Former Oregon commit OL John Vaka commits to BYU

We need all the good O-Line guys we can get.

Great news. Hopefully a few more studs do the same.

Qman wrote:
We need all the good O-Line guys we can get.

that!

What's his star ranking? Glad to get another Oregon flip.

hawkwing wrote:
What's his star ranking? Glad to get another Oregon flip.

http://247sports.com/player/john-vaka-93067

3 stars, had offers from Oregon, Arizona, Cincinnati, Colorado, New Mexico, UCF, and Washington State in addition to BYU.

Fido wrote:

What's his star ranking? Glad to get another Oregon flip.

http://247sports.com/player/john-vaka-93067

3 stars, had offers from Oregon, Arizona, Cincinnati, Colorado, New Mexico, UCF, and Washington State in addition to BYU.

Too bad, I was hoping he was a 4* guy. Another so-so pickup, but at least it's not a Weber State guy this time.

Why do BYU fans disparage their own recruits before they even get an opportunity to take the field? That's something I'll never understand.



Jamaal Williams? 3 star

Tejan Koroma? 2 star

Travis Tuiloma? 2 star

Mitch Mathews? 3 star

Sione Takitaki? 3 star

Taysom Hill? 3 star



The only 4 star guys I can think of currently on the team are Tanner Mangum and Fred and Troy Warner.



Edit--forgot Jonah Trinnaman and Handsome Tanielu. Max Tooley and Skyler Southam are on missions.

I wish we had a bunch more 3* guys. 2018 looks great so far.

Remember that time we got that QB that was 4 stars and then they couldn't complete a pass and so they left...



I'll take the 3 star recruits that are out to prove a point.

Gunk wrote:
Remember that time we got that QB that was 4 stars and then they couldn't complete a pass and so they left...



I'll take the 3 star recruits that are out to prove a point.

I remember a 5* QB that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was much worse than our 2* guy so he left, but that doesn't mean I'll not hope to get another 5* QB down the line.



Ultimately it doesn't matter how many stars you come in with, it only matters how you perform once you're here, but that doesn't mean you can't hope for recruiting classes filled with 4 and 5* guys.

I don't have an issue with hoping for 4* or 5* guys. I only had an issue with labeling Vaka "another so-so pickup" (dissing John Vaka) and saying "at least it's not a Weber State guy this time" (dissing A.J. Lolohea).

Fido wrote:
I don't have an issue with hoping for 4* or 5* guys. I only had an issue with labeling Vaka "another so-so pickup" (dissing John Vaka) and saying "at least it's not a Weber State guy this time" (dissing A.J. Lolohea).

Fair point and a disservice by me to call them that.



I apologize.

The OL should be better next year. With Vaka, Ului L back from injury and Kieffer Longson.

I also feel that Shoaf should be pretty good next year too

scott715 wrote:
The OL should be better next year. With Vaka, Ului L back from injury and Kieffer Longson.

I'll believe it when I see it. This kind of statement has been happening for years and our offensive line sucks year after year ever since Grimes left.

frdbtr wrote:

The OL should be better next year. With Vaka, Ului L back from injury and Kieffer Longson.

I'll believe it when I see it. This kind of statement has been happening for years and our offensive line sucks year after year ever since Grimes left.

I think we'll have better luck now that we have an OC that has a clue and isn't making them run wind sprints on an endless loop, giving them all high ankle sprains (aka shin splints) so that we can run a gimmicky offense. I never understood why we got huge guys and tried to slim them down. Just get tight ends and make them fatter, like air Force does.



With an OC with a plan and a good one at that, they'll be great in 2-3 more years, once recruits, JC's and guys back from missions fill in.

frdbtr wrote:

The OL should be better next year. With Vaka, Ului L back from injury and Kieffer Longson.

I'll believe it when I see it. This kind of statement has been happening for years and our offensive line sucks year after year ever since Grimes left.

I think we'll have better luck now that we have an OC that has a clue and isn't making them run wind sprints on an endless loop, giving them all high ankle sprains (aka shin splints) so that we can run a gimmicky offense. I never understood why we got huge guys and tried to slim them down with hurry up garbage gameplan. Just get tight ends and make them fatter, like air Force does.



With an OC with a plan and a good one at that, they'll be great in 2-3 more years, once recruits, JC's and guys back from missions fill in.

Brayden Green wrote:

scott715 wrote:
The OL should be better next year. With Vaka, Ului L back from injury and Kieffer Longson.

I'll believe it when I see it. This kind of statement has been happening for years and our offensive line sucks year after year ever since Grimes left.

I think we'll have better luck now that we have an OC that has a clue and isn't making them run wind sprints on an endless loop, giving them all high ankle sprains (aka shin splints) so that we can run a gimmicky offense. I never understood why we got huge guys and tried to slim them down. Just get tight ends and make them fatter, like air Force does.



With an OC with a plan and a good one at that, they'll be great in 2-3 more years, once recruits, JC's and guys back from missions fill in.

Our offensive line problems weren't Anae's fault since in 2005-2008 with Anae as Ocoordinator, they performed well. After Grimes left, it has been all downhill. Every off season, we hear how the offensive line is going to be better next year and then the next year comes around and our QB is running for his life the second he catches the shotgun snap.