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2019 BYU @ Utah State bumped from conference weekend

by Fido · 3/16/2017

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Fido
http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/03/lsu-utah-state-2019-football-schedule/



The Aggies are taking a pay game ($1.5 mill) to travel to LSU on Saturday, Oct 5. Since BYU had been scheduled to play @ Utah State on Friday, Oct 4, one can only assume that the BYU game will move. Current openings include weeks 9 (Oct 26), 10 (Nov 2), and 11 (Nov 9). I'd love to see Holmoe use conference weekend as a week 6 bye since the team opens against Utah, @ Tennessee, USC, Washington, @ Toledo.
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jvquarterback
I'd rather buy out of the game and buy two more home games.
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Fido
Not sure I follow that logic unless it is just to peacock a little superior attitude at our Aggie neighbors. The funny thing is on the Aggie board they are talking about how the Aggies should cancel the BYU game rather than reschedule--with no plan B of course.

What "purchasable" home games would you like? And how would they be better than an in-state rival game?
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jvquarterback
The home schedule in 2019 is:

Utah

USC

Washington

Boise St

Idaho St



People are going to buy tickets if we add Wagner again but I'd try to buy that away game at UMass and turn it into a home game. Add a home game with NMSU, UTEP, Tx St, or Liberty and get a 2-1 with UNLV, SJSU, Nevada, etc.



We should have 7-8 home games a year.
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ABYUFAN
jvquarterback wrote:
The home schedule in 2019 is:

Utah

USC

Washington

Boise St

Idaho St



People are going to buy tickets if we add Wagner again but I'd try to buy that away game at UMass and turn it into a home game. Add a home game with NMSU, UTEP, Tx St, or Liberty and get a 2-1 with UNLV, SJSU, Nevada, etc.



We should have 7-8 home games a year.

how many schools get 8 home games a year?
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Fido
With FCS Idaho State already on the schedule, we won't be adding FCS Wagner. :whistle:
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jvquarterback
ABYUFAN wrote:
The home schedule in 2019 is:

Utah

USC

Washington

Boise St

Idaho St



People are going to buy tickets if we add Wagner again but I'd try to buy that away game at UMass and turn it into a home game. Add a home game with NMSU, UTEP, Tx St, or Liberty and get a 2-1 with UNLV, SJSU, Nevada, etc.



We should have 7-8 home games a year.

how many schools get 8 home games a year?


This year: Arkansas, LSU if you count the BYU game, SC if you count a neutral site game 60 miles from campus just from the SEC. Every other year TAMU plays 8 home games. There are always a couple from the B1G and sometimes the PAC, Big 12 and ACC.


Fido wrote:
With FCS Idaho State already on the schedule, we won't be adding FCS Wagner. :whistle:




The point about Wagner was that the home schedule is plenty strong enough. They don't need to add any team of note.
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ABYUFAN
jvquarterback wrote:
jvquarterback wrote:
The home schedule in 2019 is:

Utah

USC

Washington

Boise St

Idaho St



People are going to buy tickets if we add Wagner again but I'd try to buy that away game at UMass and turn it into a home game. Add a home game with NMSU, UTEP, Tx St, or Liberty and get a 2-1 with UNLV, SJSU, Nevada, etc.



We should have 7-8 home games a year.

how many schools get 8 home games a year?


This year: Arkansas, LSU if you count the BYU game, SC if you count a neutral site game 60 miles from campus just from the SEC. Every other year TAMU plays 8 home games. There are always a couple from the B1G and sometimes the PAC, Big 12 and ACC.


So one in the SEC. If you count LSU's game with BYU as an LSU Home game, then you have to count BYU's game with Arizona last year as a BYU home game. Did you?



Maybe 5 teams in all of college football have 8 home games, and you thing that BYU should be good enough to have that every other year? I don't think that that is very realistic.
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frdbtr
I like the utah state game. I like playing the in state schools. I wouldn't be in favor of dropping them.
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scott715
I also like playing the instate schools but they have a responsibility to our SOS. If USU can't be a top 50 team then we should drop the game and find someone better.
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Fido
Top 50? There are plenty of teams that are outside that on the schedule (UMass, Hawaii, many of the MWC teams from this year). I think Utah State has a role in the BYU schedule. It isn't as a marquee game, and it wouldn't break my heart if it wasn't an every year game either. But the game has value.



The part that I'm looking forward to for this year's Utah State game is the number of BYU transfers that seem to end up there contributing for them. I checked the USU spring depth chart and saw these familiar names:

- Dallin Leavitt - as with last year, he is the #1 nickle back and boundary safety on the depth chart

- Quin Ficklin - #1 Center this spring--he was Koroma's primary backup as a walk-on and played some FB as well before transferring after the season. I saw unconfirmed (of course) reports that there was a school discipline issue there.

