as Cahoon is the receivers coach seeing dropped balls will be the norm. ;)