Big Day Today

Big12 Presidents will finish their meeting and a press conference to announce what they are doing or not doing. Dreams will be fulfilled or crushed for several schools. BYUtv will cover the press conference. I think it is 4pm MST but the time could change.



Heard the consultants are meeting again with the presidents will answers to questions from the last meeting and possibly updated information. this should help us by reiterating the strength of our program once again.

A big rumor floating around is BYU football only and UC all sports. I would be okay with that.

The Presidents meeting is already over.

I would accept BYU to the Big 12 in football only, but I hope that all sports go to the Big 12. BYU basketball deserves to be in the big 12.

My gut says no one will be invited. But my gut also says that gas station hot dogs are a legitimate breakfast option... so who knows.

ABYUFAN wrote:
My gut says no one will be invited. But my gut also says that gas station hot dogs are a legitimate breakfast option... so who knows.

The prevailing opinion in the media (including Trevor Matich) is that the Big 12 is going to do nothing.

frdbtr wrote:

My gut says no one will be invited. But my gut also says that gas station hot dogs are a legitimate breakfast option... so who knows.

The prevailing opinion in the media (including Trevor Matich) is that the Big 12 is going to do nothing.

There have once again been so many rumors floating about, especially these last couple of days going every which way. My gut says it's not going to happen for BYU now or even if they put it off for later. I honestly would be shocked beyond explanation if they were.



My nightmare is that they say no expansion now and we have to continue to hang out there. I simply want the process to be over one way or the other. The sooner we know we have to do with the status quo or join an inferior conference, it will be easier to continue on.

I see an increased level of tweets that there will be no expansion.

No expansion. Not a single team could cross the 8-vote threshold.



What's ironic is that, if they held a vote to either expand or not expand, expansion would have been unanimous. But, because of the conference bylaws, the question was instead "Do we invite BYU?" etc., etc., and no one got to 8.

There's going to be no expansion. I would be shocked if there is any. The only school that would have made sense is BYU and once the Gay community came out against us it gave the big 12 its excuse to do nothing.

I think Big12 just killed itself ... the refusal to expand will lead to the road to irrelevance.

Words can't describe how disappointed I am right now. I really wanted this to happen. To have the door shut on us again is devastating. How long can Byu survive with the gap between P5's and G5's getting wider and wider. No matter what any of us say Byu is considered a G5 by most. Doesn't matter who we play or who we beat we are on the outside looking in. Not that I want to go back to the MWC but they have more access then Byu. Big12 I hope you crumble down into nothing!

Access to what? That's my question.



An NY6 game? We've played 6 of those already this year.



Money? Still making more than the G5 teams, including the G5 team that plays in the NY6.



Name recognition? BYU's brand is stronger than any G5. Only other one close is Boise. BYU's brand is stronger than more than half of the P5 teams.



Sure, some things would be better in the B12, especially for men's and women's basketball. But Indy is really kind of fun right now.

If there's one thing I've learned through all this, it's this--Cincinnati's new mascot looks like an RSO (registered sex offender).



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BYU is fine where it's at. Back to the MWC? No way in Hell. We get enormous respect for being independent. Every game we get with a national power is as good as a NY6 bowl, for excitement and exposure on national TV. It is nonsense to lament a lack of G5 conf championship to play for.



I was confident of one thing: there was no momentum to expand without BYU, and expansion would not go forward without BYU (unless the impossible happened- aTm, Neb, FSU, Clem's).



I'm good with Indie. 8)

I hope that the Big 12 minus 2 schools beat themselves up and none of them make the CFP

Also, BYU and Holmoe are no longer saying that independence is unsustainable. That was before the boosters stepped up big time. Holmoe said that BYU was going to be OK after all, and that was about three months ago already. Yesterday, he said that "Through this process, we learned some things about ourselves..... One thing was that we are a lot stronger than we had thought we were."



Detractors like to bring up Bronco's and TH's previous statements about how BYU will fall farther and farther behind........not sustainable, etc. But, that has changed in a big way, so we as fans should not perpetuate that skepticism.



Don't worry.....Be Happy. 8) 8) 8)

Welcome to the beginning of the end for a myopic grouping of state schools that are foraging and groping for every dollar, including even more with the CCG.

This conference is the worst of the P5 conferences in football and this bullcrap, blah, blah, blah, spin is a waist of time.

Suck eggs Big12. We are done with your "come here, go away" act like you're all that and a bag of chips. You are the small potatoes of the P5 and I hope you get rightly left out of the play off again.

"We are psychologically disadvantaged" before and we still are but better to be rich and meet our diminishing state budgets and be psychologically disadvantaged than to be poorer as schools but stronger as a conference.

BOID wrote:
Also, BYU and Holmoe are no longer saying that independence is unsustainable. That was before the boosters stepped up big time. Holmoe said that BYU was going to be OK after all, and that was about three months ago already. Yesterday, he said that "Through this process, we learned some things about ourselves..... One thing was that we are a lot stronger than we had thought we were."

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