CENTCOM to stop lying about troop numbers in Iraq and Syria . . .

... don't expect the truth though. They won't be giving any numbers at all.



And some of you guys thought Trump would drain the swamp.

I'm not a Trump guy. I didn't vote for him. But you seem to be under this mistaken impression that Trump was going to pull out of the Middle East.

No. I knew he never would. But he did run on draining the swamp in Washington. Everyone seems fine with the fact that he's leaving the swamp in Arlington, Virginia.

jvquarterback wrote:
... don't expect the truth though. They won't be giving any numbers at all.



And some of you guys thought Trump would drain the swamp.

Trump repeatedly stated during his campaign that he would destroy ISIS if elected. After his inauguration, Trump signed a memo directing the Pentagon to come up with a plan to defeat ISIS. They were directed to submit their plan in 30 days. That plan is now being implemented.



Exactly how does destroying murderous terrorists interfere with "draining the swamp" in Washington DC? I guess you would have to define what "draining the swamp" means to you.

He could start by getting rid of whoever told him to go back on his word and bomb Assaud without any proof in what was most likely a false flag situation.

jvquarterback wrote:

And some of you guys thought Trump would drain the swamp.

You have still not defined what "draining the swamp" means to you - and how engaging in a military action has anything at all with the Washington DC swamp.

jvquarterback wrote:
He could start by getting rid of whoever told him to go back on his word and bomb Assaud without any proof in what was most likely a false flag situation.

I would submit the "proof" was discussed in detail during high level during the 63 hours it took to approve the surgical, precision Tomahawk attack (according to NYT). Hopefully your aware that Trump discussed the evidence, or "proof" during his National Security Council meeting, and then with Jordan's King Abdullah. King Abdullah knows what's going on in Syria. Trump then had a meeting with Def. Sec. Mattis, Sec. of State Tillerson, and Nat. Security Advisor McMaster.



There are pictures of chemical containers at the site of the Tomahawk missile strike in Syria. The same chemical containers the Russians use to hold their chemical weapons - nerve agent.



National Security Advisor McMaster said - "Our intelligence community in cooperation with our friends and partners and allies around the world collaborated to determine with a very high degree of confidence precisely where the location originated. And then, of course, the sorts of chemicals that were used in the attack, that’s – that confidence level has just continued to grow in the hours and days since the attack ..."



Of note, the Pentagon tracked the flight of the plane that dropped the nerve agent bombs. That's how they knew which airbase to strike. They tracked 2 jets from the airbase, they circled around the target, and at the exact time the nerve bombs were dropped, the Syrian jet was overhead, then returned back to base - where the nerve agent was stored in Russian containers. Pure coincidence right?



Jet track map -

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-releases-flight-path-plane-syria-chemical-attack/story?id=46651125



Photo of chemical containers at Syrian airbase -

https://southfront.org/debunking-rumors-about-chemical-weapons-containers-in-syrias-shayrat-airbase/

You can believe it, or not believe it, but, US intelligence has reported they intercepted Syrian radio communications where they are discussing preparation for the Sarin nerve agent attack last week.



Here ya go -

"(CNN)The US military and intelligence community has intercepted communications featuring Syrian military and chemical experts talking about preparations for the sarin attack in Idlib last week, a senior US official tells CNN."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/12/politics/us-intelligence-syrian-chemical-weapons/

.....just waiting for jv to use "fake news" as a rebuttal.....

Can we get a chart for the times we are supposed to believe CNN and the times we are not supposed to? :D

Here ya go, from The Hill.com



"US intercepted chemical weapons communications in Syria: report:

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/328614-us-intercepted-chemical-weapons-communications-in-syria-report

And? What does that have to do with Hitler?

Not proof. Ukraine and about every other country in the Soviet bloc and Israel including many current NATO members have access to those containers. Sarin isn't uranium - you can't track it's origin.



And no I don't believe the discredited journalists at the NYT who are the same idiots who brought you yellow cake uranium.



When JFK said the Soviets were installing nuclear weapons in Cuba and when Reagan said the Soviets shot down a Korean airlines flight they both released satellite photos proving their allegations. We all know if it's true they have the photos and releasing those photos does not hurt the US. So why don't we have proof? Could it be that it was released from a drone that took off from Jordan or Syria which is one of the plausible alternatives to the propaganda being disseminated by the media at the behest of the US government?