- Roman Andrus - #2 Left Tackle on the OL. He redshirted as a defensive lineman for BYU in 2012 before serving a mission. He was on the scout team in 2015, then ended up at Snow College last season playing DL, but signed with Utah State and has made the shift to OL.
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Commoner
scott715 wrote:
I also like playing the instate schools but they have a responsibility to our SOS. If USU can't be a top 50 team then we should drop the game and find someone better.


Using that logic, we shouldn't play ECU (#118), SJSU (#131), Fresno (#179), UNLV (#145), UMass (#141), and Hawaii (#104).



The reality is that our schedules cannot be put together without including teams that are ranked worse than #50.
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scott715
I agree we should not be playing those teams. TH has had some trouble in setting up the schedule in the second half of the year. ECU in the past has been a much better team than the team last year. Hawaii should be improved. UNLV is making up a game that has been pushed back from a previous year.



I still think we need better teams. Some in the MWC still won't play. We could add more AAC teams but that is a lot of travel.
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jvquarterback
ABYUFAN wrote:
ABYUFAN wrote:
The home schedule in 2019 is:

Utah

USC

Washington

Boise St

Idaho St



People are going to buy tickets if we add Wagner again but I'd try to buy that away game at UMass and turn it into a home game. Add a home game with NMSU, UTEP, Tx St, or Liberty and get a 2-1 with UNLV, SJSU, Nevada, etc.



We should have 7-8 home games a year.

how many schools get 8 home games a year?


This year: Arkansas, LSU if you count the BYU game, SC if you count a neutral site game 60 miles from campus just from the SEC. Every other year TAMU plays 8 home games. There are always a couple from the B1G and sometimes the PAC, Big 12 and ACC.


Maybe 5 teams in all of college football have 8 home games, and you thing that BYU should be good enough to have that every other year? I don't think that that is very realistic.


TAMU has a model that would be ideal for BYU. Six teams they play home and away every year. Three more rotate for home and away. And Three home games against inferior opponents.



It would cost BYU two million per year to buy three home games and they'd have 7 or 8 home games per year. Totally worth a regular top 25 ranking. That's how TAMU and the rest of the SEC do it.
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YNot
I agree that BYU needs to get an additional FBS payday home game each year. But, 8 home games is a pipe dream.



Look, the athletic department has $6-8M profit most years. We can take $1M or so of the profits from the previous year to buy the extra home game. We'd probably come out ahead, because we would have an additional game's worth of ticket sales and TV revenue and save on the travel expenses for the 6th road game. The majority of P5 schools do get 7 home games per year. This will help BYU to make up some of the P5 financial gap. And the FBS home game should be teams like Toledo, NIU, MTSU, NMSU, etc.



With independence and a national fan base, BYU wants some road games. After the second payday home game, the next step is to get an *annual* neutral-site game as part of a "Pioneer" or "Beehive" series, similar to Notre Dame's "Shamrock Series." Get ESPN to commit to show it on ABC and the ticket sales and TV revenue could be split with the opponent (or, go to NBC, FOX, and CBS).
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YNot
I would even try to get Utah St. as the FBS payday opponent. I know the Aggies will beat their chests and scream 'foul,' but Utah St. usually plays one of these games each year.



2013 - at USC

2014 - at Tennessee

2015 - at Washington

2016 - at USC

2017 - at Wisconsin

2019 - at LSU



May be a 3-for-1, where we write a check to the Aggies each year except when we play in Logan once every four years.
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Fido
USU's AD has already said if BYU won't do a H/H, they aren't signing up. It's also why USU/Utah has dropped out--Utah won't travel to Logan and would only do 1:done series with them.
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Guest
Good for USU. Stick to your guns.
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SpiffCoug
I'd rather play Utah St each year than Utah. And I'm even ok with Utah St being the end-of-year rivalry game if it can't be played during conference weekend.
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jvquarterback
YNot wrote:
I agree that BYU needs to get an additional FBS payday home game each year. But, 8 home games is a pipe dream.



Look, the athletic department has $6-8M profit most years. We can take $1M or so of the profits from the previous year to buy the extra home game. We'd probably come out ahead, because we would have an additional game's worth of ticket sales and TV revenue and save on the travel expenses for the 6th road game. The majority of P5 schools do get 7 home games per year. This will help BYU to make up some of the P5 financial gap. And the FBS home game should be teams like Toledo, NIU, MTSU, NMSU, etc.


Yes BYU should buy a minimum of two home games per year but I think three should be the goal. Ticket sales alone - even for FCS games - have to be north of $2M. Just break even and it's better than another 1:1 with SJSU. And BYU should never give up a 1 and done or a 2:1 again.
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