US intelligence sources also warned the pentagon that they should fully investigate the possibility the planes in question bombed a storage facility held by Al qaeda. This clearly wasn't done in the hours leading up to the US strike.



Until I see proof I'll go with Accam's razor and remain skeptical that a man without any motive ruined his best chance to remain in power.



https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/12/trump-withholds-syria-sarin-evidence/

http://www.unz.com/article/the-nerve-agent-attack-in-khan-shaykhun-syria/



Here's an analysis of the "intelligence" report produced by the president of the United States of America in support of the bombing of a country that is no threat to our nation. See if CNN or the NYT or NPR has anything like it. You know they don't because they are only part of the propaganda machine used by the military and the government of our once great nation.

jvquarterback wrote:
http://www.unz.com/article/the-nerve-agent-attack-in-khan-shaykhun-syria/



Here's an analysis of the "intelligence" report produced by the president of the United States of America in support of the bombing of a country that is no threat to our nation. See if CNN or the NYT or NPR has anything like it. You know they don't because they are only part of the propaganda machine used by the military and the government of our once great nation.

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I'm sorry. Are you really trying to say that a retired intelligence officer, MIT professor, and the guy who broke the Iran Contra fiasco are inferior sources than Anderson Cooper and the guys at the NYT who brought you WMD?



If you want to argue any of the points in the articles be my guest.

jvquarterback wrote:

..... the bombing of a country that is no threat to our nation.

No one has ever claimed that Syria is a threat to the U.S. The internal war and policies of al-Assad are disruptive to it's neighbors, and Europe. About 5 million refugees have fled Syria to Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt. Another one million have requested asylum to Europe. The impact on Europe through increased crime (to include an increase of rape that is described as a crisis) is significant. It's estimated as many as 3.6 refugees will impact Europe by 2020.



About 6 million Syrian refugees are displaced within Syria. As a result of the chaos and war inside Syria, it's allowed ISIS to grow and impact not only the Middle East and Africa, but globally. ISIS is responsible for attacks in 29 countries. They have branches in 18+ countries.



The fact is, ISIS is having a big impact on destabilizing the Middle East, impacting out allies, impacting out interests, and fomenting jihadi terrorism globally. Syria having a direct threat to the U.S. is not even a consideration. Syria's house needs to be put in order. It's in crisis and it cannot be ignored.

jvquarterback wrote:
Not proof. Ukraine and about every other country in the Soviet bloc and Israel including many current NATO members have access to those containers.

Ahhhhhh - so NATO supplied Syria with those chemical containers.

Ddawg wrote:

Not proof. Ukraine and about every other country in the Soviet bloc and Israel including many current NATO members have access to those containers.

Ahhhhhh - so NATO supplied Syria with those chemical containers.

Much more plausible than Assaud undermining everything he had been working on for years. What's even more likely is that Qatar supplied the rebels with sarin. Qatar is on record as having funded false flag garbage like this before to defame Assaud.



As for what you wrote above - there wouldn't be a Syrian refugee crisis without Isis and qaeda. And there wouldn't be Isis and qaida without US intervention in the middle east. We need to get our own house in order, meaning getting out of the middle east, before we go around telling anyone else what to do or not to do.



These bombings and any others Trumpy wants to lead only strengthen Isis and qaeda. Whatever else you choose to buy from the propaganda salesmen that has to be the take home point. This garbage strengthens the people who really want to hurt us.

jvquarterback wrote:
I'm sorry. Are you really trying to say that a retired intelligence officer, MIT professor, and the guy who broke the Iran Contra fiasco are inferior sources than Anderson Cooper and the guys at the NYT who brought you WMD?.

I'm trying to say that you're either gullible or an idiot, and your response furthers that impression. Anderson Cooper and NYT are not the "sources" they are the ones running down and talking to the sources. I don't care where some retired person worked before or where someone teaches-- they can still be a tin-hatter.



You claimed there was "no evidence", but there is ample evidence as previous post have shown. If you want to argue about the quality or sufficiency of the evidence, that's another thing. But your overstatement was proven wrong, and now you're making yourself into even more of an idiot trying to stand by that demonstrably false statement.